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Not2Crazy's picture

First off... BM and I do not talk. I refuse to deal with her manipulative ways. For the past year she stays in her corner and I stay in mine. I recently disengaged from SD16 because she is becoming just like her mother. I literally do nothing for her. We are the CPs and I say we because I am the one around 90% of the time.
So last night I hear SD16 yelling as SS13 about not flushing toilet and then she calls him an idiot. In front of his friend who is staying the night. We have had ongoing problems with her acting as his parent in this house. I send her a text telling her that I better not hear her call him an idiot again. She responds with how he didn't flush the toilet and left pee all over the toilet. I tell her no excuses, next time to tell a parent and let them parent him.
I am dealing with this issue because her Dad is passed out with a migraine. Otherwise, I would have had him do it.
So then, I see her texting BM (yes, I get all texts) about the whole thing. So them BM takes it upon herself to text SS, trying to parent him in our house. It went like this....
BM: Clean your bathroom. Especially if you have guests over.
SS did not respond, I did.
Me: This is Not2Crazy. You DO NOT dictate what these kids do in this house.
BM: It is my job however to teach them life skills.
Me: Not your house, not your rules! You have no idea what other things transpired besides what SD decided to tell you and not tell you about the situation. So be a parent at your house. Not ours!
BM: Wow.... I do know my son though. Equally what he needs to work on at your house or mine.
Me: Again.... You have no idea about the total circumstances in this house. SD has a nasty trashcan in her room full of used tampons and pads. Been there for 2 weeks and yet she's worried about sitting in pee. Parent at your house or I will put time limitations on their phones.
BM: As you know, you can't limit communication with my children. If she has that in her room you really should have more concern about what their living condition. Sounds lovely.
Me: Where is that written? It says you are allowed contact. But I can limit it to prevdnt you interrupting the household and I will if you can't stop assisting SD with belittling and bullying SS. Blame your daughter for her nasty room, not me. She's almost an adult and should act it. Instead of telling mommy when there's pee on the toilet.
EOC

Too far?

Lot more to the situation. Nasty trash is there because DH doesn't believe his angel doesn't listen or lie. She told him she took it out last week. Waiting to see how long it takes him to see for himself. I'm tired of being the one constantly harping on her nastiness. So I'm letting him witness it himself. May take a while. And her idea of teaching them life skills is building up SD and tearing down SS every chance she gets. SD can do no wrong. SS is treated like crap at her house. BM is the last person to be teaching life skills. Her life is a wreck! Like a 15 car pile up wreck! With an elephant, a plane, and a squirrel involved. Maybe even a blindfold or two.

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Not2Crazy's picture

Thank you for the constructive criticism. Good to hear how others would have handled it so I can apply it next time. Obviously I was doubting myself or I wouldn't have even posted. Thank you

thisisnotmocking's picture

Wow. I'd say you just set yourself up for a world of trouble telling their mother, in writing, that basically YOU, the stepmother, will control her communication with her kids.

She remained calm & civil. You didn't. In writing.

I know what I'd be doing with those this morning...

SM12's picture

Nope...I would have woke DH up and have him reply.
And I probably would have been a bit harsher to you than BM was.
My communication with my children is NONE of anyones business. It wasn't like she was praising him for pissing all over the toilet seat.
Was not something to blow up about. If you SD has a trash can full of tampons...that is on you to deal with no BM and frankly you and DH need to handle it.
As far as SD yelling at SS for peeing on the toilet seat...I think any teenage girl would have done the same thing...right or wrong. Its gross and he needed told.
Maybe not by SD but it needed handled.

zerostepdrama's picture

In my experience older siblings often try to parent their younger siblings. But her telling him something that she doesn't like or speaking up really isn't that big of deal in my opinion. I would hope if SS saw pee on the toilet seat from BS that he would say something to him. Preferably in a nice way, but hey kids will be kids Wink

How would you have reacted if SD came to you and asked you to handle it?

SD should not have went back and complained to BM because that only causes problems. But you upset her by yelling at her, she's immature I am sure, so she went and vented to her mom.

I dont think the BM stepped out of line. She obviously thinks the texts she is sending to her kids is private.

Do you read all the texts between them?????

I dont think BM was trying to tell SS what to do in your house but in general she was telling him to clean up after himself. I'd be grateful for that positive reinforcement.

My Ex usually tells BS "Behave for your mom and SF". I dont think "Ugh why is he telling BS what to do in MY house???"

WalkOnBy's picture

While I will agree with the fact that the husband needs to be doing the parenting, I don't agree that a judge would royally kick her ass if he found out that she was limiting the contact with SD. As you know, we monitor all communication avenues to ensure that the skids have no contact with Medusa, and DH's judge would have no problem with that.

I don't think OP was waaaay out of line. Sounds like the BM is only peripherally involved and OP and her DH do the bulk of the child rearing.

After all, when he took custody from her and gave her two hours a week, she is the one who told him that she would only go if he ordered DH to give her gas money. "Madam, I will not order Mr. DH to PAY you to see your children."

Of course, in my head, I was thinking "isn't that what child support is? Payment for the privilege to see your kids??" Snorty...

hereiam's picture

BM: Clean your bathroom. Especially if you have guests over.

^^^I guess I don't see what is wrong with this.

As for the rest, I agree with Echo.

DaizyDuke's picture

This is what I was thinking.... Seems as though you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. To me, this is BM actually trying to be HELPFUL! I mean if she texted SS and said something like "your sister is not your boss and neither is your SM, you don't have to listen to anything either one of them says" then yeah, maybe a snippy response was warranted... but I think you went WAYYYY over the top for the situation at hand.

.... and now thanks to you poking the bear, BMs next text to SS will probably be along the lines of "your sister is not your boss and neither is your SM, you don't have to listen to anything either one of them says"

Not2Crazy's picture

Thank you! And yes, her level of interfering in this house was off the charts until I stepped up. The stories I have far exceed most of the stuff I've seen on here. That's why I rarely post. No one else has dealt with women like this one. I'm always the one who "wins" hands down with BM psycho stories in conversations. The only time I've seen this woman back off is when I've backed her into a corner. And now she is using her daughter to do the same things in my own house. So much more to this situation than people know, as I'm sure is with most people here. I don't understand why people think that just because I chose a guy with kids, that I automatically became a doormat in my own home and gave up my rights to protect those in it. If that's controlling and aggressive, then so be it. But that little boy will not walk on egg shells in this house like he's had to at his mom's all his life. He's not even allowed to call his dad "dad" over there. He has to call him by his first name or he gets punished. Sorry, vent over.

And yes, he was told to and cleaned up the toilet.

Not2Crazy's picture

Can somone please explain to me how this is going to bite me in the ass? Apparently I don't understand how I have no say over when a child in my home can and can't get his ass chewed on. We have actually been directed by the child's counselor to monitor her texts and limit contact if necessary. And yes, obviously I effed up on the disengaging thing. Not perfect here. Obviously or else I would not have posted. I knew I was going to catch crap for putting all of it on here word for word. But I chose to so that you guys would know the whole conversation, good and bad, instead of paraphrasing to make myself look better. I was looking for constructive criticism. Not name calling or being told I'm one step away from being a psychopath. I didn't expect sugar coating but shit!

Willow2010's picture

PLEASE be aware that there are a few posters on this board that get their jollies off by attacking other women
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Yes…it is sickening too.

Anywho…I am on the fence about this. If skids were in SMs house 4 days a month…I would think she went overboard and as a BM I would have ripped her a new one. (Especially when I thought I was teaching my child to clean up after himself..)

However…this is a full time SM. She is more of a BM than the actual BM so I think SM has the say here. Maybe not threatening to cut contact time but she sure has the right to tell BM to stay out of HER house business.

WalkOnBy's picture

You know? I really don't have that much of a problem with what OP said and how she said it. From what she tells us, SHE is the custodial SM and that doesn't mean that she has to sit back and never say anything in her own home.

Those of us who are (un)forutnate enough to be full timers often times ARE the de facto moms, even if we don't want to be. I would laugh my ass off if Medusa EVER tired to interfere with ANYTHING that was going on in my house.

OP - let me tell you how this may come back to bite you in the ass. IF you and DH find yourselves in court over an issue, BM may try to bring this in as "evidence" that you are a big fat meanie head who should not be around her precious babies. BUT, since your DH is the CP, I am guessing that there is a pretty good reason why the skids are with you and DH and not BM.

Here is another way - BM gets mad because you yelled at her and files a motion to keep you away from her babies. I have been there, done that and not one fucking thing happened.

I know lots of people will tell you that you are screwed, that you overstepped and all kinds of other bullshit. As a SM who is also custodial and disengaged (for the most part), I can tell you that what you did was not the worst thing in the world. That it probably won't come back to bite you in the ass and that, while I would have used different words, I totally get why you said what you said Smile

WalkOnBy's picture

I don't think you are "overstepping" and I can't tell you how much I hate that word. If you are telling your daughter to behave and be nice and not try to triangulate, I don't see how that could be interpreted as trying to butt in to what goes on at SM and dad's house.

My kids tried to triangulate once, maybe twice, but like you, I shut that shit down and told them that I didn't care WHO SM was, she was an adult and they will respect her as an adult AND as their father's wife.

Once they realized they couldn't recruit my to "their side" they went back to being well mannered kiddos.

WalkOnBy's picture

Yeah, but it sounds like maybe they might be talking shit about her now anyway - lol!!

I never cared if Medusa showed the skids the things I texted her, which were few and far between, but I was careful with my words.

kathc's picture

meh

I don't think you should have bothered engaging BM. But I won't condemn you for doing it, either.

To be honest, if BM wanted to tell skid to flush the damn toilet in my house I'd appreciate that she was trying to make him not be a little scuzbag.

Maxwell09's picture

I'm not too proud to say I could see myself responding like you did. I get it; I'm not saying it was the right way to handle it by any means but I think we full time Stepmoms get to a point when there's been enough interference and even the slightest bump in the road is irritating. But still, in all, I think the SD made you look like a huge bitch and she's the victim. Your SS handled it better than anyone by ignoring her. That's what everyone should have done; SD should have ignored SS's mess, BM should have ignored her daughters tattling and you should have ignored their private conversation. How would have SS handled it if he were left to deal with it without you stepping in? He would have ignored her, or stood up for himself and told his mom his side of the story. I don't agree that your was will be handed to you in court because you threatened to limit phone time only because you also put that you wouldn't stop communication just limit it. You do have an argument that SD is trying to involve BM in your household squabbles; SD could have easily talked to you about it since you're more likely to get him to clean his toilet than BM. I think next time you should let SS fend for himself and if he feels like he needs your help then your DH should take care of it leaving you clean handed.