DH Throwing SD13 the biggest Pity Party
DH is back to being delusional when it comes to SD13. She has been at our house this week (not a scheduled visit, whole other story). Well, DH is working full time and I'm taking care of our DS2.
Anyway, SD13 has been here 6 days. Literally every. single. day. she stays up all hours of the night on her phone and sleeps ALL day. Secluding herself in her room only to make an appearance in the kitchen for junk food.
DH came to me this morning saying he wanted to do a 'family dinner' tonight. Because he feels "so bad she has been locked in her room all week" so he was going to let her pick where we went to eat. I usally bite my tongue, but said,..
Me: Well why hasn't she been hanging out with any of her friends? (My guessing is she is currently having drama with everyone, not unusual).
DH: You can also do something with her too.
Me: We invite her to go to the pool, watch a hockey game, etc. and she always declines. She chooses to not be a part of whatever we are doing and stays in her room.
End of conversation. I thought about it later and should have added that if he wants her to do activities, then either BM or DH should have signed her up for a camp or something. Not my problem!! I do NOT want to sit through a dinner with SD13 pouting and DH feeling sorry because of the choices she makes. Would you go out to eat, or suggest it just be the two of them and stay behind w/ the toddler? THANKS!
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Stay Home
I can fully understand why you would NOT want to attend a nice dinner out with such an individual and that behavior. I know it personally. And when I was still engaged with DHs kids, I had already started opting out of circus time, I mean, meal time events.
You can come up with many "reasons." Baby is fussy, I'm tired, don't feel good, you and SD go have a nice bonding dinner (bleh), etc. Let DH manage HIS kid. Something tells me he wants you there to "help" by saving him from having to deal with his kid ALONE.
Best to you. I hope you enjoy a nice evening at home with your sweet baby.
cut off her internet/wi-fi
cut off her internet/wi-fi and she'll emerge from her den
Have a wicked toothache
Followed by the internet going out suddenly. Block her mac address on the router and let her use her data plan.
Stay home
And enjoy your bio. DH isn't going to take SD to dinner, he will have to talk to her. She should been put in camp or something. Not dumped on you. You know yiu have a much bigger problem. DH..... He has no respect for you.. He still wants SD to be part of his Hapoy Family. Unfortunately that ended with his divorce,
I could have written this myself
This is the exact shit DH says about SD14. He "feels bad she is up in her room all the time". First of all, she is a teen, that's what they do. No one is stopping her from leaving the house and doing any number of activities, she just doesn't want to do them. But he feels guilty. Then dinners are always ruined by her pouting or getting whiny about something. Rinse, repeat. You know how this story ends, I think you have a very bad headache coming on and should probably get some rest and miss dinner.
Life gets immeasurably better
Life gets immeasurably better when we opt out of spending time with unpleasant people. You can make up an excuse, but I'd tell him the truth: she's obnoxious. Enjoy your life.
DH came to me this morning
Good idea, DH. You are going to make her come out of her room and sit down with us at the table to eat. There will be no electronics. Just dinner and discussion.
"Great! And what are you
"Great! And what are you going to cook for us?"
So....your husband hasn't
So....your husband hasn't done sh!t to encourage SD to have hobbies outside of Tik Tok, it doesn't sound like she has been raised to be someone who friends would tolerate, and he hasn't signed her up for any camps or extracurriculars. It sounds like he is just whining so YOU will entertain SD. Don't take the bait. Let him spend one-on-one time with her. Either they will both enjoy it and his guilt will be assuaged, or he will see why nobody wants to hang out with her (if that's the case, idk but just a guess), and maybe DO something about it.
I had this very conversation
I had this very conversation with DH last night because SD14 lays on her bed all day and Tik Toks or watches TV. He said, yeah but what else can we do about it? I said, idk, but there are tons of other things to do, she just needs to be pushed to do them. He said she's "past the age where I can make her go for a walk or go outside to do things...in this day and age you don't just make kids go for a walk", and "that ship has sailed". Eyeroll. I almost said, that's a copout for not making her go do something she doesn't want to do, but I started repeating, "disengage" in my head instead and kept my mouth shut. But I have seen her friends around town ocasionally walking or riding their bike and I said so- DH says they are probably on their way to hang out with each other and SD is not included in that. Sure DH. I said well I guess we will never know, she has somewhat of a chance of encountering people if she is out and about than if she is laying on her bed tik tocking, but ok.
He did go into her room and give her a list of things she could do today, which included following up on different jobs where she might actually get hours, followed by me assigning her tasks or having her plan dinner, but she is still sleeping at 1:45pm.....
At what point
Does a cucumber placed in brine become a pickle? When they are young its "they're just kiiiiiiiiiiiiddddddddsss." So no training then.
When they're older its "It's too late to do anything about it now. "
Soo true. Anything to get out
Soo true. Anything to get out of making kids do things they may not want to do or parent on things they don't really want to parent on.
I'd be suggesting a special
I'd be suggesting a special father-daughter dinner and staying home. He probably wants a "family" dinner so he doesn't have to deal with her on his own.
BINGO
Yes exactly this!
Exactly! DH is quick to want
Exactly! DH is quick to want OTHER people to spend time with SD13, but when the rubber meets the road, he is hesitant to do it himself. Tells me deep down he knows how unpleasant she is. He would just never admit it.
This doesnt get better
SD17 PowerSulk did/does that. I used to insist on "family dinners", which she powersulked through. So now we each do our own thing, and she will slink off at whatever hour, late or otherwise, and its not on me to cook or clean or do anything out of my way.
But, yeah, my new therapy sessions emphasize the power of "no thank you". Just no thank you. "family dinners?" "No thank you".
Acually, Dogmom, having your
Acually, Dogmom, having your SD on her cellphone all night and asleep all day sounds ideal! Beats the heck out of having a pouty teen slouching around, in your face. Rather than trying to jettison the girl from her lair, tell your husband (as per TrueNorth's astute observation): ….. she is a teen, that's what they do….
As far as taking SD out for a family dinner, it’s almost certain that she would prefer to have her stepmother and baby brother elsewhere. From previous posts, it appears that there is no love lost between the two of you. Suggesting to your husband that taking his DD out to dinner would be a good bonding experience makes perfect sense. Remind him that you’re home with her all day (regardless of the fact that you only see her when she’s foraging for snacks) and she needs exclusive time with dad. How can he argue with that?
Agree! My feelings are 100%
Agree! My feelings are 100% NOT hurt if she wants to stay in her room all day. Actually I would prefer it. I only mind about the snacks if she tries to sneak food/dishes up to her room. Otherwise, so be it! She isn't being held captive for goodness sake.
I HATE when they try to twist
I HATE when they try to twist the story to make them the victim. She is not a victim. She is not locked away anywhere. She is living the life she is allowed to live by BM and DH.
I think your response was perfect.
It's what a lot of teenagers
It's what a lot of teenagers do!! They stay in their rooms, laying around, playing on their phone, computer, tablet, whatever, watching tv, and complaining that they're bored. You ask if they want to go somewhere with you, it's a no. My kids are teenagers now and kids in general need to learn how to entertain themselves and quit expecting parents to entertain them. Mine certainly never entertained me. Oh you're bored? Well let me find you something to do. My daughter isn't really like that anymore since she got her license last year. She's got more freedom to hang out with friends and up until a couple of weeks ago she had a job. She's been saving her money so she could afford to go on leave from her job due to marching band season starting. She'll either go back to where she was working or if she isn't able to, then she'll apply somewhere else after marching season is over.
My son is a rookie in marching band now and it just started so they are both occupied with that. It seems to have helped him a lot. He is too tired to be bored. He isn't sleeping all day and staying up all night. He isn't on the computer or watching tv all day. He is getting to see some of his friends and maybe make some new ones. Your husband needs to find something for his daughter to do if he is so worried about her being cooped up. Some kids need that push to get out and do stuff. Go to summer camp, get in an extracurricular, do something. It shouldn't be YOUR problem anyway. He needs to quit trying to make it your problem and be a parent to his own child.
I'd stay at the house with the 2yo and let him go with SD by himself. Why let yourself be subjected to all of that?
My daughter just started band
My daughter just started band camp, too. It definitely keeps them busy! Band has been great for her. She's a senior and in several leadership positions.
My daughter is starting her
My daughter is starting her senior year too. She got section leader and since she's a senior she's also a mentor. Both my kids will be getting initiated by having whipped cream sprayed at them, then they'll get hosed down by the fire department. The rookies and mentors will all get it. I am tempted to go by there and take pictures. I love band! It's been good for my daughter and hopefully my son will love marching too.
That sounds so fun! Kids do
That sounds so fun! Kids do really need something that they like to do with other kids. Even if parents wore themselves out trying to entertain them, it's not the same as a hobby or extracurricular activity. Even a job that they like where they have other kids their age to do it with is better than sitting around on Tik Tok. My daughter totally would spend all day on social media, and i will have to hound her to do chores or look for a job, but she will wake up at the crack of dawn to work her a$$ off in the heat for band, and stay until dark helping out. It's the one thing she does willingly and eagerly.
2yo? Perfect age for a pots
2yo? Perfect age for a pots and pans band session. Everyday just outside of SD's bedroom. Play band camp up and down the hallways. Guaranteed to annoy the F outta her! Lol. Works good for those teenager hangovers too.
Lol! Oh believe me... no pots
Lol! Oh believe me... no pots or pans needed here! His simple existence on this earth annoys her somehow. Probably another reason she "locks" herself up in her room.
Do It!
Sometimes you have to go guerilla warfare for your own sanity. When she complains to daaaaaaaddddeeeeeee, say you have no idea what she's talking about.
I honestly dont understand
I honestly dont understand why these children and parents do these things every single holiday or extended period of time
First of all, its not even her visitation time. Second of all, if he is so concerned with her doing activities, then why doesnt he make an effort? Work is not a good enough excuse to me
My husband used to have the kids sit around on video games all day. I eventually got tired and made them do one activity/day. They hated me for it and did everything in their power to not do anything. Even dropping them off at a youth center to make connections with other kids while playing sports and I would receive a text 10min later to pick them up because of social anxiety!
I just gave up and now they complain that they hate it because its boring. When asked what activities they do at BMs home, its "games" and "friends" (like 1 or 2 because they arent very social) and "gfs" (they are girl crazy)
I was making them do the following
- Learn to cook with me once a week
- youth center for sports and socialization
- pool/waterpark
- library for games and renting a book for each holiday that they never wanted to read
- electronics/stem workshops provided for free by the library
- drop them off at the mall to hang out with friends but instead they would call BM and ask her to pick them up
- movie theater
- painting/arts and craft at home
- daily walks
- museums
They made it so harrowing and difficult with every tasks and had so much of an attitude that I gave up. 2 days ago, they complained about being bored so I told my husband to get up and do something with them. His response "YOU do something with them, im tired after work!". I told him that I have two jobs and im too busy so I guess they will be on their own playing video games all day and facetiming their gfs which is exactly what they want
Do not plan anything for her because she will just ruin it and have a major attitude. Last year my husband spent $1200 to send SS17 and SS15 on vacation to his relatives out of state - huge land, ATVs, water park, etc. Well they were extremely rude to their host and refused any activities outdoors or with the other children. My husbands relative told him that the only reason she didnt smack them was because they arent her children and they arent welcome anymore....All of a sudden, he woke up and realized that his children are rude and weird instead of blaming me about it
Enjoy your summer with your son!! She can stay in her room, she would just be upset if you forced her to do anything outside or in a group and you would be the bad bully!
Yes to the first one!
Yes to the first one! Technically it is still BMs week before their beach trip! DH and BMs lacking of planning and last minute changes do not affect me!
DH paid $250 the first week of summer for SD13 to go on a youth group trip with a local church. She texted DH every day that she wanted to go home and didn't have anyone to talk to. I don't think it has ever crossed DHs mind WHY none of SDs peers want to be friends? She is abrasive, confrontational, and makes downright mean comments only to follow up with "I was just joking!".
But that doesn't fit the pity party narrative for the forever victim... must be everyone else then! *eyeroll*
This is my SD19 to a tee.
This is my SD19 to a tee. Twinsies! She's managed to have a couple of friends every now and then, but once she gets comfortable enough to be herself (ie rude comments disguised as jokes), she loses them.
Yep! Or then when a friend
Yep! Or then when a friend jokes right back at her, it's all of a sudden not funny anymore and feelings are hurt.
Same here
With the Animal Torturer (SD stb 24.5) She was (and probably still is) a mean girl/bully. She would instantly cheat at games when she wasn't winning, steal from you and lie in your face. No consequences from either parent. And that was when she was age 5-9. *Somehow* she never had any lasting friends.
This is my SIL's spawn.
They hate playing games with my DW, SS and me on family camping trips. SIL tells her spawn that we don't play by the same rules that they play by. Ummm. we play by THE rules. Do not allow cheating, etc..
So, our nephew and niece end up slouching to their tent to sniffle and cry that it isn't fair. I make them read the rules, word for word.
I am not particularly popular at IL clan game nights. Win or lose, I enforce the rules. The IL clan adults ignore the kid cheating. I don't. DW doesn't. Our son doesn't.
Teens today didn’t hang
With friends. They text them. SD is in her room on her phone. Texting , Tiktoking. YouTubing And what ever place they go to
What's up with these bio
What's up with these bio parents trying to force bonding times.
Like if they want to cool but if they don't then that's cool too.
If you feel generous ask her what she likes to do then do that with her.
But if you'd rather not then say you're tired etc and encourage him to go with her instead.
Most notably for me is how many Bio-Parents push for bonding
between their failed family progeny and their new spouse but invest nearly no time bonding with their own failed family spawn while on visitation.
Sparents in these types of blended family situations would do themselves a huge service by refusing to bond with SKids if their SO is not fully present and engaged. No SO present, no interface between the SP and the SKid.
SParents are not default child care, beck and call resources for prior breeders and their toxic failed family progeny.