Exhausted by family issues.
Hello, I am new to this forum and am hoping to gain a different perspective on the issues we face, so that we might move on from the discord we face right now.
Our family unit consists of my older two children (age 14 and 16-boy and girl), my husband-who is step dad to my older two. And our youngest son age 10 months.
My older two children's father has never been around, conducting a relationship with them by phone only (he has seen them about 3 times in the last 10 years). We divorced when they were very young due to his alcohol problems, so up until 3 years ago I brought them up on my own. I met my husband about three years ago and we married and had our youngest son. My husband suffers from a number of anxiety related issues connected to his own childhood. When we first got together my children were 13 and 11, things were fine. He engaged with them and for the first year there was happiness and laughing with us all. The children would go shopping with him, chat with him and generally engage with him. When our son came along it triggered a lot of confidence issues with my husband and he started having mood swings and days of anxiety, panic and paranoia. This impacted on everyone in the house and coincided with my daughter turning into a teenager. As time went by she started to ignore him and not even engage in conversation. When our son was a few months old it blew up one day, I got to the point where I couldn't stand the mood swings any longer and also coping with a newborn I believe my ability to try to understand was limited. I asked him to leave and in the heated argument he shouted at my daughter and blamed her for all the discord in the house. At this point he sought some help and went to the doctors about the mood swings, anxiety etc. He went on to have cognitive behavioural therapy to help him manage the anxiety. He seemed to be handling things better and he moved back into the family home.
For my part I have tried to help my husband through the issues he face and also I have talked to my daughter about her feelings towards him. She doesn't like him much and admits she has nothing in common with him, but she is civil when he talks to her and for the most part she keeps out of his way and vice versa. Its got to the point now that when she is in the room my husband will not come in, and as soon as he does she leaves and goes to her room. His relationship with my son is better, they talk about a mutual love of computer games.
I just don't know what to do to resolve the issue, my husband wants us all to sit round the table and talk about it, but we have done that before and encountered silence (in a teenager sort of way). I am stuck in the middle, I feel my husband should not take the issue with my daughter to heart as I believe her outlook will change as she comes out of her teenage years. he however wants things in the house to be 'perfect' and will push the issue often, all of our arguments are about my daughter. Every time we argue about it I feel resentment towards my husband and these cycles of mood swings become exhausting. We have a few good days, then something happens (like she comes in the room and doesn't say good morning to him or hello or goodnight whatever) his mood drops and we start the cycle all over again. Each time it happens I feel I am just repeating myself and we go over the same things, i'm feeling torn between my husband and my daughter and i'm trying to see things from both perspective. her point of view that she has very little trust in a father figure, is under stress with her GCSE's and is basically a teenager with hormones. His point of view that he feels not liked by someone in his own home and is dealing with separate issues of anxiety and paranoia.
I feel like I am being pushed to choose between them, and that its unfair for my husband to ask me to understand and listen when the 'problem' is my own daughter. Personally I think they are both as bad as each other and therefore how do I split myself?
I don't feel you have enough
I don't feel you have enough information from my post to call my daughter a bratty teen, and have stereotyped quite heavily. She is civil and polite, she does answer him when he talks to her. I have stated I have sat down with her and talked to her about it, in fact I also said we have all tried to mediate but it wasn't successful. He will settle for nothing less than a father/daughter relationship a relationship that she doesn't want. I cant make her like him? The problem is that both of them do not chat easily with one another, they are not friends and their relationship has deteriorated since my husband had a mini breakdown when our son was born. So to blame my daughter wholly for this is not fair.
He has some very deep issues that he has had all his life (I have known him all my life) and these issues affect everyone around him. I am trying to help him through all of this as he is facing up to them, which hasn't been easy for him to do. However, my daughter is a trigger for his anxiety to the point where she only has to walk into the room for him to get anxious. She did not make him this way, he is using her as an anchor for his anxiety that he has suffered from all his life.
Having said all that I DO recognise my daughter needs to adapt too. I have explained to her that regardless of her feelings towards my husband that he is my husband, I love him and he is here to stay. I love my kids too, they know that, and that I also have a life too. She knows all this, and this is why she is able to conduct herself in a civil manner around him. To be fair it works both ways as I stated.
Sorry, but it sounds like the
Sorry, but it sounds like the guy has mental issues. I'm damn near 50 (48 tomorrow ) and I wouldn't want to live with him. Unfortunately, the kid is stuck.
I could not be a with a
I could not be a with a man-baby who this kind of crushing mental illness. How does he even work if he can't manage a typical moody teen?
I was a single parent to my
I was a single parent to my older two for 10 years for the simple reason they come first, and when I met my husband things were good between him and my kids. Yes, he has anxiety issues-but they didn't effect the children at all and I don't think someone should be disregarded because they have an illness-mental or not.
The issues came about when we had our son, who is 10 months old now. My husbands confidence slipped and it resulted in him having a mini breakdown. During that time he became controlling in a bid to feel secure, nit picking about small things like shoes not being put away, or a coat not hung up. Walls of silence when his routine was broken, him feeling stress when something didn't come up to his expectations. When this was happening my daughter was the most apathetic towards him, and even though we have talked as a family about the issues their relationship has not improved.
My husband is not a bad man he just has anxiety issues, in fact he is one of the most caring and generous people I know. In a way its because he is trying to care too much that these problems have arisen. She does not want a father figure (yes she has her own issues surrounding her own father).
I dont want to fix my husband nor turn him into anything he is not as apart from this issue our marriage is good, what I do want to do is try to see things objectively, its really hard when two people you love are in discord and you are the centre point for their frustrations.
you are completely wrong and
you are completely wrong and making up a big part of this story based on YOUR experience. Why is it so hard to accept that my daughter is not conversing with her step dad but being polite and my husband is beating himself up about it because of his anxiety. thats it, there is no more. Not everything has to be a drama! I came on here trying to be objective without taking sides to see if I could find perspectives from others who may have gone through the same thing and worked through it-so far ive been accused of not giving a shit about my daughter, defending my probable peodophile husband and caring more about men than my children! And, i have been calm and not reacted to any of it, but whoah....
We argue about his refusal to
We argue about his refusal to see that he cant build a relationship with her just yet, and we go round in circles and it exhausts me. She keeps her distance and is civil, there is no friendship there which upsets him. Her counselling started way before my husband came into our lives, and as I said before its issues with her dad that prompted it. He is an alcoholic and has had limited involvement in her life, its hit her hard that she never had any involvement with him as she remembers him being in the family home.
In all fairness, we all are
In all fairness, we all are here because of skids ' issues /discord. I readily admit that my DD has caused discord in my life. But, I don't expect her to meet my emotional needs.
Oh, and I love you both!
TBH, I'm not blaming the skid
TBH, I'm not blaming the skid whatsoever. I'm holding the OP responsible.
Not that it matters. It just seems that the OP is here to blame DH, rather than invest in change. Oh well, road less travelled.
Thank you, you hit the nail
Thank you, you hit the nail on the head.
As someone who was molested
As someone who was molested by my SD and not believed, i will say that that is exactly the behavior of my SD. I am not projecting here.
And I have a DD 15 that can drive me crazy. I dislike bratty, entitled kids/teenagers. I am just saying OP needs to be vigilant here.
wow! There is no middle
wow! There is no middle ground is there!
I have known him all my life in that we grew up as kids together, then in adult life from afar. My two older children did not meet him (apart from in passing through the years) until we got together 3 years ago. My daughter is 16 my middle son is 14 and my youngest is 10 months old.
My husband has a job, he also has two well adjusted children from a previous marriage who live with their mother.
My son gets on with my husband
My daughter doesnt.
I am not thinking of myself, I am thinking of my family as a whole-all three of my children and my husband
I am not favouring either of them, as I said in my first post they are as bad as each other and both have issues relating to their own life experience.
The problem is that they are not on each others wavelength-because of this and what arises from this there are issues on both sides.
My husband has anxiety that has been diagnosed, nothing more. please please research anxiety its not always what you think (its self destructive rather abusive)
My daughter has issues with her father that she is getting help with.
I am here because I CARE about my daughter-and yes my whole family looking for advice.
How is your DD getting help?
How is your DD getting help? I almost always see posts and think skids are the "problem". Your post troubles me since things changed suddenly and your DH is blame shifting instead of being personally accountable. And it just happens that the one singled out is vulnerable as you stated she has daddy issues.
Please be vigilant.
Middle of third paragraph in
Middle of third paragraph in original post she says DH yelled at SD that she was to blame for all the discord. It's great that he's getting mental health but his expectations that it has to be a hunky dory Stepfather and DD relationship is unrealistic.
OP hasn't given any examples where DD is actively antagonizing DH. And yet, DD is being singled out. I can't imagine DS is perfect but no complaints about him by DH.
Personally, if I was the DD, I would try to avoid interaction with someone that accused me of being the problem.
I don't see her glossing over
I don't see her glossing over her DD'S behavior. OP gives examples of what DD does that DH complains about. Why is DD responsible for DH'S mental stability?
No, my posts have not
No, my posts have not changed. But i feel I have to defend him not against my daughter but against some of the surmising posts here-many have him hung drawn and quartered before even considering the whole story (its impossible to state every little thing here). Like I keep saying, my husband suffers with anxiety-it magnified when we had our 10 month old and yes it effected us all as any illness would whether mental or physical. It affected my daughter most who has issues of her own. She has been seen by the school counsellor with regards to her father, and of course both of us have worked through it together.
No, my posts have not
No, my posts have not changed. But i feel I have to defend him not against my daughter but against some of the surmising posts here-many have him hung drawn and quartered before even considering the whole story (its impossible to state every little thing here). Like I keep saying, my husband suffers with anxiety-it magnified when we had our 10 month old and yes it effected us all as any illness would whether mental or physical. It affected my daughter most who has issues of her own. She has been seen by the school counsellor with regards to her father, and of course both of us have worked through it together.
Spot on LF.
Spot on LF.
Yes he is still in therapy,
Yes he is still in therapy, for issues relating to his own childhood (no there was no abuse). He is receiving help to deal with panic attacks, anxiety and paranoia resulting from anxiety. They have touched on the subject of my daughter. This is ongoing. From where i'm sitting he is allowing my daughter's normal teenager behaviour to effect him personally, like he is responsible for being a father figure to her and failing. Like I said anxiety is very self destructive, and because of that of course it affects everyone because its TIRING watching someone struggle with confidence. If you have low confidence and are anxious you try harder to get things right and ultimately push away that which you are trying hard to conserve. He does not display anger or violence.
With regards to my daughter, she is improving her relationship with her father (which could be another reason she is rejecting my husband?), things are working slowly. We have a good relationship, we do things together when we can, she adores her little brother and has a good relationship with him. My middle son is unaffected by any of this and is content in his life.
Pickles, I am not trying to
Pickles, I am not trying to quarter your DH. You get a lot different perspectives here which is usually helpful to most
From what you have posted, I see alienation by your DH. There are warning signs to some of us because of our experiences. I HATE talking about what happened to me by my SD. I am only sharing it because feel compelled to tell you there are red flags here.
Sorry I missed some of the
Sorry I missed some of the questions here; he was nit picky with my son too (he never treated them any different), my son took it on the chin. My daughter didnt accept it-for which we have had chats about. My husband apologised to her when we did the mediation talk around the table. My son is no angel, in fact he is hard work as he is autistic but he has a good relationship with my husband as they have things in common. As for the baby, he is a great dad to him and looks after him for half the week while I am at university, then he works for the rest of the week.
Holy projection and
Holy projection and catastrophizing batman!
I was also molested by my stepdad, for years, and that situation and his demeanour and behaviours are so far from this stepdad's that.... well, you know. I don't offer this information to state that the circumstances of my situation dictate the circumstances of all situations, but to simply counter the information provided by others in this thread.
In my opinion, I would:
- Encourage your husband to work through his anxiety with meds and therapy. He needs to understand that this situation with your daughter will never be "perfect" and it's not his fault. It's no one's fault, it's how the cards landed.
- Get your daughter to a proper therapist to deal with her dad and stepdad issues. It's really important that she works through this for her future.
It's not uncommon for a teen and a parent / stepparent to not related during the teen years. I really think that your DH is making this more dramatic than it needs to be.
Thank you for your advice
Thank you for your advice DPW, its appreciated. I came here looking for a bit of advice from people who may have been able to resolve issues of a merged family similar to my situation, its not easy for anyone involved no matter what age the kids are, but I think in particular the teenage years are quite hard anyway!
From this thread I take that I need to concentrate more on my daughter, we are close and do talk about lot of things. I'm aware with a 10 month old its easy to spread myself too thinly. I will find a non school therapist and take it from there. And of course my husband is actively getting help for his anxiety, but I am only human-sometimes it falls heavily on my shoulders.
Thank you for all your replies.
Ok, I can't read through all
Ok, I can't read through all the replies because they're so polarized.
Sounds to me like there's a lot that's being swept under the table.
If you are planning to parent your daughter and be a strong partner to your husband, you have to behave in a mature and planful fashion. That means looking forward and addressing problems in the now so that the future remains bright.
Your teenage daughter needs to be taught good manners. Is there any validity to your husband's complaints about your daughter's rude behaviour, or is he just making things up to complain about? Because if someone walked out of a room because I came into it, I'd find that rude, not civil at all. But maybe you are choosing to not fight that battle with her because you have other parenting issues you're focused on. Which, if your husband was her father, he might either support you on or address this aspect of parenting himself. However, since he is not her parent, you're essentially telling him that his wishes about how the people in his family and home treat him are not important. If I were a guest in your home, and you allowed your family to treat me that way, I would leave as soon as possible and not return. Especially if I was so shocked/hurt/angered by it that I talked to you and asked you to address it. So I think you are failing your daughter by letting her fail to be a positive contribution because she doesn't 'like' someone. And I think you are failing your husband by choosing to dismiss his feelings because you have other priorities, or because you think his problems are his mental health issues (which from what you describe could be anything to a minor burnout to a major personality disorder for which CBT will not do much). I personally would not stick around long if my partner showed me so little respect.
It really doesn't matter how 'wrong' your daughter or your husband is, or even how wrong you are. All that matters is whether you plan to spend your energy placing blame or making changes.
Fruitsalad thats exactly how
Fruitsalad thats exactly how it is
I'm interested in responding
I'm interested in responding to your comment, but there's a lot of heat in what you said so please tone it down to have a discussion because I'm not really interested in an online yelling session.
1. What's so rude about leaving a room when someone you don't like comes in?
Well, it's not always rude, but it's often rude. I guess, for me, when my feelings start to dominate the dynamic, then it's rude. For example, if I'm at a cafe drinking my coffee by myself and someone I didn't like came in, I might leave to avoid interacting with them. If I was with a group of friends, then I think it would be rude of me to make my negative feelings about someone else affect the group. And if I was working on a group assignment from school or something, if I couldn't perform my part of the assignment because my negative feelings about one of the people in the group meant I left the room rather than work together, then I'd really have shot myself in the foot, right? Like, I've had bosses and colleagues and customers that I haven't liked, but because I cared more about my paycheque than making sure they knew I didn't like them, I stuck around and behaved politely and and got my payoff.
So I relate being in a family to being in any other group. If your negative feelings about one person disrupt the functioning of the group, then it's rude. And allowing or supporting that behaviour isn't helping the kid. Teaching her to understand and articulate her feelings, to accept others, to show good manners and cordiality anyway - that's helping her.
About other SM's and how they choose to behave? Not relevant in my opinion.
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Why is it not considered rude the DH is trying to force a relationship with the daughter she patently doesn't want?
It is rude, but only the part after normal family interaction. Like, it's not rude to greet people in your home and expect some chit-chat over dinner. It would be rude for DH to try to be best buds. I really don't know what is going on in that household, and I didn't get so much from the OP on DH trying to 'force' a relationship as I did about the daughter's being rude.
I suspect that DH does want more than what is on offer, and hopefully his counselling will help him to accept that he may never get more than cordiality from his SD. I also hope the OP will invest in talking with him to try to understand what his expectations are, and helping him accept they may not be met. I can see that would be difficult, so the OP also has a responsibility to decide for herself, and inform DH and her daughter, what the minimum acceptable standards will be. If she's truly ok with her kid disrupting the group by leaving when DH comes in, then I think she's wrong and hurting both her kid and her husband. IMHO, ofc.
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Sure, neither of them are guests, but both clearly affect the dynamic. They don't have to be around each other, but this game of leaving the room if DH comes in affects everyone. I mean, maybe these people have a lot more space than I'm used to, but in my life, we have a common area and the rest is private. So if my DD started to leave the room when DH came in, she'd be spending her time in her bedroom. And that would affect me and any other kids in the home. There are lots of ways to be in the same room without hanging out together. Like right now, I'm on ST and my DH has earphones in watching some stupid Dutch show where people dress in jeans, don't brush their hair, drink wine and talk about soccer. (Thank God for earphones!)
Anxiety and issues are for him alone? I mean, sure, but what about compassion and understanding? Like, if I've got a broken leg it's for me to heal alone, but it's nice if someone offers to bring a coffee over instead of me making it myself, right? And if my DH thought I should carry on exactly as before because my problems are nothing except inconvenient to him, I don't think he'd be my DH.
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I can't speak to what others think of SM's who behave that way. If I had an SD who I didn't like and I chose to show my feelings by dashing off whenever she walked into a room, I'm pretty sure a lot of other things wouldn't be going so swell for me. Because that's still rude, and as an adult, it's also immature and selfish. But that's just me.
he is not trying to force a
he is not trying to force a relationship with her......he is upset she doesnt want anything to do with him. totally different. like i said before Anxiety is SELF destructive
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I don't agree that it sounds
I don't agree that it sounds like the daughter is willing to peacefully coexist, it sounded like there was so much stress in the home as a result of the tension between the daughter and the DH that the OP needed help coping. Are you suggesting that all of the stress in the home is because of the DH's anxiety/issues? Because it came across to me like a burnout, which are usually entirely resolved in less than a year. Although later comments by the OP indicate she's known him forever and he's always been different - in which case, he'd reset to that. Which the OP knew and accepted, and needs to be assisting her kid in accepting.
I agree the daughter is not be responsible for DH's challenges.
I also don't think a family is 'just like' any other group, but groups have certain features that don't depend on who is in (or out) of the group. Those features are what I was referring to.
A polite excuse is not what the OP described her daughter doing.
I think everyone deserves a peaceful home. I see the daughter behaving contrary to that. I haven't really cared about what the DH has done, because I don't think the OP is responsible for his behaviour or for teaching him how to behave.
Taking it from a, "the DH is wrong, just wrong" POV, sure - he can't realistically expect to be a parent or a friend to his skids, especially given how things have played out the past 3 years. So who's going to help him find his way? Navigate being the dad to the 10 mo old and the - what, unwanted adult male? Miss If-I-see-you-I-leave? Or the OP?
Bottom line, IMHO, is that the OP needs to take off her wishing glasses and put on her reality glasses, and start making decisions and taking action. This wishy-washy blaming stuff tires me out.
Well, here we will not find
Well, here we will not find common ground. I agree with pretty much all of your underlying points and values, but not in how you would allow the family interactions to play out.
I didn't get the same take as you did on the daughter's behaviour, but I missed a lot of the comments so maybe there's more information that was provided later. If your take is correct, then sure, she's doing fine. But then why is she leaving the room if DH comes in? Maybe it's one of those homes with a lot of rooms to go to? As I mentioned before, my home has one common area. If one person was constantly on the move to avoid another, there'd be a draft and no one could use the bathroom.
I don't care what the daughter believes or feels when it comes to contributing positively to family life. If my kid is causing a lot of conflict and stress, then I'd be talking to her about it. I'd want to understand (and for her to understand) what is going on for her, AND I'd be teaching her that how she feels doesn't determine her behaviour, and certainly doesn't affect what behaviour is acceptable or not.
Perhaps you misunderstood what I meant by, "accept." The daughter doesn't have to agree that the DH is a fine choice for OP, or set him up in her life as step-dad, or make any commitment to him whatsoever. But he lives there, has a personality and interests and habits and a physical an emotional presence that intersects and interacts with those of her own. So to not accept him is to try to play soccer while a baseball game is going on. Someone's going to get beaned... and be all surprised about it.
I come from a home where there was a lot of tension, strife, anger, outbursts, you-name-it. I am sure if either of my parents knew how to talk about feelings, knew how to accept others for who they are, knew that feelings pass, knew how to focus on the positive - I would have come from a much happier home. So I hope the OP decides to help her daughter with those life skills.
"I don't understand your
"I don't understand your comment of "But he lives there, has a personality and interests and habits and a physical an emotional presence that intersects and interacts with those of her own. So to not accept him is to try to play soccer while a baseball game is going on. Someone's going to get beaned... and be all surprised about it." It's very poetic, but I don't quite get what you are trying to say."
I guess you're mocking me here about my 'poetic' metaphor?
I am trying to say that not accepting the DH is going to lead to conflict. You said she doesn't have to accept him, but it is fruitless to expend energy in refusing to accept reality. Like your mom's husband when you're a teen living in the same house, for example.
And I guess you and I have a different idea or goal for family life. I used to care about what other people thought, and about being comfortable and having things how I like them. Now I really prioritize making things fun and positive and working together over anything else. But I have experienced a different situation than some I guess.
Well, if the cat comes into
Well, if the cat comes into it I know you're serious... I've seen you open that liquor cabinet to all and sundry! Thanks
Yeah, I think you're right about the DH. I just don't think the OP has as much influence over him as over her daughter. I think she's shirking her responsibility to both by putting herself in the middle and failing to set any boundaries.
But I'm sure no one has the entire picture.
So dad has lifelong issue,
So dad has lifelong issue, has a breakdown after baby is born, stepdaughter quite sensibly keeps her distance from this, and now it's her fault for his continued lifelong issues. Awesome.
I am absolutely dumbfounded
I am absolutely dumbfounded at the amount of 'filling in the gaps' that has happened in this thread!
There is blame on all sides of course, because that is why I am here looking to find ways to resolve the issue. Please read all of my replies and don't judge just from my first post. My husband has admitted his issues are causing him to feel stress and anxiety around my daughter (and in other areas not just my daughter), and I am supporting him by confronting the issue with my daughter (as i have already said)-in fact I am listening to them both and trying to resolve things-again as i have said.
When two people don't want to be in the same room as each other, if you had read my replies you would have seen that I said also he wont come into the room if she is in there......
You all seem to want to dig up some drama that isn't there-like I said in an earlier post I have been accused of being a shit mum, my husband of being an abuser (in different ways) and that I should just leave him because he has a mental health illness my daughter of being a brat and that I put men before my children I have not reacted because you have all made assumptions based on god knows what.
I am here to ask advise, to try and mediate between my husband and my daughter-they are both at fault and yes me too for being so fucking tired with a 10 month old, university, an autistic son, a husband who suffers from anxiety and a teenage daughter. So yeah, I am a shit mum for asking for help.
Sometimes problems can be just that. Problems can be solved with a little insight from others, the world isn't full of abusers, violence and disrespectful kids......
So two people that dont get
So two people that dont get along means that one of them must be sexually abusing the other? What a terrible assumption to make......You know my story from a few words on a screen, like I said please dont fill in the gaps from your own story.
ok apologies 'don't fill in
ok apologies 'don't fill in the gaps from stuff you have read on the internet'.
Wouldnt it be a wonderful world if every part of family life was perfect, well life isnt like that-people get ill, people die, babies get born, people come and go. I would think that everyone has issues within the family unit at some point in their lives. the important thing is that they try to resolve them (which is exactly what I am doing). I think this thread would have been very different if I had omitted the fact my husband suffers with anxiety...people are so quick to judge and condemn.
Here is my three
Here is my three cents...inflation....
Your daughter needs to be polite. Say hi, then she can leave the room. She does not need to have a relationship with her step dad. She just needs to be polite. Lay that rule down. Done. She is allowed to keep her distance from her anxiety ridden step dad.
Your DH needs to get over his whole "perfect" family and household. He needs a chill pill...i hope he is taking them. He sounds like someone that would make kids feel uncomfortable. His idea of perfect does not exist. He needs to let go of all the little things. Seriously. Let go.
Daughter...polite
DH...let go
Love you too!
Love you too!
Pickles, I never said your
Pickles, I never said your DH is a pedophile. I shared my story because it looks like alienation and discrediting of your DD. And, I wish someone had done so to my mom.
That aside, I don't think your DH'S expectations are reasonable. If DD is polite, no need for her to meet his emotional needs, regardless of mental illness (I'm very well educated on anxiety and mental illness).
I sincerely wish you the best of luck.
My comment will sound naïve
My comment will sound naïve and in fact is at some level. The problem is not your daughter, it is your husband and more specifically the problem is that he lives in a virtual world and is incapable of dealing with the real one. After many years on this site and several other blended family sites there is a striking frequent common denominator among the individuals in a blended family scenario with the worst issues. Video games.
For some reason people who are avid gamers seem to often struggle with life. My own son (SS-23 now adopted) had and still does have the same issues. We solved it by purging video games from our home completely. Once we did his life performance improved drastically. As he launched and we no longer had direct control and influence over his daily existence he did backslide. The good news is that he learned enough during his teen years to comprehend that though his preference is the fantasy digital universe he has to live in the real world. He is an effective problem solver and will reboot himself back into the real world when he starts to feel the pinch of his fantasy world impacting his actual life.
Of course there is more to the issue than just video games but the fact remains that your daughter is not the problem. Your husband is. So, how are you going to mitigate the negative influence of your husband on your children? All three of them. Your youngest will have the most risk of long term negative impact from all of this as your DH is also his biodad.
You should also address directly and firmly any rude or snarky crap from your DD directed at your DH or anyone else for that matter. Her teen brain fart hormonal psychosis isn't helping.
Doing nothing would not be an option were I you.
Good luck.
ok I am very grateful for
ok I am very grateful for some of the constructive replies and advise given here. Myself and my husband have always been open and honest with each other (and me with my kids). I operate on a level that if something can be worked through in an adult way then its worth the effort of trying-which is exactly why I posed my question here.
There have been alot of assumptions made, which has resulted in alot of drama.
Firstly my daughter is not an unhappy child, she has issues with her bio father which are being resolved at her pace. She is 16 now and as she has grown into the woman she is becoming she has become more assertive and some of these issues with her father are being confronted because she is instigating the confrontation with him. Asking him why questions etc. Thats an area that as a mother I have been able to support her in now because she is starting to ask those questions. All their childhood I made excuses up (wrongly or rightly) for their father not turning up, turning up drunk etc because I wanted to shield them from his alcoholism. These issues started way before my husband came on the scene. She has no anger towards me, we have a good relationship and she does talk to me about anything. Of course I have conversations with her about my husband, and her attitude is always indifferent. She doesnt hate him, she doesnt like him as a person, they have nothing in common at all. I get that, and I understand that-she is a 16 year old girl who is about to go to college, has tons of friends, socialises and her life focus is music and social media (as is normal for teenagers). She has no conversation with my husband beyond the normal polite etiquette.
My husband had a mini breakdown that was triggered by a number of things all happening at once. We moved house, he was dealing with alot of pressure at work, I had an awful pregnancy with my youngest and needed alot of care and our son nearly died at birth because the hospital didnt follow the care plan. Add all that to his anxiety, which he has suffered from on and off all his life its easy to see how he buckled under the pressure. Having a baby alone is hard enough on people that dont have any health problems.
His breakdown came from trying to keep everything together for us, the family. His anxiety caused him to react in an OCD way, his way of keeping things together. Of course this was not acceptable to any of us, and it was this point I asked him to leave and he spent the next few months living with a friend and examining his illness and seeking help.
Whilst this was going on with him, I was dealing with a newborn, I expect this also had an impact on my two older ones as mom was busy elswhere. At this time my two older kids changed schools (as i said we moved). There was alot of changes happening around that time, and no human could go through that and not have it affect them.
I have lived and brought my kids up on my own for the last ten years, always put them first (its one of the reasons I chose to hold off my career until they were older-hence me going to uni now), if I thought for one minute my kids were suffering by having my husband here i'd be gone like a shot.
When my husband got in from work last night, I skimmed through these posts (like I said we are open with each other), he was both shocked and saddened to read so much judgement. However, it opened his eyes to the fact he was mostly seeing things in a very self absorbed way-which if anyone knows anything about anxiety its all about fear and keeping fear from you. people with anxiety will try their hardest to not feel fear (ie OCD behaviour, complete evasion of the subject or worrying about outcomes that do not exist). When that fear hits, a person becomes very insular.
He agreed that his rationale was fear that he would lose me and our son because my daughter didnt like him, so in his way of trying to fix this he would try harder to get along with her. His conversations with her then became awkward and forced and she in turn then backed off, he hadnt realised he has done more harm than good by trying too hard. He also understood that coming to me with his worries, which sometimes caught me off guard was like waving a red flag at a bull. We argue about it because it always comes back to the same damn thing and I am exhausted by it.
My daughter is not the cause of his anxiety, just as much as he is not the cause of her apathy-there are many factors which I have tried to summerise above.
To move forward husband has agreed to work on his fear of losing me and our son and that these fears come from his childhood (his mum left him with relatives several times for different men and his dad was not around). Its only been this year that he has acknowledged that through counselling-which has been a huge step in the right direction.
For my part, I am continuing to be the role I am in a wife and a mother. I am a good mom, and proud of my kids-they are good kids with good manners. I can't make my daughter like my husband, but I can show her that in life there is give and take, we have to make compromises. There is no danger here despite the dramatics that have been said on this message board, mostly made up from lack of information.
But i am grateful for all that i have extracted from your replies. thank you.
Yes, his CBT was to enable
Yes, his CBT was to enable him to gain coping strategies when he felt fearful ie he has to examine the feeling and work out if the fear is rational or not. His doctor is trying things through a process of elimination one stage at a time. The next step for him is to go back to the doctors and try the next step which I believe will be a referral to a psyche doc. I'm sure there will be meds along the way, this doctor has actually been fantastic and pretty thorough-the first one he went to offered him anti depressants straight away with no questions asked. My husband recognises this has to be a life long change, not a quick fix, so is conscious of the need to work through this systematically. The CBT has worked to a degree, but obviously he does have the occasional wobble, I have to remind him that our little boy picking up a toy from the floor and putting it in his mouth will not harm him but infact help his immune system-for example. Its little things like that, that freak husband out and he needs to constantly assess his worries, which actually is bloody exhausting for him-and people around him.
Its a slow process I know, and of course this thread is all about his problems not his attributes and positives for which there are many
It sounds that you and DH
It sounds that you and DH have a good thing and that ultimately all of you will be just fine. You all will if you and DH stay aligned and keep working on the family dynamic as equity life partners and equity parents to all of your kids... regardless of the kid biology.
Your support of your DH's mental health improvement process and his dedication to doing it is inspiring.
Thanks for the summation.