Husband planning a vacation with skids over New Year’s w/o my knowledge
I posted about husband planning trip to Europe to see OSD30 in “Husband can’t cut apron strings with 30 year old daughter”
Now I just found out that my DH is planning a winter vacation with his adult children. I feel completely betrayed. I feel like I got hit by a Mac truck! He’s been planning this with his kids and I am left out of the picture. He’s so worried about his relationship with his kids that he has to buy their love.
We just got married 6 months ago and won’t even have celebrated our 1st Anniversary by then. Last week he mentioned that I should plan “a getaway” for our anniversary full knowing he had already planned to go on a vacation with his adult kids. That way HD can try and keep everyone happy! What a joke! Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t this a decision that should be made as a couple???
I certainly don’t feel like a wife. I guess I’m just here for companionship when his entitled children aren’t around or when he needs someone on his arm for different social/business engagements or sex.....
Personally, I’ve spent 20 years in a first marriage feeling alone because my ex-husband was an alcoholic and married to the “bottle” . I’m not going to waste the rest of my life competing for my DH attention because he can’t cut the apron strings and make our marriage a priority.
We definitely need to go to counseling and I’ve already contacted a few places to see if I think it will be a fit for us. I really don’t know if there’s any hope for our relationship. He doesn’t see the dysfunction. He is well educated and takes a superior position on most subjects. It will be interesting to see if he’s open to hear that he may not be the perfect husband and father that he portrays.
Thoughts?
I'd get upset if DH planned a
I'd get upset if DH planned a vacation of any kind with anyone other than me without telling me. Isn't it just common courtesy for spouses to inform each other of things they are planning to do? And if you aren't invited, shouldn't he be tactful about it and discuss it and care about your feelings about not being invited?
Maybe I have too high expectations for a marriage partnership ... but I don't think so.
I think your expectations are
I think your expectations are right on! It’s common courtesy to discuss plans.
Did he promise you that he
Did he promise you that he would give up taking his kids on grand vacations when you became married?
IF my dh did this you can bet I would confirm my own 12days thru Italy with a friend and hubby would pay for it too. IF it is good for the goose.
That’s a fabulous;ou idea! I
That’s a fabulous;ou idea! I may think about planing a trip with some gals!
He did say before we got married that they probably wouldn’t go on anymore family vacations because it would be too hard to get everyone together now that they’re adults and have their own lives. That’s part of the reason I’m so upset.
We all know that if dear old dad is going to flip the bill for a vacation, they will find a way to go.
Forget counseling....put your
Forget counseling....put your money on 2 round trip tickets to Rome for you and a friend...hell I will go with ya
Sounds like a plan!
Sounds like a plan!
Oh my, this just gets worse
Oh my, this just gets worse and worse. Do you even want to continue with the marriage?
How did you find out about this second trip? Does your H know that you know, and what has he to say for himself?
He left the email page up
He left the email page up with confirmation on a condo he’s renting. I then was curious and looked a little deeper and there was communication with SD30 about the trip.
I haven’t told him I know about the trip. Any ideas on how to bring it up?
I am not sure that I want to continue the marriage. I feel like he’s trying to live 2 lives and there’s just too many secrets. I’m such a transparent honest person and that’s what. I want in a relationship.
I always wonder why people
I always wonder why people like your DH bother to even get married. Is it because it's something they think they should do? Or for the status? Tax beneifts? It seems his emotional life and activities revolve around his kids while you're just a lackey to fill in for sex and when his kids can't be there.
Sorry this is happening so early in your marriage, but I guess it's better to deal with it now rather than later.
I’ve said that exact thing to
I’ve said that exact thing to him. “Why did you want to marry me when your priorities are still your adult kids and I get kicked to the curb every time they’re in the picture.” He doesn’t see it. He thinks he’s being good to everyone and I’m just looking fo something to complain about. It’s so hurtful.
I don’t know how those of you handle playing second fiddle year after year? It’s got to be incredibly stresssful!
I went through this the first
I went through this the first several years. My DH later said that he thought he could treat everyone the same and everyone would be happy. Found out later the skids were complaining to daddy and making him feel guilty; they were the same age as your skids.
My DH learned that I didn't mind him making his daughters happy, but it would not come at my expense. Yours is still walking in la la land thinking he is a great daddy and husband. He needs to get his priorities in order if he wants to stay married. When we went to counseling several years ago to address these issues, our counselor looked at me first and said "he has the right to see his children." Then the counselor looked at DH and said "your children are adults. Do you want to stay married?" His eyes opened a little that day.
This is the good counseling
This is the good counseling can do for a marriage. You need the right counselor and a husband who at least tries to buy into what the counselor says, though.
Completely agree. My DH
Completely agree. My DH fortunately does not want a counselor that just validates; he wants one who challenges him. We both do. And I think that has been a difference maker into finding compromises.
I agree with the other posters - except ---
When he is on his cherished trip with his kids, you should be at your desired destination having a ball with your friend. If you have to fake it, act like you are just SO excited about your trip that it will make him think he is missing something. You never know about those hot men in Italy! Right? For your anniversary, tell HIM to surprise you. Let HIM do the leg work. If he can go out of his way with his kids he can go out of his way for you. You are not his secretary, you are his wife.
I'm not of the ilk who say, 'Take the upper road.' Sometimes you have to get down to their level to get the message through. He may be taking a 'superior position', but he's acting like a bottom feeder when it comes to being a good Husband. Don't undervalue your own intelligence. If he plans something without letting you be in the loop, let him know that you will be returning the sentiments. If it's OK for him, it should be OK for you. He needs to learn to adjust his priorities and choose to be married or not. He has options and opportunities - if he fails to recognize them, too bad, so sad.
My DH use to act like this just after we first got married. He behaved like an a$$. He didn't want to make any sacrifice for me what-so-ever. When I retired and a friend gave me a party, he was mad because he had to take off an hour from his work. I could go on and on about experiences with DH that made me feel like I was not worthy of his time or his demonstration of love. DH was an 'educated' man too but for his own comfort and survival of the marriage, he learned to be a good Husband.
You really put up with a lot
You really put up with a lot through the years! I’m happy to hear that your husband woke up and things changed for the better for you!
Like my DH did, your DH feels
Like my DH did, your DH feels like he has to "make it up to his kids" because daddy got remarried to another woman. My DH changed when he realized we were going to split because of it. He had to learn that wife and daughters are two different things and are to be treated differently.
So true! “make it up to his
So true! “make it up to his kids” because daddy got married.....That’s great that your DH made you the priority. I don’t see that happening for me. My DH doesn’t see that there’s any dysfunction. He thinks I’m going through menopause and I’m moody because of it. Pretty funny!
When your DH is being an
When your DH is being an ahole it really doesn’t matter why. If it’s because his pathetic crotch droppings are COD that’s not an acceptable reason.
Thoughts regarding your DH
Thoughts regarding your DH abandoning you and worshipping his adult children.
While he is on that vacation over your annviersary give yourself the gift of having divorce papers drawn up and the locks rekeyed so when he comes home he feels the burn of his poor choice.
Don't saddle yourself with this POS waste of skin man.
Move on.
Just to clarify...Their
Just to clarify...Their vacation is actually over New Year’s and not our anniversary. I think the reason DH told me to plan a getaway for our anniversary is so I wouldn’t be so upset when I found out he was going on a trip with his kids.
I will definitely think about doing what you said in your post! Thank you!
I wonder when he plans to
I wonder when he plans to tell you. I mean, most married people expect not to spend New Year's alone.
Play with him a little bit. Why don't you plan an expensive surprise trip for both of you over New Year's. When he brings up his trip, whip out your airline tickets.
What always stings so much is that sock in the gut when I find out -- which never seems to happen because he's giving me the small courtesy of telling me about it.
If I weren't so cheap, I'd have pulled this trick of planning an expensive trip when I know he's ditching me for SD. I just never have the nerve to blow the money, even when I know it will make the point.
I wonder who he's planning on
I wonder who he's planning on kissing at midnight...his daughter perhaps?
Of course! LOL!
Of course! LOL!
It does sting when you find
It does sting when you find out that your husband is keeping secrets and lying.
I absolutely love the idea of planning an expensive New Year’s trip somewhere and surprise him! I may just do that! Thanks!
If he doesn’t go with me, I may be kissing someone else on New Year’s Eve! Ha! Ha!
I like it!
If nothing else, there will be his pain of paying for two trips and enjoying neither!
I agree: make plans for the two of you
Make plans for New Years that way, he will have to tell you
Trips with just SO and SKIDs
Trips with just SO and SKIDs don't bother me. I encourage it because it proves I'm not interfering with their relationship. But planning the trip without telling me is quite a different thing. That's purposeful exclusion and is wrong across the board. You're the wife. That means you come first. He should have checked in with you and I'm sure he knows it'll cause a fight later. Most DH's just don't know what to do.
Move out while he is gone,
Move out while he is gone, when he gets home see how he feels about not be included in big decisons. Once you have leveled the playing field THEN discuss how things will be moving forward. Whn people hit me in the face with a hard ball then act surprised that I am hurt I tend to hit back with bigger hard balls this why they learn not to continue to jack with me.
"Whn people hit me in the
"Whn people hit me in the face with a hard ball then act surprised that I am hurt I tend to hit back with bigger hard balls"
Lol
I like the way you think.