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Can bm NOT pay medical expenses?

step off already's picture

Since she has joint legal custody and has not consented for glasses, contacts or therapy?

Now, mind you, she also doesn't do things like show up for graduation, plays, teacher conferences, etc but on paper she has joint legal.

Just wondering. This is all knew and we finally have an order for her to pay half of his medical expenses.

(I'm sure the counselor would be more than happy to write the court a letter discussing the many. I ferns she has about ss - if it helps)

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ChiefGrownup's picture

How did you get therapy for kid w/o mom's consent? Ours demanded both parents consent in writing before any one could even whisper the blessed child's name.

Also she refuses to vaccinate them so we would be very interested in how you get medical services for kid with only one parent's sig. Thanks in advance.

step off already's picture

EAsy. Bm doesn't give a flying fuck about her son and hasn't since she left when he was 5. Ss has been I. Dh's care the entire time. Bm doesn't know who his doctor is or who his teacher is.

Therapist was referred by faminy when I was looking for someone for my dd13 to speak with. Me and the Exh met with her and loved her. Months later after dd and therapist developed a nice relationship we asked therapist if she'd be open to seeing ss14 or if there was a conflict. Therapist and dd spoke and dd didn't care and thought ss would benefit from the visits.

Dh and I visited with therapist and they've had a few visits. She is aware if the turmoil caused by bm along with the fact that bm only sees ss eowe and has been drunk many times.

Most doctors/ schools/ friends think I'm the mom because bm is out if the picture and does not bother to involve herself with ss

step off already's picture

Bm wouldn't even fill out financial aid forms for ss to help with private school tuition grants.

ChiefGrownup's picture

You're kidding. We really picked the wrong place.

I was going nuts and no one would send SD to therapy so I announced one day I was going to go for myself, then. So I went to this counselor for the EXPRESS purpose that my SD was not going to therapy. My counselor spent 1/2 the time of every session "reminding" me that her office (many counselors there) could never see SD unless BOTH parents agreed. Got very sick of her taking up my time to tell me that over and over and over and over. Yeah, I GET IT!!!

A few months later, DH and BM are finally ready to drag SD's little patoot to a counselor. When I told my counselor this, she immediately announced that she could certainly not see the girl herself, it would be a conflict. Wouldn't even let me make any kind of appointment on the girl's behalf with someone else. Neither would the intake person when I called the front office. Bio Dad or Mom HAD TO MAKE THE CALL. (all caps cuz I was effin' sick of hearing that)

To cap it all off, after BM and DH did get SD into some appointments, I told my own counselor that SD was finally in therapy herself. Counselor immediately cut me off from talking about SD AT ALL!

Getting SD into therapy was the very reason I came to this chick and paid her all that money -- now I have to stop talking about the kid? to my own counselor?

Needless to say, that was my last appointment with Paranoid Patty. Jeez. Step Off Already, you are giving me great data points that show this lady and her whole institution were off the bell curve, not me.

Thanks very much for this info.

step off already's picture

Sure. Dh and I got ss into "therapy" when we were with kaiser as well. ?in case you're unfamiliar, it's a giant HMO) - they keep all things hush hush from the courts and the counselor a will not share info but they were more than willing to see him.

Now that we are no longer with the HMO, I just found a person in private practice that came highly recommended. We love her. Dd loves her. Ss still thinks it's some type of punishment.

I'd say find someone new.

ChiefGrownup's picture

I know Kaiser.

This was private pay, cash on the barrel head. Private practice place that didn't even accept insurance. You'd think you'd get some pretty good service.

But their utter paranoia about making a single step without having fifty forms filled out and signed by BOTH bio parents was debilitating.

I would love to move her to somewhere else. But it's not up to me and as DH says, it was a monumental task getting her in there already, it would be suicide to try to get her to go to someone new (BM is very obstructionist).

I'm not going anywhere myself anymore. I told DH that StepTalk is my new therapy--absolutely free and UN-EFFING-CENSORED!!!

Gabriels Mom's picture

This is the strangest thing I've ever heard. I just took my SS to the dentist last week for a cleaning and made a follow up appt to fill a cavity. Its DH's insurance. He tells BM his plans and does whatever he wants. She can show up or not. I realize that a lot of you have BM's that would fly off the handle over that kind of thing and cuntalotapus used to until the co parenting counselor (BM was ranting about not knowing about the orthodontic evaluation appt-DH had proof he told her 3 weeks prior to the appt and reminded her the evening before)told her that DH's reasons for doing XYZ were valid, he informed her of appts in advance, and reminded her of the appts, the fact that she didn't go is her problem.

ChiefGrownup's picture

Is this comment directed at me, Gabriel's Mom? If so, I appreciate getting another story about how crazy Paranoid Patty was. She made US paranoid about me trying to help out vis a vis other professionals the kids have to see.

I don't mind doing it at all and in our family it is often more convenient for me to at least make the calls but we went through such hell with this place we have never even tried with the dentist, etc.

step off already's picture

Sure. It is recent and this will be the first request. Just want to make sure we are doing our part in asking. I'd be willing to take bets that she will raise a stink and won't pay.

What's an appropriate amount if time to allow her not to pay after requesting? Six?

misSTEP's picture

My DH had joint legal custody as well and the judge still expected HIM to pay 1/2 of the inflated medical bills even though BM NEVER consulted him before taking skids to the doctor (and the second doc oh and get a THIRD opinion on that please...).

At least in our state, unless it specifically said that one parent had to get the other parent's agreement before treatment, the other parent is still on the hook for whatever percentage the courts deem fair.

But then again, BM refused to pay DH money she owed him. He had to subtract it from his 1/2 of those exorbitant medical bills.