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Why do I have the craziest BM !

motherof_2plus1's picture

Soooo recently it has been brought to my attention that SD4 is telling BM that I am hitting her.... This is what BM is saying of course. She sent FDH a video of SD talking about me and how mean and rude I am to her and that she doesn't like me.

FDH had a talk with SD after he saw this video and showed her the video and said this is what Mommy sent to me. Asked her why she doesn't like me... her response; because mommy doesn't and because she hits me.

FDH knows this is an absolute lie and told the little girl that it is not good to lie and just because mommy doesn't like her doesn't mean you don't have to like her. She went quiet and didn't say anything more about it.

This is actually the first time FDH has said something to SD in regards to her attitude towards me and I was very happy for it because I feel it needed to be done. I also am NEVER alone with SD and now I will make it a point to never be alone with her.

Could these accusations hold up in court? I have 2 children of my own and fear this could trickle down and affect them. Could they be interviewed as to the validity of this?

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sunshinex's picture

I'd leave the relationship in all honesty. It just isn't worth it. Child abuse accusations are a HUGE deal, especially if you have children and/or a professional career.

motherof_2plus1's picture

You really honestly think that's my only option? :?

Could the judges not see through this? and rip her allegations apart?

sunshinex's picture

I feel like judges often side with victims because they have to, ya know? They're not going to let a child continue to live with someone who MIGHT be abusing them. They're going to assume it's an abusive situation for the safety of the child. So no, I don't think judges will see through it and rip her allegations apart. I think they'll believe her because it's safer for the child and that's who they will care about in this situation - not you.

Disneyfan's picture

If I were in your shoes, I would walk away from this relationship.

No man is worth me losing my career and pension for. I wouldn't risk having my kids pullef from my home.

I wouldn't roll the dice on my children or my career.

still learning's picture

Since there is video *evidence* of SD testifying against you there will probably be an investigation. Yes they will interview your children. They'll take them into a separate room one by one, talk to them, and disrobe them to check for bruises. In the future if SD gets any bruise or cut it will be blamed on you. I would leave for your own sanity and for the safety of your children. If it's somehow *proven* that SD has been abused by you then your own children could be removed from your care.

I've been investigated by CPS twice due to false claims by exH. Both times it was proven *Unfounded* but still it was extremely stressful for me and the children. I never retaliated against exH because I didn't want my kids to have to go through that again. It's only going to get worse as time goes on. If BM plants the seeds in SD's mind that she's being abused, she's young and maelable enough to belive it.

This sucks, I'm really sorry.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

Your DH needs to do something and quick. The daughters video "confession" is huge. You've got a BM here who will escalate the situation while causing mental harm to her daughter. If it goes to court one would hope they would see through it but this is going to be a nightmare to you, your partner, and your joint family.

Get this child in therapy asap. If possible your partner needs to get primary custody siting BM's clear attempts at alienation and manipulation. He needs to express his concern. This isn't just about you and what's being said. It's about the kid whose basically being brain washed.

Sadly I don't think this will end well either way. You need to make a plan with your partner now. NEVER be alone with this child. If possible place nanny cams in common areas of the home. Possibly face them towards bedroom doors though not in to protect privacy. You're going to need your own evidence if this ever goes to court.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

^^All of this.

And what about YOUR children, OP? Are THEY ever alone with SD? If you are not, your children could become the next target. This is scary stuff.

motherof_2plus1's picture

I actually didn't even think of my kids not being alone with her... although they are all young so they are never actually "alone" together, if only playing in the playroom.

I'm terrified that because my FDH shacked up with a lunatic that I will be paying the ultimate price.

Maybe setting up cams would be a good option.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Even worse, your children could pay the price. This is not a good situation. Sad

BSgoinon's picture

Sadly, my SS and ODD were only 2 and 4 when BM starting accusing ODD of "touching him"... of course there was NO truth behind it. She told DH that SS "told her that"... SS could barley put a sentence together. DH said "ok, lets sit down and talk to him together". She changed her story real quick. "Oh, no, he said that she is the only one that changes his diaper"... ummmm... she wes 4, she has NEVER changed his diaper. Idiot.

They will try ANYTHING. Trust me.

DaizyDuke's picture

I really hope you are not planning on babysitting this girl on Sunday while your BF works! :O

Pharlap's picture

You need to leave or ban the child from your home until this gets sorted out and you and DH come up with a plan. He can go see her outside of the house with out you or your kids around. Harsh, but you have your kids to worry about.

DaizyDuke's picture

To be honest, I don't think you have anything to worry about other than a nightmare life with this brat. I mean, let's say that BM takes this to CPS or family court. YOUR children will undoubtedly be interviewed and will undoubtedly say that you have never hit them and that they have never seen you hit SD, your DH will say the same, so it will be 5 people's word against a 4 year olds.

I guess in my experience CPS is a joke. I mean BM1's youngest daughter got bit in the face by their dog, BM1 and her 4 kids (not DH's) were living in a 2 bedroom apartment with 3 other adults so they didn't have a room or beds etc., BM1 has her baby daddy #2 in and out living with them even though he has been arrested multiple times for assaulting her and her brother that also lives with them, BM1 has been hotlined numerous times for neglect, has been a suspected drug user for years now and every freaking time, CPS does n.o.t.h.i.n.g.

sure, would it be a hot mess having to deal with CPS, court etc? Absolutely, but I don't think you are in danger of losing your kids.

motherof_2plus1's picture

Exactly... if she takes this up with CPS or brings it up in court, which I'm sure she will, I know that if my kids get asked they will undoubtedly say no, my mom has never hit me, no my mom has never hit SD.

I'm just more shocked at the level she will go to ruin any relationship myself and more importantly FDH has with his own daughter.

If its found that this is a complete lie would this fall back on BM for reporting false allegations or would it just be done with and dropped?

DaizyDuke's picture

It would most likely never stick because BM will just deny that she has filled SD head full of nonsense. BM would play MOTY and make it look like she was just trying to protect her sweetums from the evil SM.

motherof_2plus1's picture

Ugh that's the thing... she will still come out on top and be thrilled that she caused such havoc in our lives

DaizyDuke's picture

exactly what I am saying. Will anything come of this? most likely not. But do you really want to put yourself and your kids through that nonsense, when BM and SD will come out smelling like roses? I mean it's really already started hasn't it? didn't you say your inlaws were questioning you about making SD sleep out side and hitting her and stupid stuff?

motherof_2plus1's picture

What?? no that was not me... my inlaws are fabulous and making SD sleep outside...? You must be thinking of someone else.

PokaDotty's picture

I had a friend who's DH was removed from the home due to false allegations for a YEAR while CPS investigated. Even though he was able to prove he was at work at the time of the incident (daughter broke leg) and his boss provided a letter as well, it still took a year to "investigate". He stayed with his parents for the year.

Disneyfan's picture

I know a family that had all 4 kids removed(oldest 2 were husband's kids, youngest two were their kids)because dad slapped his oldest daughter for disrespecting her SM(my friend's sister)

The school reported abuse(he left a mark on the girl's face) and the kids were removed. It took them a year to get their kids back. Fortunately, CPS allowed a family placement for the kids.

If mom is able to convinced a worker that the claims are true, all of the kids will be pulled from the home.

Thumper's picture

The accusations can ruin your life. This is not a knee jerk idea of mine. It is not a slice of sarcasm either.

Assuming what is being said are falsehoods, you must understand that CPS will take this seriously and within a day or two after reported they will come to your door.

Since you have two bio children of your own---your obligation is to them. the next few years may be spent in court trying to defend yourself in front of cps, a family court Judge AND your ex husband who may have been awarded custody because of all this.

I have seen first hand abused infants and primary school aged kids. It's awful. BUT I have not seen anyone falsely accused get time in the clinker. What DOES happen is they are financially ruined, careers lost and respect within the community gone.

Your options are:1. do not be present during the child's time with bio dad.
2. Never be alone with bio child
THE above are necessary to protect yourself from false charges.
3. find out whether or not BM has ruined pervious relationships that your boyfriend had.
It is unlikely you are the first AND only target. I would bet my last penny she has done this before in one capacity or another.

4. Ask yourself "is this how I want to spend the rest of my life"?

Do not day dream about how thing may or MIGHT be. Answer that question based on the current reality.

Please be careful. Google child psychologist in your town OR a larger town near by. SD needs to be checked by someone with specific credentials. THIS NEEDS to be dealt with now not later.

motherof_2plus1's picture

I totally agree that I should not be alone with the child, however, i do not want to be pushed out of my own home, my children included.

I always knew she was a bit batty but NEVER though she would take it to this level.

motherof_2plus1's picture

DH and I should go into therapy now? and advise them what is going on so they can document? Or with the SD aswell?

skatermom's picture

I'm not big into therapy. The girl lied, plain and simple. Kids lie, ALL THE TIME!! She's trying to get attention, bust her out. Sit her down. Ask her in front of Dad, mom and SM if possible, "OK, what happened?" Just watch as her little story dissolves into a round of tears. Children of divorce love to play this game and yes it starts early, real early. I have 2 BDs and 3 SDs, I've been dealing with all sorts of crap for YEARS.

motherof_2plus1's picture

My thing is that i am totally convinced that BM is coaching her daughter to say these things in order for her to come out ahead of their pending Custody case.

skatermom's picture

I've dealt with this. SDs9 told their mother that my girls were hitting them in the face "daily and repeatedly." Never happened. BM send DH a text and he got all testy with me. So when the SDs arrived back, we sat everyone on the couch and I told them what we received from their mom, in fact DH brought up the text from BM and showed it to them, which they denied ever saying. So he then called BM, put her on speaker phone and said, "we have everyone here, what happened" She said what they said and here come the tears from SDs, totally busted.

We asked them why they would make up lies like this to their mom and how harmful this was and their reply was, "I thought they hit us"

So, my point is, bust them out with all parties and It won't happen again, guaranteed.

Dontfeedthetrolls's picture

Except in this case you don't have a child making up stories. You have a mother doing it and pressuring / cuing the child into saying what she wants.

The mother has "video evidence" that she put together. She doesn't want this to go away. She want's to cause issues because she doesn't care about the child's well-being. She cares about her own interest.

Getting her on the phone for a sit down will not go well. It will end with screaming and crying. You will likely have a small child SCREAMING that they want to go home to mommy and you guys will look like the bad guys.

Rags's picture

I would engage an attorney and go after BM for defamation of character with a vengeance. Own her lying ass and put her living under the local overpass for the rest of her miserable life.

I have zero tolerance for this kind of crap and would go after it with total destruction of BM in mind.

motherof_2plus1's picture

I REALLY have thought of this and some have recommended this to me as well. What proof do I have against her though? I cant prove that she is feeding SD sht and coaching her along... there is no way to prove this. I wouldn't have a case against her.

Solidshadow7's picture

The legal route will probably cost 20K in legal fees and has a 90% chance of going nowhere, unfortunately.

Acratopotes's picture

When DH talked to SD about it and showed her the video asking her why is she saying this, you should've recorded her answer as proof that you are not doing anything... maybe try something like this again and get proof..

but yes posters are correct, either your husband goes to the police with the video and give a declaration of the truth, with SD..., get SD in therapy or you simply leave, SD is only 4... are you prepared to loose your own children or sanity in the next 14-20 years because of this??

motherof_2plus1's picture

We did video the recording that DH took.... but the problem is she says that I hit her and i don't think that's something positive to put forth to a professional.

Solidshadow7's picture

I had a similar situation with my batty BM as well. At the time SS was three and nonverbal. He threw a tantrum when we put sunscreen on him so we were a little bit too careful and he ended up with a very small sunburn under his eye. BM took the child to the doctor, who told her it was a sunburn. She insisted that it was a bruise. And insisted and insisted. In the medical records it says she repeatedly stated it must be a bruise or a black eye.

She then called CPS, and said I punched him in the face and gave him a black eye, and she submitted the medical records from the doctor as proof that it was a black eye. (Even though it only said that she repeatedly stated it was a black eye.) She crossed out the line where the doctor said it was a sunburn. Yes she was so crazy she submitted "evidence" of my abuse to CPS.

Luckily we already knew she was insane, so we had previously created a bunch of "body check" forms. Every time SS is picked up, he is undressed and inspected. Any marks bug bites sunburn or dirt are marked down on the form which we then both sign. Anything suspect is photographed and kept as evidence. When we sent SS home, we fill out another body check form, documenting his physical condition at the time he leaves.

The weekend that CPS suddenly showed up, SS had arrived with his entire torso covered in suspicious bruises. We filled out a body check form, drew the marks, and photographed them with the date and time.

When CPS arrived, the first thing the case worker wanted to do was check him for more signs of abuse. (And he was covered head to toe in suspicious bruises courtesy of BM) All body check forms and photographs were promptly handed over to her, together with a text message from the BM threatening to call CPS if DH continued to fight her for custody.
The caseworker left without even inspecting the house and promptly closed the investigation.

Pity they didn't bother to investigate BM.