Need advice! This sux...
So, as Munchkin has been advancing towards her teen years, things have gotten more out of whack, after a brief semi-normal period.
I need advice as to how I should approach things. I dont want to push anyone away, and I dont want to be disrespected. I dont know if I am making too much of a little thing, or if my feelings are vidicated. Such a tough line!
My issue: we have 50/50 custody with much in the way of flexibility. I am currently not working (not my choice!) and am busy looking for jobs and trying to lose weight, but my time is extremely available. This is my SOs week, and his HCBM is on her summer vacation, while munchkin just started her vacationing. So, its perfect time for mother-daughter bonding. Why would she want to stay home with me? (forget about the fact that previously during vacations she and I would go on advantures together and her mother just stays in the dark, messy apartment...) . Well, I asked SO this morning what was up with Munchkin, was he dropping her off, he said "I dunno, kiss goodbye". Then I knock on Munchkins door, and wait for her to finish changing, ask her what is up, where is she going, and she sais "well my mom wants to hang out with me, she sais whatever I want is ok".
My response was "great! This is the perfect time for that! Do you need me to drop you off, is she picking you up, what is going on?"
Her response, "um I dunno". So I go for my workout. Gymn is right around the corner, she has her phone, has instructions of no opening door, no cooking, and she is 12, with parental permission to be at home alone short periods of time. An hour later, Im wondering what is going on, and ask her if she is still at home.
Her response: "no my mom just picked me up".
I feel that she has disrespected me because when I am entrusted to her care, I expect that she will let me know when one of her parents is picking her up, or anyone for that matter. I feel that when I am entrusted with her care, that I am extended the same authority (within reason) and the same expectation that I will be notified of any and all pickup of this child. Her staying behind while SO rushes off to work is for his convenience in not having to backtrack and do drop off. Also for BMs convenience in timing when she gets child. Also for childs convenience of whenever, whatever.
Am I wrong in feeling wronged? Yesterday BM and Munchkin SD12 wrre hanging out, I guess at the pool, and I asked when BM would drop her off, and the response a few hours later was "mom had wine and doesnt want to drive, so dad can pick me up..."
BTW - even while not making much money, and being unemployed, I still pay HALF this childs phone bill. And child is hormonal and moody, sleeps a lot, is lethrgic, and was moody with me last night, with attitude, because of something I did or said. I am fuming and want to say something when SO brings her over. Something like, "you'll be dropped off by your father from now on, because you couldnt let me know of anything and your lack of response to my questions and requests for information. In the future, when you are in my care exclusively, you wil need to be better at communication, or you will not be in my care anymore."
Is that too much? Im already not wanting to take her to any locations/play dates because of her lack of appreciation & poor attitude when I did so, prior.
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"Munchkin, I have no problem
"Munchkin, I have no problem with your mom picking you up. However, when I am responsible for you, you HAVE to let me know where you are going before you go. If something were to happen to you, I would feel awful and be responsible. If you keep forgetting, then the flexibility you have to come and go is going to be limited to only when your dad can take you places. Do me the courtesy of telling me when you are going to leave, and I'll continue to show you the courtesy of paying for your phone and letting you stay home by yourself when I am responsible for you."
If she fails to let you know again, take away her phone when she is with you and cart her wherever you have to go. Go to the gym and make her sit in the lobby without a phone for an hour. Make her go grocery shopping. Make her be miserable so she realizes how good she had it.
OR tell your SO he needs to find a sitter for her since she can't follow basic rules that you give her, and you won't be responsible for her if she won't listen to you. If he can't take care of her, she can stay with BM. It will be HIS responsibility to handle her if she won't behave.
Really, she just sounds like an absent-minded preteen, not like she is being blatantly disrespectful (at least, not yet). If she hasn't started her period yet, my guess is that it is coming with the next growth spurt. Lethargy, moodiness, sleeping a lot - all signs that she is probably gearing up to hit puberty full throttle. I'm not saying you should tolerate disrespect, but take the approach of trying to reason with her first before going full-on disengagement.
Brilliant!
In my discussion with Daddy Dearest, I did mention that I would have my own discussion with her, that I wasnt asking for his permission, but that he would need to back me up. That in the future she will not leave the house without notifying me. When I mentioned repercussions such as taking her phone, his response was "well keep in mind you will have an angry kid on your hands if you take away the phone as punishment!" ooooooh so scared! My response was that "shsould the threat of an angry kid dictate what is right and wrong?" THe BM is starting summer work - just got news of this. And has ANOTHER Drs appointment tomorrow.
So yes, she has had her period (which I was there for and helped hr through...) and I think its "growing pains", plus lack of any activity. All she does all day is sit around or lay around on her phone non stop. I know I know - I cannot care more than the parents and if they are ok with it then I should be too...but geeeze. I expected more. Shes forgetful. However this morning when I knocked on the door, and said I needed to talk to her, she blew it off, until I knocked AGAIN.
As to your suggestions on how to present to Munchkin - I am printing that out!!!!!! Will memorize
It's Common Courtesy to let
It's Common Courtesy to let housemates know where you are and when you will be back, even if you are an adult and they are non-family roommates.
general forgetfulness
that might be all that is - I have ss12 and bs11 and there is a lot of forgetfulness around this age - especially with my two absent minded little pedantic professors-to-be.
However, that doesn't mean that the point doesn't still stand and good old telling off is in order. Kids do not, I think can not, understand the parental worry (even if you are a SM) and so, alas, need regular reminders to keep in touch.
Its not even the one incident
Its how SO is reacting to it. She is fine for the most part, its HIM. He is telling me to back off an dont worry about it and go with the flow. And that I am being too much and all that. Im like "isnt this a normal thing, to worry about a child?"
I am going to have to disengage, more because of him than her (at this point).
Like you havent had enough
You finally got Winona out, well by Winonas own choosing (win win for you) and now Munchkin?? Yea I would set the ground rules, follow them. As you eloquently said "should an angry kid dictate what is right and wrong", no they shouldnt. Thats where Disney Dads/or lazy ones go astray. Its far easier to let it go, than deal with an angry spoiled brat.
Follow thru is whats needed most with pre teens.
Disney Dad///
Who doesnt think of himself as a Disney Dad, and he and I are tip-toeing around "angry kid". He told me last night and this morning to "just go with the flow". Last night I got attitude, and mono-syllable answers to questions like "how was your day?" Nothing was done. Oh shes angry with me. ooooh shaking in my shoes