I'm still trying to wrap my head around 5 days of laundry being up in her room. EEEWWWWW!

She is 11? Old enough to do her own laundry I figure. If DH is backing out, you can now step up and buy adult diapers for her. I work in a nursing home, I can suggest brands if you like.

how gross! sd wet until she was 12, and even then she still did once in a while, mostly when mad. she even pissed in cups and left it in her closet for weeks....

my advice would be to not acknowledge it and make her do her laundry.

or

make her feel like shit about it. make fun of her, point out how she does it for attention, the dr's say nothing is wrong with her, ect. call her out on it. make a big deal of it and make her feel like shit. let her friends parents know too.

wow that was mean of me....

Nope,! Send that bag with her when she goes back to her mother!

I see u said she has seen a therapist cause im wondering what things might be like at BM house...their may be somthin terrible goin on!

GAWD!!!! :? :? :? :? i just get so baffled at some of the shit these kids do. Seriously, pissing yourself?!?!?!

It perplexes me at times when I read some of these posts and think about it. I mean not just think, "oh they piss themselves" (or how about the one above that pissed in a cup and left it in the closet) but the WHOLE act of doing it.

I mean really think about it?!?!?! Try to remember as best as you can your mind and body at that age, squatting over a fucking cup and pissing. And then carrying said piss cup over to the closet? Or just sitting in your bed room, doodling, or reading a book, listening to music, and just pissing yourself. Just PURPOSELY relaxing those muscles and......release the piss. All down your legs, to your socks if you are wearing them. Or maybe you just go over to the pile of piss clothes you have proudly built up for 5 days and stand on it and piss. Then just slip your pissy clothes off, and put new on.

Geesus, how FUCKED up in the head do you have to be to do such a vile thing to yourself?!?!?! And don't give me this "broken home" shit, ya know?! For fuck's sake, I had a broken home, all the abuse, a below poverty level, welfare living, as a child. The shit people had that were nescessities were a LUXERY for me. Sometimes not knowing where the next meal was coming from, to if i was gonna have to run out of the house to find a phone and call the cops at 2 a.m.
Mind blowing shit, but never, never, never once in my wildest did i EVER think about doin some of the shit these kids do.

UN-frickin-real!!!!

There needs to be a plastic cover on her mattress under her sheets. She needs to be wearing the adult diapers. She needs to have her room tossed every evening after shower and anything with pee on it she washes.

The only case I had ever heard of with a girl lying and acting so severe with urination was a molestation case on my caseload and even then we still had to recommend the foster parents to not coddle about it and make her use a pad on the bed and wash the clothing (absolutely no embarrassing though, just simple fact of this needs washed).

Even in this case, where there is no obvious reason for this behavior, she is still 11 and I believe embarrassment is the worse thing you can do. It will just lower her self-esteem even more.

There should be absolutely no regard one way or the other. Dad shouldn't punish, have a talking to, lecture, question, or anything. It is simple back to the 4 yr old in time out you do x, and y happens. Pee on clothes, you wash them with no reaction at all from parents (negative attention is still attention). If she goes a day without pissing, I would perhaps be a little warmer, give a little extra positive attention but WITHOUT mentioning that it is because she stayed dry. After a bit, she will pick up on it subconsciously. Dry all day is a happier day.

I also knew this kid that ended up being bipolar and going to massive major low depression with horrible self-esteem and when she started having the invading thoughts in her head, she would do something to cause the adults around her to sneer at her, want to yell at her, and punish her because she felt inside that she really deserved to be punished and unliked. Is there any chance that your SD is suffering from depression? Not interested in hygiene or loss of interest in previously enjoyed activities and so forth? Just a thought, though I know you mentioned she had been to counseling, but part of it is hiding it and lying, too.

I just don't think I could live with that. Some of the women on here and the bodily function issues they have to deal with from their skids - gah! Nope, couldn't do it. I'd rather be alone with my dogs. God I'm so sorry for you, sweetie!

OK, so next time she has a friend over or when you go out with her or to some school function you say "honey, did you remember to bring a change of clothes or your tween diapers just in case you pee on yourself"...IN FRONT OF her friends and EVERYONE...I can assure you that if there is NOTHING wrong with her, that should do the trick.

Diapers, make her do her own laundry and since this is an issue she will likely NOT do her laundry if she hasn't by x amount of time dump her dirty laundry on her while she's in bed.
I'm not being sarcastic, the laundry on my head is exactly what my dad did to get me to do my own laundry (I'd shove it in with their stuff I hate folding laundry and as easy as laundry is I just was lazy) It's ridiculous and her dad should be all over her about this.

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