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rainbowsanddrama's picture

I found this site while looking for somewhere- anywhere- to turn. I've tried talking to friends or family, but no one seems to come close to understanding my situation. I feel horrible and guilty all the time for how I am feeling. Mostly, I just feel stuck.

5 1/2 years ago I met the most amazing man. Love of my life. We lived in different states, but we knew within a week we would be together forever. You know you just KNOW? He's perfect to this day. The most loving, kind, sweet, patient, wonderful man. Incredible husband. All my family and friends are crazy about him. Hell, everyone who meets him loves him. Great friend and great father to his 3 kids.

I knew he had young children- when we started dating they were 2, 4, and 7- but I had NO idea how hard this would be. After about a year of long distance, I moved to his state to spend more time with him, get to know his kids, and live together. I tried making my career work where he lived, but it wasn't easy, and it was always understood that I would move back to where my job was after a little while. I got to know the kids, and they are amazing. I dove in to help make his little place a home (his divorce was recent) and sort of played housewife. Huge mistake. I started resenting it pretty quickly, as three kids that age are NO joke, and I was suddenly the Mom of the house.

In this time, I realized a few things. One, I had never, ever wanted kids at ALL, and this experience confirmed what I always knew. Two, he was definitely the guy I wanted to spend my life with. Three, I would certainly have to move home if I wanted to keep my career going. He knew and respected all of this. After a hard year, I moved back to my state, where I lived for 3 years, and we flew back and forth, both working out of both places. We got married, and we were stronger than ever.

At the end of this time, his Ex started taking us to court for more child support, more this, more that, you name it. We started spending a fortune in court fees, more support, in addition to the truckload of alimony she was getting, and the debt we still had from the wedding and a few emergencies (as we were planning on the money we paid her to go DOWN, not up!) Suddenly, even though we were both working our butts off, we couldn't afford two places any longer, and had to make the decision to move to one state and regroup, in order to be financially responsible.

This was about 6 months ago. It was always hard until then. He could only be with me about every other weekend. Me coming to him meant giving up work. We both want to live in my state, but obviously can't leave the kids behind. Our finances are stretched, but in no world would I give up the career I've been working toward since I was 7 years old. As soon as things got tight, however, I was the one who had to give up everything, because abandoning the kids is obviously not an option. I've had to take on odd jobs and gigs here and there since I can't find work in my field here, and I hate them. My husband feels terrible. I feel terrible.

And living here in this house all together I'm realizing again HOW MUCH I HATE KIDS. I love these kids, but I've never been good with kids and I resent feeling like the HELP so much! I can't work as much as I want here, and my husband has a demanding job, so the majority of running the house falls to me, something else I never wanted. We are trying to save to move, and have a plan to do it in about 5 months, but it will be tight again for a bit, and unless I book some great work (which I may!), we could risk this exact situation again.

We are basically living close to where I grew up since this is where the mom wants to live. I hated it here and couldn't wait to get out the minute I turned 18. Now I'm back here, which I never wanted, raising kids, which I hate, and not able to have my career, which is all I ever worked for and dreamed of! The only thing keeping me here (besides needing to start over financially-ugh) is my husband. I'm telling you, he's the most incredible man I've ever know, he loves me SO well, and this is breaking his heart. Men like him are SO rare, and I can't fathom just walking away from him.

But is that crazy? Should two people not have to compromise so much and I'm being an idiot in love?? I don't know. It's breaking my heart. Because if not for the kids, EVERYTHING WOULD BE PERFECT. We could have our lives, and our money, and our freedom, and just go live! I hate how much I resent them. And let's face it, they aren't going anywhere, and we have 11 more years of this life.

Why doesn't the dad get to have a say in where his kids live? HOW does he have the kids SO MUCH (nearly 1/3 of the time) and STILL pay the ex more than $4,500 a month in child support?? Not even including alimony? How is that possible?? I know I have to move out soon, because I would hate any of this resentment to EVER be felt by the kids. It's not their fault at all. I just had NO IDEA how hard this would be. How trapped I would feel. And I know that, at least for the next 10 years, whenever shit hits the fan, what I need or want will come in last place. I hate that.

Does anyone know this feeling at all? It feels like whichever way I turn, I'm giving up a huge chunk of myself or my life. I feel so selfish. I wish I could just love this family life, and this day to day crap, and being a homemaker, but I've never hated anything more. Every day I'm becoming more and more bitter. My husband knows, we talk about it constantly, but we never seem to be able to come up with any solution, other than, Save up enough money to live separately again, and wait for that time. Then, deal with it.

Help. I need advice. Encouragement. Someone to understand.

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furkidsforme's picture

#1. You sound completely Dickmatized. This is a fairly hefty list of some serious relationship ending baggage to be riding on "He loves me SO well..."

#2. He doesn't sound like all that great of a guy, TBH. He sort of sounds like he's using you as the nanny he can f*#@.

#3. He's not the only match out there for you. There IS a guy somewhere with no kids/grown kids/far away kids that would not require this amount of sacrifice. That same guy would also respect your value and that you have an equal right to your career as he does his. He would meet you halfway.

Like the poster above said, the right guy at the wrong time is still the wrong guy.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Welcome to the site and I am sorry I can't offer any more helpful information other than sometimes the things we want may not bring us happiness in the bigger picture. I think you're blaming the kids because they're easy scapegoats, but the issue is actually that you had to give up the things that made you happy in life (child-free, career, not in your hometown, etc.) for something else that you wanted (to be with this guy.)

In the long run, the honeymoon butterflies will wear out, and you need to see what you're left with. You seem to be luckier than a lot of us who have BMs that hate us and stepkids who hate us simply because we exist.

I'm not sure how he's paying $4500 a month either unless they agreed to it outside of state guidelines as he's got to be making close to mid six digits for that to occur (or he's lying), in which case... I don't know HOW you guys wouldn't have the money to live separately and in this case, then maybe re-examine your lifestyles? It's definitely possible to live on less. Most of America lives on less a month than what he's paying in CS.

I think both you and your husband gave yourself expectations and you, wanting to please him, made choices to make HIS life easier, but in reality, made yours harder. A marriage should improve everyone's life, not just one person's. I would say, living separately, or have someone watch the kids (like a nanny) so you can do you would be the best advice (a nanny might be cheaper than buying and maintaining a new home?)

SMto2's picture

I so wish I could give you encouraging words, but I have to be honest, this is not a healthy situation, and it's not likely to improve, at least for many, many years. No wonder you're bitter & resentful. You've sacrificed everything for him--your career, your "home"--and what's he given up? Nothing! In fact, he gained a nanny whom he gets to sleep with. Most women would not accept even "the perfect man" under these terms because, let's face it, with all that involved, he's not so perfect. Obviously, he was the major breadwinner in his marriage (sounds like the wife didn't work) and you can bet she's going to try to ride the gravy train to keep the alimony and as large a CS check as possible coming for as long as possible. I'm also curious about what he did for child care before you moved in. Whatever that is, he should be doing now. Even with that change, it would still be too much for me.

I've been married to my DH, a lawyer, for 18 years, and SSs were 3 & 5 when we got together. Because of my DH's huge CS obligation, plus short-term alimony, we were financially strapped for Quite a few years. I actually would have liked to work less, especially after I had my first DS with DH, but instead, we could not afford it. While BM worked part-time, my children with DH were in daycare 10 hours a day. I plowed ahead and built my legal career so we would have the benefit of my partner salary, to BM's disappointment, I'm sure, since she wanted DH to suffer financially as much as possible. My income has allowed us to have a much better lifestyle, but at a very high cost. I still have a lot of resentment about it. Fortunately, my SSs only came EOW and my DH provided most of their care. Had I been expected to basically act as a mother to two young children that were not mine a large amount of time on top of everything else, I'm pretty sure it would have been a deal-breaker, and I love my DH more than anything and can't imagine my life without him.

As sorry as I am to say this, if I were you, I'd chalk it up to right person, wrong time and cut my losses.

rainbowsanddrama's picture

Thanks for this comment. I completely agree with you. My husband does, as well. I'll be moving this summer. I'm glad to know of other couples that made long distance work for a long period of time Smile
Honestly, when we are in different states, it's not nearly as bad as this is, I just really needed to vent and connect with someone. I even enjoy the "me time" when he's with the kids and I'm alone in our place, as long as it isn't too much of it! Thanks again for the advice.

moeilijk's picture

It's really a basic human tragedy when we are confronted with the fact that love is not enough. Everyone has felt the feelings you are having right now - obviously not *exactly* the same, and your situation is as unique as fingerprints, but I, for one, have a lot of compassion for you.

That being said, you know what you need to be happy, you know what you are willing to offer and what you cannot. But you are constantly giving what you don't want to give, and never getting filled up. Of course you are unhappy and resentful.

You don't want that for yourself, and more, your DH doesn't want that for you either. Because you matter to him... and so does your happiness. Being together isn't nearly as important as being happy, and if you have to choose... choose happy.

I think you will find more possibilities when you commit to being happy. Certainly far more than if you are committed to being unhappy.

rainbowsanddrama's picture

Yes, we are saving up and working toward that, thank goodness. We do have separate finances, technically, because I prefer it, but my money comes in chunks (freelance) and his is consistent, so it flows back & forth at times. Plan is to move back in a few months! Sounds like such a short time, but boy can it feel long!

ntm's picture

You state that "our finances are stretched " as the reason you had to move back in with him and his kids. It sounds like it's really his finances are stretched. When you were working your career job and living on your own, you had no problems making your own ends meet. Take it from someone who was there and did that and seriously regrets it--do not subsidize him and his kid/ex financial obligations.

Move back to where you were happy. Keep your finances totally separate. He has to sink or swim on his own. The right man at the wrong time is indeed the wrong man. If this is meant to be then it will work out with you living where you are happy doing the work that makes you happy.

Luckyone's picture

Hi. I may have a bit of perspective on this. I lived 1754 (yes, we mapped it), from my dh. I have several small children, he has one adult daughter.

I moved with my four kids across the country to him, for him. I had no job, I would be living in a home that he had rented for my kids and me while I settled and found work. He knew he loved me but barely knew my kids.

We had no idea if this would work and I am sure it was the scariest thing he ever did. My dh is not a risk taker by nature. Everyone was really quite shocked when they found out.

The difference is, my dh LOVES kids. He loves MY kids. I didn't ask him to give up his career. It is a large part of who he is and him having to start over where I was would not have been good. Taking away what means so much to him and then throwing him into a new situation where he would be a father figure would have been so selfish of me. We lived separately when we moved here, he spent time easing in to the situation, not being thrown in. He set the pace. I asked a lot of him and I knew it at the time and we are ok now because we were smart about it. We have been together for some years now and share a home, life is good.

My point is that I was the one who brought the baggage to the relationship and I knew it. I didn't force anything. I knew things would need to happen organically and ultimately have to be his choice. If he had decided it was too much I would have understood and loved him enough to realize that his happiness mattered. It doesn't sound like this is happening for you and so when you say he is perfect except the kids, that isn't really true,is it? It doesn't sound like he is thinking of you at all. You have given up everything, what has he given up? My dh and I both sacrifice some things for our marriage, but what we gain is far more than what we give up, so it isn't a struggle at all. You have a right to be happy. If you were maybe going to grow to like the situation more, have more of an affinity for his children, that would be one thing, but you don't really want children and you will become more and more angry. Kids can be little soul suckers in the best of circumstances, they are needy and exhausting at times and if you don't also get the good parts, oh man, it can be hell.

My advice before you make any decisions is to have a come to Jesus meeting with your dh and explain that you have expectations, what you want and need, how he needs to step up and parent. Go from there. If you are taking care of him and he is taking care of him, who is taking care of you?

rainbowsanddrama's picture

Thanks for your story and perspective! Yes, I definitely could have bailed after realizing the "parent" thing wasn't for me, but the long distance solution was such a great fix for so long. I'm definitely going to try that again (plans to move in a few months) before deciding anything drastic. This was never meant to be a long term arrangement- me living here. He loves how independent and committed to my career I am, and I seriously think this is almost as awful for him as it is for me.
I will say this: he definitely takes care of me. He does sweet things, leaves notes, takes care of a big chunk of chores, esp considering how little he's here, and is always there when I need him. However- you're right, there is definitely an imbalance due to this setup, because when one person is home most days, and the other works 50-60 hours a week, it just sort of happens. I don't want to do nothing on my off days, so I take care of things. I just really miss working at the work I love. I'm sure that's a huge part of it.
We are much better living two independent lives, taking care of ourselves for the most part, for now. At least while he carries a lot heavier baggage.
And you're so right about the kids. I even love these kids. They are awesome, respectful, funny, and do their chores, etc, but if you don't have it, you just don't have it. Kids take by nature, that's just kids, and BOY does it drain you! I sometimes wish I had the gene or whatever that made me appreciate it or made it feel worth it, but I just do NOT. Oof.

rainbowsanddrama's picture

We definitely have that in the back of our minds, hopefully for the not-so-distant future. This is really good advice. We have sort of agreed to this arrangement until it didn't work anymore, and it seems it isn't really working anymore, obviously, lol. We just have to shore up our resources and figure out a plan. His job is in the state with the kids, for now, and while the kids are still pretty young he likes to see them more consistently, which makes sense to me. As they get a little older, a switch will likely be in order.
He's very open to finding a solution and adjusting as we go, thank goodness.
And the alimony will actually end SOON, unless she applies for an extension, which wouldn't surprise me one bit. Haha, we will have to see.....
Thanks for the comment!

rainbowsanddrama's picture

Thanks for the comments, you guys. Even the seriously angry ones (wow!) gave me a lot of perspective and made me think about things in a new way.
I will say a few things-
1. Thank you esp to those who had personal stories or could relate to a piece of this. I really just needed to feel a little less alone.
2. Financially, I know it sounds crazy, but I assure you we understand our finances clearly. He definitely isn't "lying" (lol) I see exactly what goes in and out each month. He does make good money, but we live in two expensive cities- one very expensive. The kind where you get a two bedroom condo for $600K. We are stretched thin even in the best of times, but we feel it's worth it for now.
Also, he had a really ugly divorce that wiped him out, so has to actively try to rebuild from scratch, retirement, all that. We are trying to balance living with planning for the future. The divorce dragged on forever, depleted all savings, even 401Ks (seriously) and just when it was over, she would hate it all and want to start again. I can't believe how dysfunctional the system for divorce can be in this country. I was around for the end of it, and it got to the point where she really cleaned him out because if they kept fighting, he became worried about what would possibly be left for kids, the future, etc. So she got a CRAZY sweet deal.
Ex: There is a fund just for child care that he's required to deposit $750/ month into, whether it's used or not, whether she works or not. Because they got divorced in one state and moved to another, he owes a lot more basic CS here, but they are also honoring the millions of extra things she got in the divorce, so it's just a screwed up situation. He has to pay for half her schooling, and her car, etc.
Just to explain, we aren't crazy money spenders, but boy did she have a great lawyer, I guess!
3. I'm definitely not scapegoating the kids. That's why I stated that none of this is their fault, and that I would HATE if they ever felt my resentment. I just have to face I can't live in a home with kids like this.
To the one that asked if I've thought about what would happen if the BM died. I'll tell you this, I HAVE thought about it, and BOY could we afford a lot of help, including a full time nanny! We've dicussed it, and decided we would live near each other, but in two homes if that happened, hire help, and at least we would be in the same state! Hopefully nothing like that happens, for the kids' sake!
I had stepparents. I know what it is to feel resented just for exisiting. That's why I worked so hard to help make a nice home for them, to get to know them, and to show them I support them. I probably overcompensated, which led to burn out.
I'm JUST not a kid person. I don't have the gene or whatever. But I'm lucky, you're right. They are sweet and respectful kids, they are always happy to see me, they are excited when we do things together, and my DH has made a point to make it "normal" when I do my own thing or opt out, so they have time with him, too. They are well mannered, do their chores, and if they act out, DH steps in. If he isn't there, they respect my boundaries and consequences. I'm lucky.
It's still hard though, and just isn't ideal at all.
4. I'm so surprised by the readiness to hate on him. He's an amazing guy. He does housework like crazy. I've expressed exactly how I feel about the kids, and he always supports me going away for the weekend when they are here, or, obviously, living in a whole different state until he can live with me. He is incredibly romantic, kind, and thoughtful. To answer the question about how the housework got done before I was here, it sort of didn't. He was crazy busy. When I got here, about 1/2 the boxes weren't unpacked from the move to this house 5 months prior. He was flying out to see me every other week, and working a demanding job, and seeing the kids as much as possible.
He's also great with them. I do help him set up systems, chore charts, etc, but he takes over the actual parenting and discipline. I sometimes nudge, I suppose, but unless I offer to take the kids, like sometimes I'll take them shopping or out to eat, he never expects that. We have a token system and he does great with it. (Ex: "I asked you to put on your shoes once. If I have to ask you again, I'm taking 2 tokens away.")
Yes, this situation worked out better for him, because that's what happens when kids are involved. It sucks. But that doesn't mean he's an asshole or "wants a nanny he can F***" Holy crap! This is the guy who, when my grandfather died, jumped on the next plane home from an overseas work trip. Who patiently stood by me while I recovered from an eating disorder. Who worked to build amazing relationships with all my siblings, to the point that they call him for advice sometimes. Who makes a point to constantly schedule "us time", rushes home from work to help me cook dinner, and surprises me with flowers and tickets to shows.
My point is, I would be 100% fine if I were single, I was totally happy that way before I met him, but we have been THROUGH it for the past 5 1/2 years, married for 3 1/2. I would rather be long distance and struggle financially a bit then suddenly up and divorce this man.

So thank you, because thinking about all that really helped me realize what was important in the long run. Smile I probably needed some devil's advocates to make me see all sides of this!
The comments about making my happiness a priority are so right on. I need to do me, take care of my needs, and feel grateful for the love and support of a good man, who happens to be my best friend. I suppose I just needed to feel sorry for myself for a minute, to connect. It's HARD sometimes. I do think it will be worth it, though. I just have to get back to ME. Smile

Disneyfan's picture

These kids are going to end up with a father they only see a few times a year once he moves.

He isn't moving because he can't find a decent job where he currently lives.
He isn't moving because he needs to get away from a nutty or dangerous ex.

He's moving because he made the CHOICE to marry someone who isn't a kid person and isn't happy where he lives.

Moving will be best for you and him, but what about his children?

Do you have any idea how many SMs posting here are stuck with full-time stepkids because the mother just HAD to be with the new love if her life?

This man isn't the right man for you at this point in his life.
You should not have to live a life you hate simply because he has children. His children should have their world turned upside down (having dad become a summer/holiday parent is a major change)simply because you are unhappy.

Acratopotes's picture

welcome....

I'm going to sound very bitchy now... but it is what it is Hon.... you realized you never want to have children, yet you are stuck with 3 and a ex wife...

I'm sorry I would end this and start over again, there's no shame in ending anything and starting over again, and Hon... no man is wonderful, especially no man with children from prior marriage... if he was wonderful - why the divorce