Who knows what, if anything, was accomplished. It kind of sounded a lot like the same ol' conversations to me.

EXCEPT (drum roll please):

ONE thing that struck me as interesting is that H, without me saying a WORD (ever), brought up how clingy and needy SS is. I swear to God, I have never brought this up. I've watched it from afar and felt like yakking when I see it, but I have never said anything to my H about it, because it was one of those things that might have been really hurtful for me to say. So I've never brought it up.

But H brought it up in our conversation this morning.

I asked him what he meant by "clingy and needy." H said that SS can't seem to do anything independently, is always seeking approval - even on the smallest things, and becomes really ridiculously upset when H tries to spend time doing something other than entertaining him. H said that SS seems way more emotionally immature than he should be for his age.

Now THIS is a VERY interesting twist to current events.

H is finally seeing it?!?!

I was very careful to not say too much, but I threw the term "insecure attachment" out there.

THIS is just the break-through H has needed. His head is coming out of his ass. HOPEFULLY!!!

From this, we might be able to grow. From this, SS could get help.