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kkeister's picture

Hi! I have a 3 year old step son that we are having a really hard time with and I'm looking for some opinions/advice. Some background.. My husband and I have 5 children together, 2 each from previous marriages and one together. Ages from 5 months to 10 years. In general, all the kids get along great. The girls are BFFs who adore the new baby, and the boys are close.. but of course boys The problem though is the 3 year old temper tantrums that are effecting the whole family. Now I know tantrums are normal.. but I'm talking 45 minutes fits, anywhere from 1 - 5 times a day. It's exhausting for all of us, and often times we're not able to finish family activities because the 3 year old has to be removed from the group because he won't stop screaming. And when I say screaming.. I mean top of the lungs, head thrown back, possibly flopping around on the floor, and it could be over just about anything. You tell him to eat, he screams. You tell him to brush his teeth he screams. Bed time.. 45 minute fit that keeps the other kids up, and usually wakes up the baby. I've even watched him chase his father around the house clinging and pulling on his pants because he wants.. whatever it is he wants at the moment. My husband and I have been living together for about a year and a half now, and this has been going on the entire time. We've tried different methods.. primarily time outs, followed by a "talk" about why he had the time out. We've also tried rewarding good behavior, ignoring the fits, and distraction (depending on the reason for the fit). At this point, I am at wits end. I love my husband, and I love the kids.. but I am exhausted (especially now with the infant). Not only am I exhausted, I'm really having a hard time standing by and seeing how the 3 year old's behavior effects the rest of the kids (and my husband and I). My 5 year old son has started acting out, my 10 year daughter gets stressed listening to the screaming and ends up staying in her bedroom. Both of these changes are a complete contrast to how our home was before we blended. Now.. months and months into this.. my step daughter, who is 8, came to me recently expressing some concern with what the biological mom is doing at her house to punish the 3 year old. My step daughter said she doesn't like it and it upsets her (to which I had no idea how to respond). But apparently the mom is pinching her son on the thigh or spanking him with a wooden spoon as punishment when he throws the fits. Of course, neither of those things are working as he continues to throw fits at her house too.. but that aside, they are a completely different approaches than what we're doing. Bottom line, I feel bad for my step son, who is clearly getting different parenting styles, which I imagine is confusing.. and I feel bad for my step daughter.. who I don't know how to help feel better about what's going on at her mom's house. However.. I need to focus on my home.. and getting things in line there. I haven't said much about my husband.. but the short of it is he's just as frustrated. He's the one primarily disciplining his son when he's with us and it takes a toll on him. Throw in the fact that the only time he and I get together is when all of the kids are home (and the 3 year old is screaming all day).. our marriage is starting to suffer. My husband recently reached out to his ex-wife, asking if she could try some other methods instead of the pinching and wooden spoon (or least try to come up with something they both agree on).. to which her response was "You do what you feel is best, and I'll do what I feel is best". Needless to say.. I feel hopeless. Soo.... let me have it.. thoughts? ideas? suggestions? I'll even take some criticism if it sounds as though we need to fix something within parenting somewhere..

kkeister's picture

Hi - thank you for your reply! The family's response is usually to walk away from him. If we're in a store, we usually walk away and go about our shopping. If it continues too long, my husband takes him out to the car while the rest of us finish what we're doing. Dinner time, everyone finishes up and then leave the table, which leaves the 3 year old at the table alone. And then the fit goes on even longer because he doesn't want to sit alone. We can certainly try to ear plugs, thank you for that suggestion Smile

moeilijk's picture

There are a huge range of parenting options out there. So it's searching for that ever-shifting target of a strategy that balances the needs of the entire family with the needs of the kid showing difficult behaviour.

First, I'd try to figure out the situations in which you see the tantrums. Is the kid hungry, tired, over-stimulated, holding in a pee or a poop, waking up from a nap or has just watched television/electronics? Is it a certain time of day? Are there a lot of changes happening (like, is it once he's been at your place for 12 hours - long enough that it's not just a 'visit' so that the change could be stressful)?

With my own kid, some of those combined create a perfect storm of emotional drama. Maybe that's true for your SS too.

Second, I'd try to figure out what need your SS is trying to meet. Is he looking for attention? For control? Is he angry? Feeling ashamed?

For my DD, if she's otherwise feeling not-so-great (overtired, or hungry, let's say) AND she pees her pants (she's 2), then she has been known to tantrum about that.

Third, I'd decide what my goal is for the tantrums. And here I think you have to choose your focus. I don't think you can address all of 1. teaching the kid to understand and manage his emotions AND 2. stopping the disruptive tantrum behaviour AND 3. getting through the activity that prompted the tantrum. As in, if you're out grocery shopping, you have to decide if you're going to stop shopping and coach the kid through the tantrum, or if you're going to use some aggression to try to get the kid to stop yelling, or if you're going to ignore the tantrum and finish the shopping trip, because you can't do all three at once.

For myself, I focus on teaching DD to understand and manage her emotions. She does tantrum from time to time but in general I do not find it disruptive. Although she is an only child, so that's a big factor. There are some techniques that I use, such as using playing to teach a lesson, to talk about feelings and behaviour and consequences. In general, I'm very happy with DD's emotional maturity. Maybe I'm lucky, maybe what I do works, who knows!

kkeister's picture

Thank you! We have been ignoring the tantrums for awhile now, but that's when he starts chasing my husband around and pulling on his pants. If my husband sits down, he'll start crawling all over him, kicking. Before the ignoring, we were putting him in time outs. But he would get up dozens of times, and we'd silently put him back. Just never seemed like it was working, so we started ignoring about a month ago. Part of the problem with that though is we only have them every other weekend, so he goes a long period of time getting a different response from his mother while he's there. We'll continue to ignore though! And just keep our fingers crossed.. lol.

moeilijk's picture

Came to post this: Again, look to your values. If you value getting results over getting along, then leaving the 3 year old to solve his own problems without help will eventually work. That wouldn't fly in my value system, but to each his own.

LikeMinded's picture

We have one child who had tantrums up until age 7. Nothing worked. We tried everything (except corporal punishment). I'm so glad because it turns out our child has Aspergers. I'd recommend a developmental pediatrician's examination.

Last In Line's picture

First, do NOT walk off and leave your child tantruming in the middle of a public place. That is unsafe, and incredibly rude to the other people around. I certainly don't want to listen to your child scream when I'm out shopping or trying to eat. Pick him up off the floor and tote his butt to the car--he can scream in there while you ignore him.

Home incidents--put him in his room, shut the door, and ignore.

Also, having had a tantrum throwing child, check his diet. Turns out there were a very few trigger foods that set my kid off. We eliminated those, and the tantrums almost completely stopped. And these were tantrums that were so bad he would make himself vomit.

LuckyGirl's picture

Am I the only one who picked up that the mother is PINCHING and using a WOODEN SPOON on a 3-year-old??? If this was my child I would have her ass for that. The least your DH should do is talk to her about it.

I would also get the child assessed, frequent screaming tantrums that last so long can signal a developmental problem.

Otherwise - give it time and firm discipline, eventually he will grow up a Little.