Husband cannot assert self to 25 year old
I am currently disengaged with the 25 year old SD. I have asked my husband to babysit her child at her place as I do not want her here unless she can apologize and respect me. Husband said SD responded: "no, SHE needs to respect ME!"He, in turn, said nothing. I am upset at this as he needs to assert himself and be united with me. The major problem here is that he has not been able to be united with me in front of either SD, thus he tacitly goes along with their disrepect of me.
I'm the one who provided a wedding for this 25 year old,I'm the one who helped provide her with her own condo which she trashed, I gave her my car, opened my home to her when she crawled back pregnant, paid her car insurance and for her food...drove her to and from work when she didn't get her license (was too lazy to get a license)....SD told husband that I invaded her privacy when we looked at her checking account. Long story, but she used our mailing address and we did not know it. Along came the mail and I opened what I thought was my checking statement. It was hers and I noticed she went out to restaurants 3-4 times a week while WE paid her car and car insurance! It was because I "looked at her mail" that she claims she has no respect for me. This is BS, but husband still says:you shouldn't have looked. I am ready to pull out my hair!!! Anyone know any good stepfamily therapists in western Massachusetts?I'll drive an hour or more to find a good one who can assist my husband. He's a smart man, but completely brain dead when it comes to the SD.
Thanks!
yeah right...
she didn't lose respect for you because you opened her mail... As you know that took place during her 3-4 weekly dinners. She got caught with her hand in the cookie jar. And who cares if you looked at it.. you were supporting her adult indulgences. If she is going to act like a child then she will be treated as one.
I wouldn't play who is going to respect whom first. You are correct, you are respecting yourself first. Cut off her gravy train and let DH know that he is a bad bad bad father, by not teaching his BD self- sufficiency or self respect. If she had any, she wouldn't be minnie the moocher!! At this point I would let him know that it's not important to you that he agrees with you.. he is part of the problem and it's their problem not your yours so keep it out of your house.
I so know what you mean about DH being a smart man, except when it comes to SD. sorry no referral here. I wish you luck
we are in the club together :)
WOW! I found someone who has a H just like mine! Mine wont stand up to his 29 yr old SD from his last marriage. Are they afraid of hurting her feeling and not worried about OURS? YES, H and W should be a team!!!!
After 15 years in a similar
After 15 years in a similar situation and many therapy visits, it's all about guilt. Daddy's girl knows how to manipulate and get what she wants from Dad. Dad gives in due to guilt for putting her through a divorce. SD never lets him forget. I personally had enough and avoid adult SD at all costs...I feel so much better...however, I lost a lot of respect for my husband.
OMGosh You are living my Step-life!!!
Your Hub sounds just like Mine!! My 26 yr old SS and SDIL are complete jerks to me, despite years of, for lack of a better term' "sucking-up" for the sake of my H. We go to all their functions only to be ignored, Bad mouthed, and I'm made out to be a mean SM who mistreats them. Hub will not stand up for me at all. And he KNOWS the truth. One stern word from him would turn the tide I believe. It seems to get worse all the time (if that's possible).
I'm just waiting for them to have kids so they can be used to hurt me as well. I'm right there with you Bethany! Hang in there!
I had to chuckle....
Mary and stepmom-in-law.....my husband is afraid of hurting their feelings and losing their love. Fact is, what about OUR feelings? I am a very strong-minded Irish person and can assert myself easily, but I am also gentle and compassionate. Husband has bent over backwards for these 2 and do they ever even send him a birthday card? He's lucky to get a phone call...never a gift, never even one of them bringing him out to dinner. That would be a real shocker if one of them ever got outside of themselves. These adult stepkids are very self-centered and so very selfish. It's all about them. All the time. Only this time, I've become enlightened. They are no longer in my life. It's sad for my husband, but I've had enough of their lies and manipulation. The youngest SD, the 25 year old with a 3 year old, continues to blame me for HER having a baby. She and her bio mother expected I would take care of the baby....and, of course, pay her way. The gravy train has dried up....finally! Husband agreed to that. He is finally tired of supporting this one...she can grow up and get a job like the rest of us. Thanks for your support!
I envy you
The freedom to do that. To just say "NO MORE!" You're not using me that way anymore!"
I applaud you for your courage to go forward that way. I wish it were that simple for me. I feel unable to turn away from my Step son and his wife because of my husband. He is the only reason I have stayed with it as long as I have.(Step mom-20 Yrs & SMIL 3 Yrs)Same emotional situation for my Husband as yours. They will sit and talk to Him but ignore me.
UGH! I just dread going around them. Nothing but negativity.
Good for you though, and hang in there!
Blame
Oh God! I've been reading through some of these post, since I came here for help for problems with my 3 "adult" SD's.
So your SD blames YOU for her getting pregnant....that is hilarious because my youngest SD actually blamed her father, telling him that if he would have given her money for birth control pills, she never would have gotten pregnant! What a JOKE! She would have just spent that money on pot to smoke herself silly! She also blames me, saying that if her parents hadn't divorced.... yada yada yada......
I hear you........
Wickedsm2004
The more I think about it
the more I realize that today's kids are being raised by parents who(like my H and I) had to struggle growing up financially, with step parents too (me) and I can remember telling myself that my kids would HAVE the things I dreamed of as a kid if I had to work my fingers to the bone.. and thinking later when I became a step-parent that I would never do my step-son the way my step-Mom did me.. blah blah... and I have lived up to all of that. But in doing so have produced kids who feel entitled and that we owe them whatever they want and just can't see the sacrifices we made to give them all we never had.
I meet so many young people nowadays that are very narcissistic (sp?) in that the whole world MUST revolve around them and what they want and Their interests and to Hell with you if you don't like it. At the same time those same kids, while not 100% of them, seem unable to cope with making it on their own, and the parents are expected to dole out until the end of their lives. And they do! Because they fear the loss of that child's love.(and other reasons)
Some kids learn early on that starving their parents for affection and affirmation gets them whatever they want. AND it takes a tragedy to open their eyes to the fact that their parents did everything for them. Many times it is only in hindsight, and when it's too late.
We've had that lesson in my family. My sister passed away unexpectedly two years ago. She had taken a fall down her stairs at home the day before Christmas. She just got up, brushed herself off and got on with her life like the trooper she was. The impact from that fall perforated her upper bowel and she walked around like that for 3 weeks. Until this happened, we (There were 7 of us siblings) were busy living our own lives and we rarely visited one another, just on holidays, etc. Of course it's now only in hindsight that we personally feel that if we had been closer to her, someone might have noticed she was sick, and encouraged her to seek medical help. She didn't even know she was gravely ill because she never went to the doctor, and she was found having been deceased for about 2-3 days in her home. As we, assembled in her living room that night, listened to her voice messages from the previous two weeks None of us had called her to say "hi" even. So all the past disagreements, none of the petty arguments any of us had mattered, In HINDSIGHT.
But some people, children especially don't ever understand until then. What a lesson to have to learn.
Sorry, Long message and kinda deep, but I hope you see what I was getting at.
Barbara
same issue here
My husband and I are seeking professional help TOMORROW for the same problems with this Ex stepdaughter (29 yrs old) I will let you know how it goes and what the counselor says!
Sounds just like my husband!
We have gone through simular things when I found my SD and SSIL were using our biz debit cards for meals daily, and not just mcdonalds. I'm talking Ruth's Chris and Limosine service to and from, airfare for friends and family to come and visit, groceries, dvds, stuff from walmart, etc. And when I discovered it, my husband was angry with me. If you find a way to handle it.. please let me know.
Glad DH has said "no more"
I just LOVE children (at whatever age) who think they deserve respect from an older adult. Whatever happened to the truism that we respect our elders? Your SD sounds like a power freak and thinks she has it all. DH hasn't helped in changing that viewpoint, has he?
It took my hubby years to catch on, but I gently kept at it. He started getting the message once he spoke to other adults about it. They told him he was crazy to give them money and get abuse in return. Especially those friends that had witnessed the abuse through the skids disrespect.
I once wrote on a sticky note and hung it on the mirror where we put reminders to ourselves, "Insanity is doing the same thing, expecting different results." Try this on your hubby, maybe it will sink in.
One bit of advise: when my hubby did make the transition to "no more" I didn't MAKE him enforce it. If you find he "backslides" just give him a gentle reminder why he said "enough" in the first place. I think men struggle with "no more" because they equate their value as husbands and fathers so closely to their ability to provide financially. Gently remind him he is being an even better father by saying "enough" now. His own daughter's antics will reinforce that he made the right decision now.
adult step kids
My H has over-compensated for many years. We paid for a lot of stuff when it adversely impacted the budget back at home. I gave step kids my old car to drive for two years each (there are two of them). SD has an eating disorder. I am sick of looking at her emaciated bag of bones and hearing about how perfect she is if it weren't for her eating disorder. She is nice and sweet and likes to come see her father. After doing a lot of research I told her that if she comes over to our house she must eat and that she couldn't practice her restriction in our house anymore. Father is taking the lead albeit tentatively to enforce the eating schedule. I was looking forward to the day when step kids were adults so that now our marriage can be about us. This eating disordered has screwed that plan. She is now small frail and weak and must be cared for. Husband put her college bill in front of me and I simply won't contribute anymore. I feel as if my good nature has been taken advantage of for years. We overpaid bio mom so she could afford to live in her house which is close by....that was $18,000! Now they want more for college...I am done.
Adult SD
I am so feeling all the pain here. It is every issue that I have beening having.
Now my question is, If all of our DHs is doing the same with the adult SD; like give money out like we grow it, allowing them to be lazy and not support themselves nor their own children to which they used against GP, and knowing which buttons to push; do they ever change and realize that they are doing a disservice to the SD?
If your DH have finally seen the light, how did he finally get to that point?
Please please tell me there is something I can do.
your husbands a wimp and you
your husbands a wimp and you should stop doing anything for him or his kids until he feels man enough to treat you as his wife. honestly if it were me, I'd left him long ago.
I am in the same situation and I will agree my husband is a wimp
But I stay because I don't want my biological son to go through the trauma of another divorce. He is 14, once he leaves the house - we will see. I do not plan on living the rest of my life catering to his disrespectful, ungrateful grown daughters. One is THE most self centered person I have ever seen in all my 46 years. But Daddy says she is the closest thing to perfect he has ever seen - his exact words. It is always my fault if I bring anything they do to his attention. Over it.
devil's advocate
i realize playing the devil's advocate could get me shot. but it sounds like you want resolution. resolution usually requires compromise, so a look from the other side. this is not meant to be an attack but a different perspective. your situation is different from mine but perhaps it will help you find resolution, insight and a middle ground.
there is no price on respect.
i was taught to respect my elders as being one of the biggest virtues. but respect is a two way street. my sister played mom to me when i was a teen and young adult -- unknown to me she got access to my bank account when i was in my twenties. she lectured me on my spending habits. she didn't just do this to me, she did similar things to my other siblings by telling them what they can and can't afford. she often bought me gifts, but they were not gifts they were contracts. the contract: she would give me gifts in exchange that i divulge to her my income, my assets and let her lord over me. after the bank account invasion, i refused to accept even her treating me to a coffee. all of my siblings including myself are all reasonably successful career wise.
the peaking into my bank account was so invasive and disrespectful. it's been many years, but i don't trust her when it comes to any discussion about money, she's always judging. i don't tell her anything about my financial situation.
even though you have supplied her with all you have, i have to agree from experience of wearing the other shoes. by looking at her mail, you invaded your SD's privacy. if your SD had known that help from you meant she had to give up her privacy i think she may have reconsidered your help. your SD didn't see the fine print. helping someone does not entitle the giver to invade another's privacy -- it's disrespectful.
it sounds like your SD has a lot of issues and some growing up to do. but respect is still a two way street. she's hurt that you invaded her privacy and doesn't understand how you can't see the wrong in that. she thinks that because you see it as being an okay thing to do or even something you are entitled to do that you would do it again.
i'm sure my post will ruffle some feathers. it's not an attack but a view or voice from a different perspective.
i'm a forty-three year old step-mom of an SD10 and i am also a step-daughter.
heres an idea, it worked for us
Go to myspace and see if the 25 year old has a profile and waht she says...
we did that with dh's daughter and now after he sees what she is like, he has no problem at all standing up to her !
( after a few days where he was in shock, when he came back...
and was out of shock, he changed after seeing her myspace page)