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dlibyd's picture

Hi,

I'm new here, this is my first post. I'm a stepfather, married 10 1/2 years, no children of my own. I have 2 stepdaughters in their 20s, both are single mothers. I've had issues with both stepdaughters over the years, but my wife and I have somehow weathered each storm. With both SDs being single mothers, we are called upon to help watch their kids more than I would like, which my wife is aware of, but I have tolerated it so far.

However, a few months ago, my oldest SD, who has 2 boys, ages 6 and 3, moved in with us when she broke her foot and could not take care of her children for a while. Having browsed some of the topics here, you can guess where this is going; her 6 weeks to recover from her injury turned into 6 months of her and her boys living with us. That was hell for me, but I tried my best to be patient and let my wife be the one to coax her to move out. What finally happened, just this past weekend, is my wife kicked her out. SD had a drinking problem, and has admitted that she does not want to take care of her children.

So now my wife wants to keep the grandchildren in our house and take care of them, "temporarily", until the school year ends, and/or my SD gets help for her drinking problem, as well as therapy that she obviously needs, in hopes that she'll come to her senses and want to be a mother to her children again.

I am naturally against taking the grandchildren in. First of all, I'm already at my wits end having them in our house for the last 6 months. I don't love kids, unfortunately, and feel I can only be a good grandfather if they are occasional visitors in our house, not residents. Secondly, I worry that this "temporary" arrangement will end up not being so temporary. It seems unlikely that this living situation will not pull my wife an I apart if it goes on for very long.

I feel like I have 2 choices: either learn to live with it, even though I will be unhappy, and hope it truly ends up being only temporary; or move out until the kids move out. But I am also afraid that if I move out "temporarily", it may be hard for us to get back together.

We have talked about it, and my wife is insistent on taking care of these kids for now, whatever the risk to our marriage. It's on me to decide how I can deal with it. Any thoughts or advice would be greatly appreciated.

dlibyd's picture

Sadly, I agree with what you said, mostly. One thing - my wife does care about my feelings. She knows I am against this, she knows I feel it will put a major strain on our marriage. The problem is, she loves her grandchildren more than anything, and she sees no alternative for their well-being right now. And, as much as I don't want them living with us, as much as I realize there is a very high probability that "temporary" becomes "long-term" or even "permanent", I respect my wife's feelings too. And I can't offer her a better solution for the boys. As much as I am angry at my SD, it is not her kids' fault.

I can't blame my wife for doing what she feels she has to do for the grandchildren. I wish I could magically transform myself into someone who loves kids and wants to raise these kids. But I can't change who I am. I guess I see the writing on the wall, that I end up being the odd man out if this plays out as it appears it will. Sad

dlibyd's picture

Somebody else asked about the dad, too. He is still in the picture, and the kids stay with him on his days off, Tuesday and Wednesday. He also takes them most weeks on Saturday night.

In my mind, you're right, if the mother is not able or willing to take care of their children, then all of the responsibility should fall on the father. That was my argument to my wife when she said she was taking the kids in. Her response was that when the father works, he would leave the kids with his parents. My wife has dropped off the kids at the father's parents' house, and was appalled that they smoke in the house, and simply leave the kids in a small room to watch a TV all day. The kids have told her they don't like going there.

But to me, as much as I feel for the kids, that's too bad, but if that's the life they were brought into by their parents, that's just the way it has to be. It's not our responsibility, I told my wife. But just as someone posted below that they could understand my wife insisting on taking the kids if the only other option was foster care, my wife feels that having the father's parents take care of the kids much of the time is not an accaptable option either.

Superdad454's picture

Fine, then offer to be their daycare, so dad can pick them up and drop them off each day, that way you are doing an enormous "favor" for him but he still gets to "ENJOY" being a parent (/sarcasm). All I know is if you open the door to a full on "they live with us", it is letting everyone involved off easy and all YOU get is the stress and expenses.

FreeNHappy's picture

This is a toughie. I agree with what everyone's saying too for the most part, but I feel really bad for the kids...it's not their fault that their mom is so messed up. On the other hand, you are being straight up and honest and it's your home too. You have definitely put in your step-parenting time and I know that the shining light at the end of most step-parent's tunnels is that golden day when the skids turn 18 and leave. I think getting the dad involved more is a wonderful idea and might really be the solution. As the father, who is already involved in their lives, it is really HIS job to step in. I think I can understand where your wife is coming from though too, because if my nephew or nieces needed me to take them in, I would in a heartbeat, regardless of the repercussions to my personal life. In my sister's wills (morbid as that is) I am listed as the person who would get custody of them if anything happened to their moms (God forbid!) and I made sure to tell my fiance this early on...it would be my worst nightmare to lose my sisters or have something make them incapable of taking care of their kids, but it's an honor to be that person for them if it's ever necessary. In my case, I adore kids and my nieces and nephews, but I am a kid person and I haven't spent years and years and years raising kids that I didn't want to...so I would be burned out too if I was in your position!

I think it's definitlely time to sit down with the dad and work out how he can get more custody and have his kids more so that the majority of the burden isn't on you and your wife. Good luck!!

FreeNHappy's picture

Oh also, the thought just occurred to me that you might make a deal with the mom, where in exchange for taking care of the kids "temporarily" (while getting the dad more involved at the same time) that she agree to go to AA and get in an alcoholic treatment program for at least 6 months and then re-evaluate the custody after she has been sober. If she can't manage to stay clean, then full or mostly full custody should be given to the father, with visitation (or partial custody) given to your wife? Some plan along those lines? Addiction is a disease, but people can overcome it and it's not okay for her to just give in to it and abandon her kids. If she does choose alcohol over her own children then she does not deserve to have legal rights to them or custody. You could have a legal agreement written up by a lawyer and signed by everyone involved so that it is legal and your SD takes it seriously. Unfortunately, since she doesn't want her kids anyway, it sounds like it might be hard to motivate her to get sober. People sometimes really do have to hit their own rock bottom before they turn things around and who knows what that might be for her if it's not losing her children?

dlibyd's picture

Oh, if only all the problems with stepkids were over when they turned 18! That was my fantasy when I got married. My reality turned out a lot different.

My stepgrandchildrens' father pretty much has his kids as much as he can right now, given his work schedule and the fact that SGS6 goes to school in our town. Sure, he could probably try to rearrange his schedule if he really wanted to take more responsibility - imagine that, changing your life to take responsibility for your own kids - but I'm pretty certain he's perfectly happy with the current arrangement.

As for alcoholic SD, she has yet to admit she has a problem, so she's not going to get any help until she comes to that realization. One can only hope that as the days and weeks go by and it sinks in that she's given up her own children, some sense of guilt and responsibility will enter her conscience.

I read your profile, FreeNHappy, and I want to first of all congratulate you for doing what was apparently the best thing for you life, and finding new love without the Skid issue attached. And I think it's great of you to stick around this site and continue to offer support. I hope once I get a little more settled in my situation (if that ever happens!), I can be of help to others here as well.

Superdad454's picture

Ya it is unfortunate that when it comes to choosing between "Me or Them", the mom instincts kick in and they ALWAYS choose them.

I think it is horribly selfish of the loser mother to just "decide" she doesn't want to take care of her kids. If it was me I would tell the bitch "tough darts, take them and YOU deal with the guilt of having to take them to a shelter or whatever but you do NOT get to walk away scott free". Worst case scenario I would tell mom that she has to FORMALLY AND LEGALLY sign over custody for them and that we were going after mom for enforced child support just like in a divorce.

As others have said, if you and your wife agree to this, the BM will NEVER make any moves towards getting them back, at least not in the foreseeable future. Plus then you get to deal with her just dropping in to see her kids when it is convenient for HER. What a DEAL, she can crap out some kids and then just decide that being a responsible adult is no fun so someone else should take on that burden while she goes and parties. Some people should just not be ALLOWED to breed.

I couldn't do it, like you, I am DONE with raising little kids, I did my job and produced a healthy young man and I am looking forward to having a life of my own now. In the end, you have to decide if you are ready to raise these kids as your own until they can move out on their own, with the very likely complication of the BM interfering and complicating that process to varying degrees the entire time.

UTOBMOM's picture

So nice to see Stepfather sticking up for his wife. I was put in the same situation with a bio daughter and ended up with three small children our second year of marriage . . . it was tough. On all of us! My mother came (2800 miles away, whom my husband had not met, and cried as she THANKED him for stepping up to the plate, for being there, when he did not really "have" to. My mother is NOT the emotional type, for her say or do that is pretty wild! My new husband is the most wonderful man, and I will always be grateful that he did step up, like he would want me to for his grandchildren.

hippiegirl's picture

Oh. That sucks. If I were you, I'd go and rent an apartment until your wife decides who she wants to live with. Do not give into this nonsense--you will be miserable. I dodged this same bullet last fall. SS asked DH if he & his prego gf could move in. I told my DH how that story would end. They wouldn't "be able to find jobs", therefore, not be able to move out. Then, when the baby comes, we got a whole nother set of problems. "No thanks" I said. DH can resent me all he wants. I was NOT about to yield my home to a bunch of deadbeats.

dlibyd's picture

See my reply to Echo above, regarding foster care. There is another option, but to my wife, it's not much better than foster care.

As you say, I fear that my life with my DW will essentially be over unless this truly is only a temporary situation. Though at least we do have a few days together... though, as I think about it, my wife works 24 hour shifts at a hospital, and will most likely have to schedule her shifts for those days when the boys are at their father's.

Maybe I can convince her to at least let the father's parents take them once or twice a week, giving the two of us some kid-free time together. I'm not ready to walk out just yet, so that compromise might make life bearable while I see how this turns out in the long term.

Shannon61's picture

I think a compromise is a good idea. Or how about you take them for the school year, and let their dad keep them during the summer months.

dlibyd's picture

Well, it looks like things are falling apart between me and my wife more quickly than I had anticipated. She came home a while ago from working a 24 hour shift (I telework from home on Wednesdays) and went off on me, how she is so angry at me for being selfish and not being willing to sacrifice my time and quality of life in order to do what is best for the grandchildren.

I consider myself an objective person, and I am willing to admit she is right about me living a self-absorbed life, and I guess that me not being willing to make this sacrifice, that she has decided is the only solution for these grandkids, makes me a selfish person. A better person would do what is best for the greater good, not just for themselves. My problem is I just don't think I have it in me to raise these kids indefinitely. I am looking at this as once we take on being the primary caregivers, it is most likely going to continue this way until the kids are 18. I really don't want teenagers in my house when I'm at retirement age. So yes, I am selfish by nature. But if I don't think I can live a life under these circumstances and maintain my sanity, if I'm just going to be miserable inside all the time, if the quality of our marriage is going to go down the drain, do I have a moral responsibility to stick it out anyway? Furthermore, if I run away from it, will I feel so guilty about it that I'll end up being unhappy anyway?

I feel like when I got married, I made a commitment "for better or worse", and I should stay and help my wife raise these kids. But I also feel like I just can't do it. I'll ruin my own life in the process. I'm feeling very conflicted.

dlibyd's picture

Thanks, Echo. You're right, in my wife's mind, it's all about saving these kids, and nothing is going to get in her way, not even her husband who has made it clear that he won't live with kids in the house indefinitely.

To answer your questions: (1) No, she did not sign over custody. She got kicked out of our house on Sunday, and I don't think she and her mother have spoken since. My wife believes that SD will eventually come to her senses and want to take her kids back. I'm not so sure. But as far as my wife is planning for the moment, this is just temporary, until the end of the school year in June. Our 6-year-old grandson goes to school 1/2 mile from our house, while the father lives 20 minutes away.

(2) I agree completely. But, (3) the kids' father has already spoken to my wife. He knows of her plans, and as far as I have gathered, is perfectly okay with it. The thing is, they've already been living here for almost 6 months, so this is their other "home" besides dad's house. Even 6 months ago, before SD came to live with us, my wife has always had them here several days a week while SD works. As long as my wife is willing to take care of them, everyone else is happy with that. Especially SD, of course, who now can go out and drink as often as she wants, knowing that her children are in good hands. I wish I could make my wife see how her taking in the kids is enabling her daughter and giving her no incentive to straighten out and take her kids back.

Finally, yes, in the end I have to do what is right for my own life and well being. Perhaps some see that as being selfish, and under the circumstances, maybe it is. But I agree, I have to take care of myself before I can worry about taking care of anyone else.

Superdad454's picture

Um, how is she (your wife) going to take care of two school age children when she works those kinds of hours? It sounds more like she is committing YOU to doing an awful lot of work as well.

The other person is right, the bio dad HAS to be told about this because if HE doesn't want them with you full time, he has more control than you or your wife do (HINT HINT!).

I am of the opinion that at some point it is your right to be selfish. You raised YOUR kids, she raised hers, why is it either of your obligation to become parents now for someone else's kids just because they are a fucking LOSER. Yes it is sad for the kids, it's not their fault etc etc, but it is not YOUR fault either.
As someone else just pointed out, these will not be your kids in any form but financially. Imagine what happens when one of them has a doctor's appt, or has an issue in school and you or your wife make a decision, and mom, being an imbalanced drunk, doesn't agree with your choices. Now you have someone that can't raise her own children, having legal control over these children that you have living with you. Who pays for their health insurance and medical care or groceries and clothing and school fees.

What if one gets in trouble and you decide to spank him/her, if BM doesn't agree with spanking, now you have police and CSD investigating you.
Who gets to claim them on taxes? What happens when you do because you legally CAN, and BM decides she wants the quick cash from claiming kids and gets $$ from the IRS who doesn't know better, now you have to prove that you legally have the right to claim them. (I just had this exact situation with my son and his BM actually and it is a massive pain.)

What happens when she files for welfare and gets food stamps for her kids so she can use them on herself and then Bio Dad gets hit for child support and again sends Welfare and CSD to your door to find out where these kids REALLY live and who pays for what?

It is admirable and "nice" that grandma wants to take care of these kids, but I think she is being blinded by that to the realities of the overall situation. There are a LOT of legal and financial liabilities involved here and you have very little protection or control over them if the bio parents choose to interfere. If the Bios start fighting, suddenly YOU are dragged into court and stuck in the middle. Do you want all that drama?

An all of this doesn't even get into what happens when they become TEENAGERS and raise your insurance just by being there, or start making the stupid choices that teens make in the best of situations, but you have teens with parental issues, feel like sorting out a grandchild's drug or legal issues in your retirement?

If I were you I would state that the MOST you would agree to is assisting in financing child care for the kids so that dad can afford it, and only that if YOU can afford it.

dlibyd's picture

Well, it's too late, it's a done deal. The kids arrive later today.

I mentioned elsewhere in this thread that I was pretty sure the stepgrandkids' father was perfectly happy with the arrangement proposed by my wife. I confirmed this last night. He seems to be a good father to the boys when he has them, but I believe he wouldn't want them any more often even if his work schedule permitted it.

Lots of issues here that I'm sure my wife hasn't considered. But I see clearly that nothing is going to stop her from taking the kids in. She still hopes it's temporary, but when I talked to her last night about the possibiliy, in my mind the likely probability, that once she commits to this, she will end up raising them until they're 18, she just says, I hope not, but if that's what it takes...

I'm on this forum because, obviously, like all of us here, in spite of these stepfamily issues, we want to stay in our marriages. But I'm sad to say that after our talk about it all last night, which was ugly at times, I feel like I already have one foot out the door. Sad

Superdad454's picture

Well in the realm of "Easier Said than Done"...

You can point out to her that SHE agreed to this and did so against your expressed wishes and honest voiced opinions. Therefore YOU are in no way obligated to take on any of the burden she has decided to put upon herself (and you by association).
I know it will cause fights but if I were you I would state clearly that I didn't agree to this so I am not going to be doing the work portion of it. I would be finding more hobbies outside of the house and spend more time away when the kids are out of school and hanging around the house, needing help with homework, needing food cooked etc. Basically I would be "on strike" any time they were there so she gets to deal with what SHE committed to, if she complains, point out what SHE committed to and suggest she call her daughter and son in law if she wants to get mad and vent to someone.
I would basically go out of my way to simulate a single mother situation for her, she can cook for her kids and bathe them etc.

I certainly would not be a babysitter, if she is at work, maybe she needs to make changes to her hours, people with children cannot work strange off hour shifts after all.

bestwife's picture

You are being realistic. Which is a good thing.

A ton of their care will fall on you - especially if you work from home. You can count on having "issues" about their care and who is doing what almost every day if they move in.

Dad does have a say. Also drunk Mom will most likely use the kids to blackmail your wife at some point. I've seen it happen over and over again. "Here Mom - take the kids I don't want to be bothered" Grandmother gets even more attached and drunk Mom demands money, car, etc or "I'll take the kids away from you." It happens every day.

Right now you should be getting your finances in order. In a worse case if she gets control of these kids and you divorce you might have to pay child support. :jawdrop:

dlibyd's picture

One correction - I only work at home one day a week, and that's one of the days the kids are at their father's.

But you're probably right on the money as far as a lot falling on me, and the rest. I hadn't even considered the child support issue. I'm still worrying about how I would be able to afford to rent my own apartment if it comes to that - and it's looking more and more likely every day - while still being liable for half of the mortgage on our house.

Am I the only one here who wonders why anyone would ever marry into a family with kids? Even as we've all done so ourselves!

dlibyd's picture

I will. I appreciate your kind words and thoughts, Echo. This forum is one of the few things right now that's allowing me to maintain my sanity and my perspective on the situation. The internet has its good and bad points, but one of the good points is how it can connect us with other people all over the world who can relate to whatever it is we're going through.

Superdad454's picture

This type of stuff is EXACTLY why I am not actually married legally to my Fiancee. We have been engaged for 2 years and have no "date" set, people look at us weird when we tell them that. SO few people can seem to connect rational planning and real life with "romance" and "love". Most people act like you should hurry up and get married and not worry about the "technicalities", like CHILDREN.

We are not moving in together until all or most of our adult children are safely moved out and on their own and then we plan on buying a small place together that will physically not ALLOW anyone to "couch surf" with us.

We have also discussed that if one of our "Adult Kids" were to get pregnant we would have to SERIOUSLY re-evaluate the entire plan and both agree that it would SERIOUSLY effect our relationship as we both know that NONE of our kids are mature or responsible enough to raise a kid yet and there is no doubt that they would show up at our door with the baby expecting lots of help and a place to stay.

No it's not "romantic", but like you, we are trying to be very realistic, we have both been through some really crappy marriages and know how bad things CAN get so we are doing everything we can to limit those things in ours before they get started.

Kilgore SMom's picture

I was a single Mom for years and rasied my 2 daughters by my self. My daughters are now grown. I never wanted to raise any more children. But My DH (i wasn't married to him at the time)got a girl he'd only known for a few weeks pg. So when SS was 18months we got the DNA call for the mgrandmother. DH and I step up and now we have full custody. It has been hard adjusting. Although my dh is very happy, he has no other child. I on the other hand never wanted to deal with ex's. Thats why I never dated men with small children. I'm sure some people think I'm selfish. As a grandmother myself I can tell you that I would keep my grandchildren too. Even if it meant permentant. I totally see both sides. I hate this for you and your DW. The one thing I would put my foot down about is enableing the daughter. I would cut her OFF. Not let her see or talk to her kids. No enableing. If the father doesn't like that then he needs to be a man and step up for his kids. Your DW should have a talk with kids Daddy about doing just that. But if his family is not fit, then again I see DW not wanting to do that. Raising a SS has been a HUGE adjustment on my part as a SM. But I wouldn't want to leave my husband. We are now faceing careing for a disable parent. Theres no end when it is family. Thank God my husband hasn't left me.

trystme's picture

My mother is rasing/ has raised all 3 of my brother's children. Although she loves them dearly, it has been a terrible burden on her.

In the beginning, when my Mom didn't have legal custody (only physical custody) it was especially difficult for all of the reasons that another poster listed, like health care/insurance issues, school stuff, and SIL continued to get the food stamps while my mother could get no help whatsoever.

The worst part was that while my brother and SIL were still using (drug addicts and drug dealers) if my mother wouldn't do something that they wanted her to do they would threaten to take the children back. One time she even took the kids on a vacation just so SIL wouldn't be able to find them. (running scared)

So, your wife really does need take this to court. It is gonna get ugly no matter what but at least if she has custody, she will be in charge of where they are.

dlibyd's picture

Things aren't looking quite as bleak as when I last posted here that I felt like I already had one foot out the door. I'm still not happy about this, but I'm staying, at least for now, and most likely for the duration. I'm sure we've all had many times where we had that impulse to just get away at all costs. I know I have several times before, though never as seriously as this week. But deep inside I knew that running away, while providing me with immediate relief, would not have been the righr thing to do. For one thing, as much as I said earlier that I'm not a kid person amd can't take them being in my house all the time, I do care about these kids. And of course it's not their fault. They're innocent victims of their mother's irresponsibility, and they deserve better. And given their unstable life up to this point, they're really pretty good kids. The 6-year-old really loves me, and I would feel awful to abandon him. Both of these kids could really use a good male role model in their life. While their father seems to be a good loving father to them, he's not the most stable person either, and frankly, he's an idiot, to be blunt. I know I'm not perfect, but I'm surely a better male role model for these kids.

And I would feel awful to abandon DW at a time that is way more difficult for her than it is for me. So for now, I'm trying to wrap my brain around what Life has decided to hit me with, and I'm just going to try to get by, a day at a time, a week at a time, and hope I can adjust and find a way to cope and hopefully still be reasonably happy.

I have lots more I want to say about this, but it's been a long busy day, and the kids will be up early, so I need to get some sleep. More later this weekend when I have time. Thanks again to everyone who has offered support and advice this week.

dlibyd's picture

I'm glad I found this place to "talk" to people who understand what I'm going through. It looks like I'm going to be here for a long while. Maybe I should move this into a personal blog? I don't know what the general preference is here. It looks like some people prefer the blog, others the forum.

My focus now has to be how to live with the situation and maintain some kind of quality of married life, as well as my sanity. I am slowly, reluctantly, coming to accept that this major change has happened in my life. Like it or not, this is what is in front of me.

I appreciate everyone's input, and I certainly agreed that us taking in these stepgrandkids and leaving SD free to go out and party and neglect her kids was the wrong thing for everyone involved, except maybe the grandkids. However, everything in life is not black and white, every family has its unique history and the family members their own personalities and issues. And I could only spell out so much in my initial explanation of what was taking place at this time. Needless to say there's been a lot more stuff that happened in our family before this, it's not like everything has been fine and suddenly this crisis popped up out of nowhere. Had I been a member of this forum over the years, you would have known a lot more about my SD, who I'll start calling SD25, and her younger sister, SD22, who has actually been much more of a problem in my marriage over the years, though SD25 has added her share of misery too.

Due to my wife's family history, I have come to agree with her that, as much as this sucks for me, letting the kids live here, even if it is permanent, was what my wife had to do or else she would not have been able to live with herself. DW's mother was an alcoholic who was not able to be much of a mother to DW and her 4 siblings. Her mother died when DW was 11, and though she was not the youngest, she sort of became the one to take care of everyone. To this day, she is one of those people who feel they have to take care of everyone, have to come to the rescue, especially for her children, and now grandchildren. DW's first husband, the father of her children, was also an alcoholic, and a junkie, who was and continues to be in and out of jail and never staying in one place too long. He abandoned his children when they were young, I'm not sure of the exact age, approx. when they were 9 and 6. Perhaps even worse yet, he has continued to pop in and out of their lives over the years, suddenly reestablishing contact or coming to visit out of the blue, then disappearing for months or years again. It would be better if he just disappeared altogether once and for all, because he is always a bad influence and disrupts their lives and plays with their emotions.

So now DW sees a 3rd generation of this pattern, her grandchildren victims of an alcoholic mother who is abandoning them. DW has always been the one to take care of the kids most often when it wasn't their mommy or daddy. They look to her as more than just a normal grandmother-type presence in their lives, more like she's on an even level with mommy.

As DW says, she is determined that this pattern of her family stops here. She can't bear to watch it happen yet again. And me, I don't want this to be my life!! ... but, I get it, and I don't feel I could walk away from it or argue against it anymore in good conscience.

But now begins the work for me of living this day-to-day. I'm sure I'll be posting here quite a bit.

Thanks for reading. Any thoughts and opinions are always appreciated.

dlibyd's picture

I'm continuing to feel better about everything. I realize I had really disengaged from my stepgrandchildren and unfairly started to resent them being in my home, when in truth my anger was with SD25 for not looking for a place for her and her children to live, for taking advantage of our hospitality, and for not taking care of her kids and letting us do everything. I'm finding that now that SD25 is out and it's just us and the kids, the tension and anger are gone, and I'm spending more quality time with the kids. We're just doing what has to be done to give the kids some stability in their lives for now.

Now that initial reactions and emotions have had a week to settle down, DW and I had a good talk last night after the kids went to bed, and I feel we're on the same page now. She doesn't really want this to be her life for the next 6 months either, much less possibly the next 15 years. But she also knows now that as much as I don't want it, and understands why I feel that way, that I'm willing to do what's best for the kids for as long as necessary. I also told her that if/when SD25 decides she wants to take care of her kids again, it could not under any circumstances be in our house, and DW agrees with that 100%. That is huge for me. DW also wants to make sure we still find time for just us. She said a friend of SD22 is looking for some extra money and would like to babysit for us a couple times a week. All in all, what looked overwhelming a week ago has started to look manageable. The biggest thing is DW and I understanding and respecting each other's feelings, and the knowledge that we're united in this and we're not going to let it ruin our marriage.

Superdad454's picture

Glad to hear you are out of "crisis mode". I know some of my input can come across a bit harsh but I have lived through allot of strange stuff and been exposed to even more so I tend to be able to find and see the worst case scenarios in most situations, in principle so I can plan to avoid or deal with them but to others it can come across as harsh.
Anyway, I am glad your wife is seeing that this shouldn't, and cannot be, a major upheaval of your marriage. I can see how this can be a good thing for the skids and a good experience for you. I would just keep a VERY wary eye open for the SD25 when she sees "her babies" thriving with you and either wants to sabotage or otherwise interfere with it, to the detriment of her own kids. Or as you pointed out, wants to move back in and try to profit from all your hard work and be "Mother of the Year" all of a sudden for her kids that you both have had to invest time, emotion, and money into.

Both the uninvolved Bios of my S17 and my wife's D19&D22 LOVE to come back into their lives JUST ENOUGH to interfere and stir up drama and trauma only to vanish again when they got the emotional validation they wanted and leave us to "talk them out of their tree" as they have emotional issues for DAYS after. SO just be aware of that kind of cycle forming and be ready to stop it if it starts.

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Yes, I've already seen this happen with SD25's Bio Dad, see my post above that starts with "I'm glad I found this place", 2nd half of 4th paragraph. And that's how I'm feeling now; as long as SD25 stays out of the picture, we're going to be alright. But I know that's not going to happen. Fortunately DW agrees with me that SD25 cannot live in our house again, period. But I know she's going to stir things up eventually.

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I started a blog today, because I felt the need to vent over anger at SD25. Probably not the last time I'll need to do so. But I figured it belonged in a blog rather than added to this thread. This thread topic is no longer valid anymore anyway - "stepchildren moving in" has become "stepchildren moved in and now living with us indefinitely".

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My stepgrandkids are currently living with us 4 days a week. The other 3 days they live with their father. His current work schedule makes it hard for him to have them the other days, especially with SGS6 going to school in our town, but 20 minutes from his house; plus, his work shift runs until past the kids' bedtime. But I agree, that should be no excuse. Better he should have to rearrange his life and/or find care for his kids than have it fall on us. It's my wife's decision to have them live with us the rest of the week. I disagree, we argued about it, I came to see why she felt she had to do this, I still think it's wrong, but I realized she's set on this, and my only option to escape it would be to leave our home. I decided I'm not ready to do that, at least not yet.

My wife is going to start seeing a therapist next Monday. It is someone we had been to together before over other family issues. I know this therapist will tell her she should not have volunteered to raise these kids. I doubt DW will be receptive to that. But at least it will validate my side of the argument in her mind, for what that's worth.

I will say DW is understanding of my position of not wanting to raise her grandchildren, and accepts that I get away from it often, whether it be going out with friends or simply disappearing to another part of the house to avoid the kids when I need a break.

This is definitely not what I signed up for, but it is what my life is for now and probably for a long time. I don't see anything changing DW's mind. For her, it's all about what's best for the kids. I love DW enough to stick it out for now, but who knows how long I'll continue to feel it's worth it.

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Sorry I'm late to this, but Echo is right. There will be no "temporary" situation, as you can see already. Your SD seriously sounds like mine. Too concerned with partying, drinking, weed, and men to take care of her responsibilities. We basically have been raising my SGS3 for the past year since they've been living with us. Hell SD22 doesn't even come home at night anymore, that's how lazy and irresponsible she is.

I know it sucks man, because I am right there in your shoes. I have no kids of my own, and it was hard getting used to my DW's enabling ways when it comes to the SDs. You truly are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I know this isn't the future you envisioned for yourself, and I'm completely there with you. There have been times I wondered if I should leave, but I know I would be miserable without my DW. Perhaps you can start going to counseling to learn how to better deal with things? It has helped me.