Show Cause for Child Support (Long Read)
I normally don't involve myself in actual court cases between DH and BM. The last one they had was when we were getting married and DH was establishing visitation and custody rights. Anything else has been show causes for child support which is BM's manipulation tactic because they normally get thrown out.
This one was different. BM called CPS on us in DEC (which is why i have been absent). She said I beat my children til they fall, DH leaves them in the car to go grocery shopping. It was some other stuff but those were the biggest. I had been telling DH that BM was ramping up for some reason and thatvif he didn't try to contain it something would happen. She says she didnt call but the city clerk called because of what she wrote in her affidavit to reduce DH's visitation which was I'm rude amd unsafe with SD10, we don't feed her as punishment for snitching and force her ride without a seatbelt.
While she filed to reduce visitation she filed a show cause because she wants to pile as much as she can to intimidate DH. He normally folds but he is doing really well at holding his own this time. Plus I'm helping out because BM essentially tagged me in. Her allegations are seriously all over the place, never happened and insane. This woman is seriously bent in the head enough to risk my children in some BS that only happens in her head.
The show cause for child support was yesterday and it was about a stalemate. BM said in mediation then repeated to the child support enforcement worker that she would drop the show cause and reduce the child support if DH agreed to drop sharing joint custody. The worker looked at her like she had 3 heads and told BM that even if DH had agreed to it that she would never allow that to be written because it was just wrong. BM started crying right there.
Because they couldnt come to an agreement they had to go to court in front of the judge. This is where DH decided he no longer needed a foot and shot himself in it. BM had wrote that DH owed 11k in arrears when he only owed about 2k and had been on a plan with the state to pay them down. When asked about why she wrote such a large number she said the clerk told her (a lie because no city clerk of court can tell you what child support anyone owes. It's like going to DMV and asking how much does a person B pay for car insurance. Thats just not what they handle). When they bought up all his payments they had shown that while DH's payments weren't on the 1st every month, they were consistant and were paying down his arrears.
When they asked DH about why he wasnt paying on the first he said that he had got new jobs (judge said that was voluntary but his jobs were through a toll where average use is about 2k a year. Its a real financial blight on our area) but they just never paid him like the one he had that mysteriously closed and was where his initial child support was based on. His last job he got fired from then started his own business and he could pay his support but just not on the first. The judge was fine with that because official policy is you have the whole month to pay it. The only thing is he didnt make a payment for last month (which i didnt even know about). So the judge said it seemed like he willfilully didnt pay anything and didnt have a plan to pay it was was going to give him 15 days. As explanation DH said he had work but couldnt work be ause he provided child care in the daytime. That's when he lost his foot. Because even I was sitting in the back knowing his dumb self was going to jail. I told him before we got that that courts dont care about providing child care and that it would seem like he was choosing to be a stay at home dad. I work in the daytime and am home with the kids in the evenings while he works but I dont get to be called a stay at home mom. Him staying with the kids in the daytime and working in the evenings shouldnt qualify him as a stay at home dad but the legal system just isn't set up for the way American life is right now. I knee Feb was a bad month for him work wise but i didnt know he hadn't paid. I feel bad because I realised in court that he didnt tell me because he didnt want to ask me for the money. We got hit with a large unexpected bill in FEB (had a gas leak) which depleted my reserves and took his money and I remember fussing at him because of the seriousness of the gas leak and how he needed to help me with that bill. I don't know why he didnt say that in court, I'm sure they would have made the connection that dying by a gas leak and killing the whole family was more important than child suport for the month especially because he had a plan to pay up for it this month but then again I'm not so sure. They probably would put him in jail for being in a coma for a month.
He was going to get the 15 days unless he came up with $500. He didnt have $500 but I did so i paid it. First time for everything. But it came at the cost of the mortgage. So now we have to figure that out. I'm not too stressed because the same jobs he had to double up on support will be the same jobs he can do to finish the mortgage.
The whole thing was just surreal. They kept talking about the welfare of his one child but didnt care what 15 days in jail would do to his other children. I don't know how you can admit in court to dropping child support for dropping joint custody and the judge say she doesnt care. In the end, our goals for the day were met, the show cause was dropped and we got an admission. That much should help when we go back to court at the emd of the month to show why the visitation should be decreased.
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Well, BM sounds like she is a
Well, BM sounds like she is a crappy person, but I am thoroughly confused by your paragraph about why DH isn't working and can't pay. The court only cares about the matter in front of it - the unpaid child support. And that's not tied to visitation, once it's been ordered, BM can't drop it.
BM is one of those who wants control and can't stand to share custody. This won't stop until she gets what she wants, or the court sets limits on her.
DH is with the kids in the
DH is with the kids in the daytime while I work. He was a bar tender/restaurant worker but the tips just wouldnt cover how far he had to go out to get the jobs. He had one job that paid decent but our area recently put up tolls that cost $3 dollars to get across each way which ate in to the money he was making plus having to pay for parking once he got there.
The last official job he had was ok. It was steady but he would go to work everyday, a lot of the time make between 5 to 20 dollars but would 'make it up' n Saturday when he could make about $200. They wanted to make him a manager but it was daytime work so he turned it down. So they would schedule him to work about 15 minutes earlier every week to force him to take the job but he wouldn't bite so they fired him.
I think what was going on was the manager had a buddy he wanted to take DH's job and was going to promote DH. That would be great but DH just couldnt work it. And that job would have paid for child care but now child care AND support.
When he lost that job he started the handy guy business which brings in about the same money.
Sometimes men shouldn't be
Sometimes men shouldn't be left unattended in these matters! I swear they just start talking and don't think about what they are saying.
I am sure you would have had to pay the $500 and jail would have still been threatened- which whoever decided that jail was the place to send people who didn't pay CS has the stupidest logic EVER- Sure lock them up so they can't work and pay it... -- But at least something from the gas company showing the danger he, you and your children were in would have been better than claiming babysitting. Even though, for many families, that is the only way to have both people work, differing shifts.
Daycare is so expensive!! I used to pay $1250/month for my 2. At the time I got a whopping $1300 in CS. I used to get so frustrated thinking that if I quit my job and got on welfare I would be better off. I made "too much" for daycare assistance but not enough for us to have a home, food, car, gas, clothes, etc. Thankfully, my parents were in a place to help for a little while and I was able to become a higher earner fairly soon after, but when my ex and I first split... it was really horrible.
You are so right. I'm sure
You are so right. I'm sure the 'shake down' as going to come one way or the other.
And I've thought about the quitting and getting Gov assistance as well but just cant see myself doing it. It's crazy because its almost like if I were to quit and good paying steady job to stay home so DH could work then that would be what they want. It's crazy.
Your DH can not be playing
I want to start my own business, that doesn’t make money, and not pay CS. He has to get a couple of jobs to pay his CS and back CS first. Then get some money saved up. Before playing I want my own business that doesn’t make Money.
I dont think you quite read
I dont think you quite read what I posted.
Thats just crazy all around
I envision that happening to us though, too, because BOTH Toxic Troll and Feral Eldest have accused DH of being abusive. To both children and spouse. We tread very carefully, and lightly, so as not to set off the courthouse dynamite. DH and I sort of lie low for the most part, or try to.
I do have to commend you for supporting him through all this. Its so hard to watch, and be there, and help clean up messes we did not at all create.
Good luck with that future court date. So nerve wracking!