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NEED ADVICE - Frustrated with arrogant, spoiled SS

CountRockula's picture

First of all, this is my first post. I've read a bit here but now I need some advice.

I'm posting this because Angel I'd like to vent and (B) I truly want some constructive advice and/or criticism.

I am a new SF to two children - SD07 and SS09 - but have been with their BM for about 3 years (we married recently).
Both children are generally sweet, well-behaved kids - my situation could be worse and that's what I'm trying to prevent. My SD07 is very sweet, respectful, loving and easy to deal with. We have the occasional, normal issues with her (not finishing homework, fighting with brother, not listening, etc) but she responds well when her mom and I correct the behavior and she rarely argues or throws a fit. She's very easy and I have a great relationship with her.

My SS09 on the other hand is incredibly difficult. He is respectful and polite to other adults (almost like Eddie Haskell) - including my parents and in-laws. He behaves well in public and does fine in school. It's almost as if he is turning on his poor behavior just for me and his mom. This is incredibly frustrating because the other adults in his life don't recognize the behavior we're dealing with and think we're too hard on him. It's hard to address the issues with the in-laws because they think he is perfect. In our home, he is very arrogant, rude, disrespectful, bossy, unappreciative, uncooperative and spoiled by his grandparents. I have bent over backwards for him while his BF is often absent and disappoints the kids on a regular basis. He often misses their sports activities, tells them they can visit him and then changes plans at the last minute, leaves them with his relatives on HIS weekends, etc, etc. On the other hand I take him to practice regularly, take him to special places (ie out to eat, ice cream, Toys R Us) to make him feel better when his BF ditches him, and make countless other attempts to be an overall positive male influence in his life. Yet, he is still very disrespectful to me, rarely says "thank you", argues with me about literally EVERYTHING and makes just about any attempt he can to be disruptive at home. He is unwilling to help his mom and I unless there is something in it for him. He rolls his eyes and resents doing most of what we ask him to do. He is a "fairness Nazi" and is constantly whining about things not being even between his sister and him even though we make a great effort to make sure things are fair between them because of his mentality - often doing more for him to avoid his fits. He is manipulative and will do anything in his power to not do what he is asked to do. When I try to talk to him about his poor choices in behavior, he often looks away or laughs at me or dissects what I am saying to him and argues with me. For example (and this is what prompted me to post this message), I simply asked the kids to make their beds this morning. This is their morning routine and they are expected to do it. But in his usual, defiant way, my SS just threw the blanket on the bed and walked away. When I called him back to fix it, he began to argue with me. This was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. I told him he was very disrespectful and reminded him that I had just given him a "$25" GC to the itunes store and loaded it on his iPad so that he can download some games. I did this for him last night while his sister helped me and my wife clean the garage for several hours. Sadly, its easier to just let him play video games than to try and coerce him to help out (his sister volunteered FYI). When I reminded him this morning that I do nice things for him regularly and he didn't even say "thank you" when I stopped everything I was doing to help him, his response was "well...it was actually only a $15 gift card". I hope you understand just how infuriating that comment was. He has absolutely no regard for what you say to him and only cares about what others can do for him. He does not seem to appreciate anything his mom and I do for him and is unwilling to cooperate with us most of the time. All I asked the kid to do was fix his bed the right way - the way he is supposed to do it every day. I realize this may seem like an insignificant issue by itself, but when you wake up to it and walk in the door from work to it EVERY DAY, it gets exhausting.

I told my wife this morning what happened and told her that Im done with him. I refuse to spend another dollar on him, take him anywhere or give him any more special privileges. I'm completely over it. His behavior is dismantling our otherwise healthy relationship and he causes a great deal of stress in our house. I tried to explain this to my wife but of course she can't seem to see it from my perspective. I'm afraid his behavior is going to get worse as he grows into his pre-teen and teen years and I'm not sure how to deal with it. I want to correct it but often I feel like I don't have the support of my wife or family. I would do anything to protect his well-being but other than that, I don't care. When he is not around, I don't miss him or think about him. I hate that I feel this way but it has honestly gotten to that point. I want to have a better relationship with him but I simply cannot accept his behavior nor look past it or tolerate it in my home.

Sorry for the very long post but I would love some advice from others who are in my position.

onthefence2's picture

My kids' dad is generally the same as far as showing up for stuff. I bet your ss is angry. I would be. My son started having anger issues right around 9/10 and that's when he started going through puberty. He was just angry and couldn't even verbalize why. So there's that.

And then there is everything you are allowing him to do. There needs to be consequences for his behavior. A lecture is not a consequence. It is REALLY hard being consistent all the time, but it has to happen if you want a positive outcome. Decide with your wife what the expectations and consequences should be, and then discuss with the kids. Then follow through EVERY time. My kids are 13boy and 11girl now and I wish I could say I can see the light, but OMG I don't think there is one...

tootie25's picture

I totally agree with onethefence2. There needs to be consistent consequences to his disrespect. If he doesn't do as he's told then he loses his iPad and he will have to do so many different chores to get it back. If he doesn't want to do anything then no iPad. Very simple. Gotta hit em where it hurts.

And developmentally speaking, kids that age are completely egocentric. The world revolves around them and bad things are the worst thing ever- complete life ruiners. Lol but the sense of entitlement your ss seems to feel has been programmed into him. This needs to change. Perhaps stop giving him things except for birthdays or holidays and make him earn what he wants. If he does his chores everyday at the end of the week he gets $x.xx

Hopefully your SO is on board with raising her child to not be an entitled self indulgent brat. But in case she isn't ask yourself how it is you are presenting your frustrations to her. It goes without saying that mother's are fiercely defensive of their children and unless it was brought to me in a calm caring "I want to make things better for our family and help guide your son since his father is unable to do so" manner- I would just get pissed off and ignore you as well!

CountRockula's picture

I'd be lying if I said I never bring up his behavior to my SO while tempers are running hot. But there have been just as many times when I calmly explain to her my frustrations. She agrees and is *almost* as frustrated as I am. The trouble is getting her to be consistent. I have discussed this with her and she usually responds with a very passive "I knooow...I'm frustrated too" but there is very little follow-through on her part. I feel as if I'm the primary disciplinarian and I don't want to be - I truly think that is part of the problem. A majority of the discipline is coming from me and I'm afraid he is going to resent me for it. Through his eyes, I'm sure I seem pretty mean because his mom rarely disciplines.

In regard to his discipline, we take things from him regularly. Right now, his video game privileges are revoked for most of the day. He is allowed to play for about an hour in the evening IF he has made it through the day without the aforementioned issues. There have been many WEEKS though where he has lost all games. It just doesn't seem to get through to him! He ALWAYS reverts back to his arrogant behavior.

We've even tried positive reinforcement but with very little avail. We have something called "bonus points" where basically the kids get a token every time we catch them using good behavior without having to be asked. They can then trade in the points for extra bed-time, video games, a snack, etc. The SS even turns this into a sour experience for us because he argues about how much his sister has and complains when she earns them and he doesn't. (Bonus Points is something I implemented BTW after months of trying to get my wife on board. She says it's "too much work and complicated for the kids". They generally think its fun.)

Its very frustrating dealing with this issue and having a partner that DOES recognize the problem, says we DO need to address it but gets defensive when I bring it up and refuses to follow through with discipline on a consistent basis. I feel like Im banging my head against a wall here!