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HS752's picture

It has been a wild first half of the year.  Too much to get in one cohesive post.  SO was back in court in early May - filed a new motion for contempt which sent the BM off.  In the six weeks or so between the court dates, she scheduled, canceled and rescheduled all kinds of appointments for SD without telling my SO (who was obtaining the information himself, showing up for the appointments expecting her to be there only to find out BM canceled the appointments w/o notifying him - he lives an hour away), she took took SD off her antidepressant w/o consulting SO, and was late getting the kiddo to school so often SD had a failing grade for her first period classes. He has made a genuine effort to co-parent with her and be more helpful with SD medical appointments - he is making and taking her to all her therapy appointments.  BM sworn affidavit in response to his motion was unhinged -  accusing him of making appointments on "her time" (SO only has SD EOW) and "acting like he has sole custody by making appointments without consulting me" (oooohkay)...and she has a lawyer!

The day before the hearing, the GAL shredded the BM and her attorney and reccommended giving SO summer placement, full custody of medical decisions, and a hold on child support for the summer. BM astonishingly agreed to it.  A trial was set for the end of August, before school starts.  BM requested a psych eval and the GAL said "to the tune of 7 thousand dollars each? I don't think that's necessary."  BM requested a custody study.  The judge ordered it.

Two weeks before SD was to come live with SO full-time (only seeing mom EOW) - SD therapist called SO and informed him that she believes SD is being abused by BM (duh), and was contacting CPS and the GAL.  Apparently, BM was telling SD that she would un-alive herself if SD went to live with her dad.  CPS decided it wasn't enough to open an investigation or report it to authorities *eye roll* so nothing came of it, which we figured as SD was weeks away from living with dad.

SO confirmed with BM the night before the summer exchange the time and location, and she replied and confirmed.  The next morning, she drove to a location 30 minutes away and then blamed SD for giving her the wrong information.  SD was beside herself when she finally got to her dad.  BM did not allow her to bring anything but the clothing on her back and her medication.  She told SD this is what SD wanted and that she would not be contacting her because she needed a "clean break" (big time discard)  The poor kiddo - not two hours later BM is texting SD about how much she misses her and how its not the same without her around. Crazy making stuff.....and so so so much more....just in three weeks of SD living with SO full time.  SD has been opening up about her home life with her mother....its the stuff of nightmares.  We have been encouraging her to tell these things to GAL, her therapist and eventually the custody evaluator....we truly hope she does.

We are currently in the middle of the study.  SO met with them the first time two weeks ago and learned BM had not replied to the evaluators messages or returned the survey (no surprise there) and they discussed what would happen if she refused to participate. SO got to give a lot of background info in the first meeting and they went over his questionnaire, signed all the release forms for them to obtain records etc etc. I also have a questionnaire to fill out, I sent that in with some supporting documentation and set up my interview.  SO met with them yesterday, and it seemed like all hell broke lose.  Since that first meeting, they had clearly talked with BM, her fiance, and SD former (nut job) therapist.  They came at him HARD.  Told him this was the most bizarre case they'd seen in their careers. Nearly three hours they met.  By the end SO was questioning his reality again (is he really the terrible parent? is SD the deeply troubled behavioral mess BM and former therapist claim? is SD now telling lies about her mom to get her way?)  He was so shook, he saw his therapist right after.

I am deeply troubled by the accusations they made towards him and things the SD allegedly told her former therapist about me.  This is a child that I want to believe what she is saying, and I have been squarely slapped in the face by a blatant lie she told about me.  Based on all my training and experience, I know that this child is most likely lying as a self preservation tool, but how do I convey that to these evaluators? Our fears about the former therapists opinions being given too much weight has been brought to the forefront again (soooo many issues with the former therapist).  I kept telling my SO that they probably went hard after BM too, but who knows...from what they mentioned to SO about what they have been told, a smear campaign is in full force against my SO AND SD and it makes me ill.

Does anyone have any experience with custody evaluations?  We have turned over tons of evidence supporting SO claims of BM being a difficult (that is being kind) and how her behavior is negatively impacting SD.  They have added a third interview with SO next week, and SD is next week as well.  We were feeling pretty confident about our position on things....and now we are not so sure!!  I have no idea what to expect when they get to me on the 3rd!!!

Thanks so much for reading....

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CLove's picture

Im so sorry - I have no advice to give about this, as we were not involved much with court cases - just a few things were filed mostly for money.

Sad that SD is at the center of this chit storm and cant live a happy normal life...

Rags's picture

First, it is extremely rare to leave one of these types of actions without being skeeved out and feeling like you need a high pressure scalding shower to get the nasty off of you.  Even when you are the quality side of the equation and have won.

We never had custody evaluations. We did have to defend a change of custody attempt by the shallow and polluted end of my Skid's gene pool.   Our model was always to provide anything and everything requested by the courts and go with every assbaring fact, document, and witness immaginable to skin the opposition alive in court and on the public record.  They would come in with nothing more than the Spermidiot's last 2 pay stubs and none of the information demanded by the courts.  We made sure to ask where their information was every other sentence while in court.  "Your honor, we did not receive XYZ information from the (toxic opposition). As you have reviewed, we have provided that information as requested, here is a notarized copy for the opposition in case they failed to review it when it was submitted to them XX weeks ago."

We came to every hearing loaded for bear, we provided the documented facts, we provided support for those facts, we made sure that every toxic molecule of putrid breath they ever spouted was highlighted, rehighlighted, and highlighted again.

We made the point of our efforts the SKid's well being and how the noxious crap in the shallow and polluted end of his genepool/SpermClan was clearly detrimental to the SKid's well being.  

It sounds that the GAL is clear on reality and that you are well prepared to confront the bullshit BM and her cesspool of support will pull out of their asses.  

We never lost. Sadly, even with court support for our position, the SKid was still exposed to their putrid effluent gene pool bullshit.  We made sure that he knew we had his back, that we would work with him on any challenges he would drag home from SpermLand visitations. He knew we would not lie to him. As he progressed through the 16+ years we lived under the CO he was introduced to the facts in an age appropriate manner.  

Ultimately he escaped them when he aged out from under the CO and no longer had to visit per the COd visitation schedule. Even with a long distance visitation schedule to SpermLand they would try to PAS him against his mom and me.  

Stay the course, tolerate no bullshit, bare their asses wholesale with every fact, witness, and PI report you can compile and keep compiling more and more for the entire duration of the SKid's CO years and beyond. Keep the facts in front of the kid to counter BM's manipulations. Be calm, be confident, and be professional in presenting, discussing, and exposing BM's crap to/with the SKid. In an age appropriate manner of course.

People like this BM never stop their crap. Not even when the SKids become SKidults.  The full frontal facts give the SKid the ability to defend themselves against a toxic parent and shallow and polluted end of their gene pool.  

For us, SS learned for reality for himself. He knew the facts, would research heavily when he would return from SpermLand when they would spout some crap that did not pass the smell test. He would sit down with his mom and me to discuss it.  It got to where he would call them on their lies and manipulations in real time when he was on visitation.  It did not end when he aged out from under the CO at 18.  He ended up writing them off completely after they went after him to repay them for the 17+ years of CS that was ordered under the CO when he was less than 1yo.  Their tactic was that he owed that money to his three younger also out of wedlock Spermidiot spawned half sibs by two other baby mamas.  He turned his back on them after 4 years of those manipulation attempts.

Stay the course, bring the facts, destroy the toxic, and give the SKid a chance at an adult life with them as contained as possible.

Good luck.

Thumper's picture

Question:

Does anyone have any experience with custody evaluations?

Answer: 

What I do know is, Custody Evals lack reliability. Because, there is no standard of practice FOR evaluators. That alone is a huge red flag.  

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Here are a few points you may not be aware of.

-Your bf having summer visitation is pretty standard stuff. There are kids on ST that are spending all summers, 1/2 of Christmas, all of spring break with ncp. It's been standard for 25years or more in family court to 'grant' this when ncp asks for visitation. 

-The shenanigans bm is playing with the doctors appointments, stuff she says. etc..is right out of the high conflict bm handbook.  Her gift of pausing child support for

1 1/2 months is her way of showing the court she is co-parenting with bf. 

-If a bm is custodial parent--it is rare custody flips unless she lands in jail with pending felonies. Those felonies usually include child neglect and/or child abuse. 

-Your bf is better off trying to  tip the scales of custody more towards 50 50 equal residential than trying to flip full custody from bm to him. 

Rags's picture

summers, 1/2 of Christmas, all of spring break with ncp. It's been standard for 25years or more in family court to 'grant' this when ncp asks for visitation. 

Our CO confirmed DW as having full physical and legal custody and established long distance visitation for the NCP (Spermidiot).

In our case vistation was 5wks summer, 1wk (1/2 of) winter, 1wk (all of) spring.  

IMHO, based on our situation, long disance is far less drama on everyone involved.  No EOW or EOWE, no 50/50 with all of the constant instability for everyone, none of the overwhelming opportunity for PAS in either or both directions, and far less chance of SKid's playing the one parent against the other game.

Even if I were an NCP I would invoke long distance visitation by moving out of the radius for local visitation schedules. That is usually ~200 miles based on my likely dated knowledge on the topic.  I would far rather see my kid(s) for extended dedicated times with minimal manupulation and interferance by the opposition than to see them regularly with all of the toxic crap that seems to come along with a local visitation schedule of 50/50.

If I were the CP, same thing. I would manufacture a career situation where it was notably superior for me to move me and the kid(s) out of State to invoke a long distance visitation situation. Even if I had to give far more than half of summer, half of winter break, and all of spring break.

Long distance puts a manipulative interfering parent at a notable disadvantage in plying their toxic crap than a local schedule does.

Though our situation was likely as much about SS being such a mellow non confrontational kid than anything else. We kept the CO front and center and he knew it was "the law". He never once expressed that he did not want to go to SpermLand for visitation or that he did want to go. Nor did he ever express that he did not want to come back home.  He did have questions when the SpermGrandHag would dump the whiney crap in his ear about us keeping him from them (that never happened), or that it wasn't fair that we lived so far from SpermLand, etc.... But no drama that SS was driving.

Harry's picture

I don't know what to tell you.  Your going through courts.   Just make sure all communication with BM is in text or MFW   Nothing by phone or in person.  If BM tells you something in person you immediately text her back with a summary of what she said. 
" this is to comfier that the drop off time is Sunday at 2 pm at X location ".  Make sure you keep all the texts.