Should I refuse to allow my stepson to come over until his mom offers my an apology?
My stepson is a handful and long story short, I ended his summer vacation with us early as a result of his behavior and expressed my concerns with his mom.
His mom took my comments as an attack, which they were not, and as a result she made some rude comments about me.
I told my husband that since she feels that way, then her son will no longer be allowed into our home. If she wishes for her son to stay the night or better yet come into our home, then she will need to apologize for her comments to me.
My husband thinks I am being unreasonable and should just ignore her, but I think differently.
Personally, I am just tired of being her verbal punching bag, when I am the woman who cares for her son when he is in our home. I cook his meals and do activities with him, so why is it ok for his mom to call me names and say hurtful things.
I explained to my husband that the son will think it is ok for him to speak to me in a mean matter, since his mom does it and its fine.
My point is not to keep the son away, I just want some respect. It is not ok to be treated this way, when I do so much.
I'm confused, you are the SM
I'm confused, you are the SM and you expressed concerns about your SS to BM? Then you told your DH that his son couldn't come back to your home until BM apologized?
Koroma, unfortunately, this
Koroma,
unfortunately, this is the plight of the stepmother. All the grunt work and none of the glory. I don't think that you should take out your frustrations on SS. Try and learn to ignore BMs antics.
As far as SS's behavior goes, that's sounds like something that needs to be handled in-house. If he is acting out when he is at your house, it needs to handled at your house. If he's acting out at BM's, let her handle it her way.
You can make whatever rules you like at YOUR house, but you and DH HAVE to be ont he same page and present a united front.
I don't think it's fair to
I don't think it's fair to punish the child for the bio moms words. I'm sorry but I think your husband is right here, you can't control how she thinks/feels about you by punishing the son/father by controlling their time together.
You can insist your SS respect you and treat you well in your home, but IMO you don't have the right to deny visitation between the two-especially when it's about what the BM's thoughts are. Big overstep IMO.
Although a little harsh, I am
Although a little harsh, I am with SpunkiDoolittle on this one.
It is the crappiest part about being a stepparent.
HOWEVER, your home has rules. Your husband and yourself need to cooperate with each other.
Good luck!
Do you have SS every other
Do you have SS every other week or just every other weekend? First off...If I was BM, I would have let you have it for telling me my son has issues. That would be the boys fathers job.
Your DH needs to be the one to control SS in your house. NOT BM.
PS, if my spouse told me that my kid could not come to my house because of his other parent, I would have told spouse to take a hike.
I agree...I guess I missed
I agree...I guess I missed that part-but yet ANOTHER huge overstep was addressing your concerns with the biomom-how is that your place?? I really feel you are overstepping in several directions here.
I completely agree. I'm
I completely agree. I'm picturing myself telling my DH that SDs can't come over because BM is a hag and was nasty to me. I'm guessing my bags would be on the porch PDQ. LOL
I don't think you have the
I don't think you have the right to ban him from your house unless he's a danger. This is dh's house too and ss is HIS kid. You don't have a right to forbid him from coming. In fact, it could get dh in trouble. Is his visitation court ordered? By banning ss and preventing the visitation from occuring you are going against court orders. Explain that to a judge, "sorry your honor, I never got an apology." Now obviously things need to be worked out between the adults but banning the child from his father is not the right thing.
You can't ban him from the
You can't ban him from the house for something BM did. That is not fair. Also, you should not have any conversations with BM. That is what usually causes the problems. Let DH deal with her. As for disrespect to you in your home, that is something you husband addresses with SS. Not with BM. You don't have to take it, but their isn't much that will happen if your husband isn't on the same page. You will continue to beat your head against the wall.
Keep all contact with BM with DH. Not you. Things will be much easier if you never talk to her. Let the apology go, you will never get it and I don't think that is what matters here.
as much as i would like to
as much as i would like to agree.... and also ban my skids from my house.. it's not an option... sorry...
but you can demand respect in your home.. would help if dh would back you up.... just rise above bm's juvenile tactics.... remember "sticks & stones...."
and have a glass (or more) of your favorite beverage..
Agreed!
Agreed!
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!! You
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!!! You should not refuse to allow your skid to visit HIS FATHER'S HOME!! Yes, it is your home too, however the home is as much your DHs as yours and the manipulation you are attempting to play could very well end in the demise of your marriage.
I am the custodial StepParent in our blended family. I would not even attempt what you are doing. My wife and I agreed long ago that our marriage was our priority but that we would raise our son (my SS) together. However, if I attempted to do what you are doing to your DH I would fully expect that my key would not work the next time I came home from work.
If I were a BioParent with an XW and my second wife tried what you are trying I would be looking for wife #3. Not that I would put the child before my spouse, however, I would not tolerate the manipulation that you are perpetrating.
You are denying your husband time with his child because you are mad at the BM????? You are taking this out on a child because you are mad at the child's mother???????
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If your Skid speaks to you in a less than respectful manner in your home, punish him immediately.
I would not attempt to drag an appology out of a BM who is likely incapable of recognizing the need for an appology much less being adult enough to offer one.
I understand your hurt and frustration but I think you are missing the direction where your punishment is going. You are punnishing the child and playing directly in to the BMs manipulations.
IMHO of course.
Good luck and best regards,
Maybe have your H grow some
Maybe have your H grow some balls and tell the psycho to piss off. Sorry, but psycho BM needs to be put in her place. We started to back off on visitation because my ex was being a pain in the A$$ and I was not going to let her ruin what ever time I have with my kids. I hope she finally gets the message that she needs to back off . I know my kids don't like it, but, if she sees that they want to spend time with me, maybe she will back down.
Agree, I will not refuse the
Agree, I will not refuse the ss from visiting with his father in our home. I just wish I could have a little respect. My husband does not have the balls to punish him and when I step in, the ss begins to verbally attack me....with words he heard from his mom. So, the BM talks bad about me in front of the ss and he comes to our home with that language.
My only point is, if the mom showed me more respect then my ss would show me more respect.
I am just tired of being the bad guy, when I go above and beyond.
"if the mom showed me more
"if the mom showed me more respect then my ss would show me more respect." true-er words were never spoken.
Unfortunately the number of BioParents who would speak with respect of their blended family couterpart is limited. No more limited than the StepParent who would speak of the their bio counterpart with respect.
But, we can all home ... at least for the Skid's sakes.
agree 100%... bm trash
agree 100%... bm trash talked me big time in the beginning and i kept my comments to myself about her in skids presence... a few years of the bad talking and skids both said one day "mom doesn't talk as bad about you as she used to"
for whatever that's worth....
quit going above and beyond
quit going above and beyond and be stone faced when the disrespectful brat shows up and don't acknowledge him when he speaks rudely to you! turn up the stereo or vacuum!
I agree 100% I also act like
I agree 100% I also act like a mom to my sd and I would'nt like it if her or her mom disrespected me... your husband better man up and tell his x that you do so much for their son and she needs to be thankfull for that!!!
Your husband's ex-wife
Your husband's ex-wife doesn't owe you an apology. She doesn't owe you anything at all. She didn't have a child with you. And she is under no obligation to co-parent with you. You overstepped when you went to her with your concerns.
I'm not suggesting that your concerns aren't completely valid. But you should have discussed them with your husband and allowed him to deal with his ex.
M25, I disagree that the DH's
M25,
I disagree that the DH's XW owes SM nothing. She absolutely owes SM the respect owed to any adult who approaches another with a valid concern. Now BM owes SM an appology for the trash talk she perpetrated against SM in front of the Skids.
That said, an Sparent owes the opposition bio parent the same respect .... until it is time to not be nice when the other party gets snarky.
Once someone opens a can of Snark, all bets are off.
IMHO of course.
I don't agree with that,
I don't agree with that, Rags. I think in a perfect world people should respect each other. But we certainly don't owe anyone respect.
She shouldn't have contacted BM with her concerns. Her DH should have.
And I say that as a stepmother who has made that mistake. My husband's ex won't communicate with me about anything. And she doesn't have to. We have custody and my husband is away a lot, so her refusal to work with me makes things difficult. But she is well within her rights to request that communication remain between my DH and she.
Again, it's great if mom and stepmom can work together. I have a great relationship with my ex-husband's wife. She is wonderful! I couldn't have picked a better "other mother" to my kids. But if I didn't want that relationship, I certainly wouldn't owe it to her.
I understand what you are saying. I really do. But I've worked in family law long enough to know that 99.9% of the problems we see are caused by ex-wives and/or stepmoms. We just do not do a very good job of remaining calm and objective when dealing with "the other woman". Men are generally much better at that.
I can and do agree that the
I can and do agree that the OP could have avoided some of the issues by having her DH have the discussion with the BM.
However, I think common decency would dictate that BM should have listened and acted as an adult regarding SM's concerns rather than ranting to the kids about the SM.
IMHO of course.
Your comment that 99.9% of the problems you see in family law are caused by XWs and SMs is very interesting. Why do you think it is that more of the issues are caused by the XWs and SMs rather than the XHs and S-Dads?
You need to write a book about your adventures in family law.
I would buy it.
Just make it really thick so it can be used to smack some sense in the blended family opposition.
I am serious that you should write a book.
A book about blended family relationships by a family law professional with the perspective of both a BM and an SM that is dealing with both step kids with a BM and biokids with both a DH and an XH and having to deal with your own children's SM.
Wow, if you were a StepKid you would have every angle of the female blended family palette covered.
You live the blended family thing every day in your personal life and deal with it every work day in your professional life.
You are a treasure.
Best regards,
Not a treasure. A mess for
Not a treasure. A mess for years and years! And still a work in progress!
Why do I think it's the women? No idea! But I'll tell you this...My secretary and I used to joke about who would get shot first, me or her. Her desk was in the front of our office. But my office was in the back and there was a back door that was never locked. I never worried about the criminal law clients, even the ones accused of violent crimes. But the family law clients...specifically the women, sometimes terrified me the amount and intensity of their anger.
Awesome! I have a B.S. in
Awesome! I have a B.S. in Law/Legal Studies. I'm going back to school to take some more Alternative Dispute Resolution Classes. I absolutely love it! I originally was going to go on to law school. But I found that I liked working as a paralegal! You get way more face time with clients. Attorneys focus on winning cases. I get to focus on helping clients.
Good Luck! Let me know if I can help!
Maux, My opinion is that
Maux,
My opinion is that basic human respect goes to only those who deserve it. Anyone who is not accountable for their own actions gets nothing including respect IMHO.
Of course people who are incapable of being accountable for themselves due to physical or mental health issues are to be respected and cared for.
Anyone else ..... has to earn it.
Again, IMHO.
Best regards,
agree with rags!
agree with rags!
I struggle with this - if the
I struggle with this - if the stepmom is good enough to care for the child, why is she not allowed to speak directly to the BM. I thought they were supposed to try to work together if possible? in theory anyway
I think to say the stepmom has no right to speak about a child in their care to that child's mom, is completely disrespectful to the step.
The only thing that 'rule' does is protect the BM from a response to the message they are apparently sending over via the child, 'ok to abuse non-custodial parent or step parent'? so they only have to answer the former spouse they are already divorced from, so maybe are used to getting around?
There are plenty on here who do not allow their stepchild in their house after things get bad enough, or set limits to visits, so (usually its) the dad goes to meet with the child somewhere else.
I don't want to talk to our BM, she is nuts but there are things she has said to me that make me not want to do things for my SD19, my decision being a direct result of BM insulting me - so refusal is a two-way street. Typical double standard. It is her own child she is actually hurting.
So if it is a rational BM, an apology to the stepmom would be completely worth it, if BM wants her child to get all it can from the relationship with the step. If the BM wants there to be problems, she will refuse to apologize, imo.
I don't think it has anything
I don't think it has anything to do with the stepmom not being good enough to talk with BM. It's about expectations. We are custodial. My stepkids are with me every single day. I make 99% of the parenting decisions because I am the mother in this house. BUT..the only reason I have that authority is because my husband gives it to me.
My husband's ex-wife didn't chose me. She married and had children with my husband. She is obligated to co-parent with him, not me. My opinion matters, and my voice counts...but only because my husband chooses to include me.