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Growing resentment towards DH, as he thinks I don't 'try hard enough' with his kids

QueenofIndifference's picture

I've been married to DH for only a handful of years, though we certainly dated for a few years prior to marriage. To this day, I still question why he proposed, considering we knew from the get-go that his twin daughters would like be a 'tough to manage' situation. To begin...this is a bit of a rant, I really just need to speak to other people that may have been in this situation, too. DH doesn't sympathize with my point of view, so my resentment has grown and grown (unfortunately). He likes to claim that if he were a step-parent, he would love any of my children as if they were his own. I snort at this, but he's firm on that belief. Okay Sir

The first time I met his daughters before he and I were married, the girls were roughly six years of age, possibly five. They were both completely mute the entire time when we took them out to a fun halloween faire. They wouldn't speak a single word, not a single smile, or anything to me. It was super awkward. I knew then that I probably wouldn't ever connect with them, but tried to stay positive. This continued over the years- they chose to remain mute in my presence, but here's the catch: they ALSO wouldn't speak to my husband's parents or his siblings. Basically, it became clear to me that both children (maybe the twin factor adds something to this) have some form of selective mutism. My DH's own sister, who has children of her own, even said to me one day, 'yeah...they are kinda strange kids. totally weird.' 

The girls are 10 years old now. I will say this, they are well-behaved girls. They aren't troublemakers. The problem is, I just don't enjoy having them around because it's like having strangers in my house (the house that I own and bought myself) every other weekend, along with 2 nights during the week. I can't find a reason to be interested in them or care about them. I'm literally empty of it and I know that's terrible, but over the years I've found nothing to grasp at in order to form a relationship of any sort with them. They can speak- they talk incessantly to their father when I'm elsewhere in the house. They just choose not to speak if anyone who isn't him is around. 

Whenever I tell DH I wish we could have them around less, he goes off the handle that I need to try harder to 'be their friend', that if I tried harder, they would probably be wonderful with me, that they would talk to me tons, that I need to 'be an adult' and get over the fact that they are 'small children' and don't talk to me. Puh-lease. We have a neice from his side of the family only a few months older than his girls and the neice is reserved/shy, but she will sit down and chat with me about books and music, smile when she sees me, etc. I adore her and she doesn't even live in the same state! Instant connection. It drives me nuts that DH can't see that his children acting like mutes at 10 years of age doesn't endear them to people. How can you expect someone to keep trying when the other people won't interact?

Some examples of botched attempts to connect w/DH's children:

*I've taken one to get earrings for her newly pierced ears- she said thanks when approprate, but nothing else the entire time, even though we went to multiple stores. I tried to get her to speak, to make it fun, but nothing. DH was so thrilled I 'did something' for her even though the experience was terribly unpleasant for me. 

*At the dinner table, if DH isn't present, I try to get them to talk....and basically just get nods or shakes of the head until he returns to the table. This happened for 10 minutes once while he was in the bathroom. It felt like years. Have you ever sat and talked to a wall before? Holy cow, people! 

*If I cooked a meal and they like it, they tell DH, not me. He has to tell the what to say to me and force them to say it to me. 

*Board games or the like: a few smiles here and there, but no conversation. 

*Holidays are the worst, especially because holidays are usually with my family. I'm very much invested in my family and can't help but feel like the girls are intruders (terrible, I know...). The girls don't engage with anyone really, they just sit around and stare. Barely answer questions if acknowledged. My family tried so hard to get them comfortable the first two years, but now my mom will just say, 'have them bring something to entertain themselves with', because no one wants to pay attention to them anymore or try getting them to talk. I feel awful for my mom, because she so wanted granchildren (and I don't think I'm ever going to have them), so she wanted these girls to see her as a grandma, but they still only refer to her as my mother. My mom is so sweet and child friendly, so it just drives me mad to see her try so hard and these girls give back so little. I feel like I've inflicted these kids upon them and it just makes me feel awful. I at least finally got it so they don't come to my mom's house with us on Christmas day (their mother doesn't celebrate christmas so apparently that means we automatically get them every year, which I hate, so it was a small battle to at least get them dropped off at her house so we can have a celebration without them there, sitting in a corner staring at us all). 

*I try watching movies with the girls, but when the movie ends, they just get up and leave. 

*Take them to my horse barn with DH in tow, try to teach them how to handle the animals, have them ride. They don't really talk the entire time, unlike other children younger than them who are more than happy to come up and chat to adults and ask how they can help around the barn in order to earn a ride.

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I'm tired of DH not caring that these kids make it uncomfortable for me to live in my own house. I basically just don't really associate with them much, because it doesn't make any difference if I talk to them or not. Why go out of my way?

It's been a few years and things just haven't changed. DH keeps claiming it will change when they 'get older'. Hah, when? When they are 18? He acts like they are infants and will grow out of it. My mother is of the mind that it's too late already, that if they haven't warmed up to anyone by now, they probably never will. 

It's a shame. I really wish they were more pleasant. I wish they were kids I could like and connect with, but they aren't. My husband blames me as if I'm some awful person because I don't think they are the best kids ever. He even wanted us to go talk to someone about my 'resentment' about them being around. I was like, are you kidding me?

But seriously, am I totally the witch for not connecting with these kids? For not liking when they come to our house? For not wanting to be around them much anymore? Has anyone else dealt with stepkids who just ignore everyone but their biological parents?

Dogmom1321's picture

Count your blessings! Your DH wants the perfect Brady Bunch family. Not happening. Both of your expectations need to be shifted. He isn't going to get the warm and fuzzy relationships he thought. You aren't going to get the small talk, how was your day, etc. No amount on either end of DH or yourself is going to change their personality. It's not a matter of you "not trying hard enough", it's just who they are. 

It also really bothers me too, that your DH is essentially blaming you for their standoff-ishness. What specifically has HE done to try to facilitate a relationship between you three? Does he also blame other family members when his kids are acting this way? Just something to keep in the back of your mind.... I would 100% be resentful too if problems were being blamed on me with zero support. 

QueenofIndifference's picture

He certainly does seem to be in fairy tale land that everyone is going to be super happy in the end. He's the glass is half full and I'm the glass is half empty. 

Any conversation is compeltely forced. DH tries to facilitate it sometimes, but it just doesn't really go anywhere. He and I usually spend dinner just talking to each other and they just sit there quietly, poking at their food (they are the pickiest eaters and I actually WON that battle. I privately told DH I was sick and tired of cooking for kids that would pick at my food and make faces and complain to him with me right there. I told him it was rude. Flat out that they are rude children to act in such a disgusting manner. He was a little horrified by how pissed I was about it, but low and behold....next dinner he reduced one of them to tears because she made a face and called something disgusting. Never again have I heard a food complaint and I told DH I was pleased with how he handled that).

Sometimes I'll excitedly tell a story at the dinner table with a lot of animation, and sometimes I'll get smiles out of them, but nothing else. It's just odd...but since things aren't getting better and I'm just losing interest completely, it's causing DH more frustration. I'm sure us being locked up in the house all the time doesn't help. I am super sick of him just brushing off many of my irritations because 'I don't like them' and that 'I need to see a counselor to help with my resentment'. 

failuretolaunch's picture

I've just re-read your post (properly) and this is not normal at all. What reports do you get back from the school on this?

They are very odd and I could not live like that. Your DH is in denial. They may grow out if it but when people live in hope of that they could be damaging the development of their kids.

Ive known parents who clearly know something is right with their kids (autism) and instead of getting a diagnosis they deny it, which means the child doesn't get the help or support they need.

notarelative's picture

They don't talk to you. They don't talk to his siblings. They don't talk to DH's parents (their grandparents). DH doesn't think this is strange?

DH needs to take the girls (and himself) to counseling.

QueenofIndifference's picture

Hah, yeah he makes the excuse that 'he was shy when he was a kid too'. I'm pretty sure his mother would have told me about that (considering she too finds the quietness odd). Normally mothers make that connection and go 'oh, he was just like that as a little sprout!' I'll have to ask her one of these days so I can use it as ammo against him the next time he claims they are quiet because he was quiet. 

They've graduated to mostly the bare minimum of conversation with family, but you have to ask them either about school and what they did, usually they give a short answer. If you ask about a video game they may give you a bit more. Basically, there are very few things they will actually hold a conversation about. 

I recall telling him that they might need therapy. I know one of them did have to see a counselor at some point because she was crying during the day at school and at night that she missed her mother (whom she is with half of the week when she's not with us). So, either they have super anxiety or something else going on, I don't know. DH has anxiety and his ex wife has depression, so I imagine it could make a nasty mix if the children got BOTH! 

But no- husband wants me to see someone on why I can't connect with his kids and why I resent them being in my house. Heckin A, maybe I will go see a therapist and see if they tell me, 'well, shoot, you aren't nutto, he is!' :D 

Kaylee's picture

Additionally, you mention that it is your house, which you own. 

Your husband has no right to tell you what to do in your own home. He should actually be so grateful that you allow his kids to stay/come over.

I think you should explain that you are not comfortable with their behavior and that it is up to him to take them to counseling to try and sort it.

QueenofIndifference's picture

Oh gosh, tell me about it. It's mine in name and in heart, because I bought the thing myself with a very hefty downpayment. He replaced some appliances and pays half the mortgage, so it's slowly becoming more his....but very slowly. 

When we originally were looking at homes, his ex wife actually had the nerve to complain that we didn't bring the girls with to see houses with us. I was literally blown away that she thought they had an opinion in the matter. I think I almost cackled like a witch when I heard it bothered her. I was sitting there thinking, 'lady, if you think I care what your antisocial kids want in a house that I'm buying, you have another thing coming'. 

Honestly, I wish it were that simple to simply say he should be glad they are allowed over. Seeing as we're married, that never goes over well. I have threatened to go rent myself an apartment though if thinks ever get bad when they are teenagers. That bothers him immensely. Honestly, the man is always worried I'm going to leave him, so I don't understand why he can't just do one simple thing, like having them at the house one day less during the week. That would make such a difference.

Survivingstephell's picture

As I read your story all I could think of was that they are creepy twins from The Shining.  
 

This is a DH problem to fix. If he thinks they are normal and approves of their behaviors, then you are free.  Stop trying.  I mean if he sees them and struggles with them himself to get them to talk to you, what else can you do?   
Since they don't talk, I'd put them in notice of their little game out of earshot from DH.  If they do say something, just deny it and say how could that be, you know they don't talk.  My point is stop trying and love yourself more.  

QueenofIndifference's picture

LOL! My father makes the same jokes about them Biggrin

I wish DH saw it that way. He has tried to get them to be more talkative, but it just doesn't work. Sometimes I'll get a sentence or two, but nothing much more. He claims I'm 'intimidating', but that they both look up to me (yeah, yeah, whatever). I'll take the intimidating I suppose, even though I don't enforce any rules or do any sort of scolding. Not sure how that makes me scary. My migraines, maybe, when I feel like death and just disappear like a ghost to my room? Who knows. 

I suppose I found my father intimidating when I was young and I never knew how to talk to him back then...but my father also had an outragerous temper and an intense personality, so I had some serious reason to be intimidated by him. These girls have never even seen me angry (and I try very hard to make sure they never know when I'm irritated, because that would 'scare' them more). 

GrudgingSM's picture

I think there's tons of great advice above, including pointing out that others notice it and the behavior is the same with others. Also, DH needs to talk to some other stepdad 's. I think it helps me that when mine says that he wishes I was closer with his kids, I can point to my child and say that there's no love there either. There's kindness and respect on both sides, and that's enough for me. I honestly think it would be weird if he treated him like his own child. That's bizarre. And maybe it's just the nature of this form, but it seems way more like an XY chromosome thing to feel like your children are an extension of you, and not loving them must be some sort of lack of love for you or judgment of you. I really don't get why men are so hung up on the performance of family. Why isn't kindness and respect enough? I think I'm just talking to myself at this point, but there's no way you're DH can say that he knows exactly how he would feel in a complex emotional situation he's never been in.

QueenofIndifference's picture

It is definitely noticed by so many people around us. Basically, the whole family (mine and his) notice the oddity, but he just brushes it off that they're 'shy'. They do talk to kids. They will open up to adults who 'act like children' aka silly, but forget it if you don't have the personality to get down on the ground and make goofy smiles and gestures to make them feel comfortable. Even then, they are relatively reserved. 

Sometimes, he has gotten embarrassed by them not replying to people, angry enough to yell at them, but it is a rare occasion. I think he just doesn't want to admit there might actually be a personality issue here of some sort. I can understand being shy, but why not speak to your aunts and uncles, grandparents, etc? 

That's interesting to me that you have the 'be closer' issue and you both have children! I'm surprised your DH would even ask that of you if he isn't very close to your children. Men...funny stuff. 

Rumplestiltskin's picture

To me, the main problem is your husband. It's one thing to have the kids be quiet but respectful, but to have him criticize *you* because his kids won't connect is insulting. You aren't their mom. You don't owe them anything but to be polite and see that their needs are met. Honestly, they don't owe you anything but to be respectful and to follow the rules. If your husband wasn't blaming you and acting like their personality issue is somehow your fault, knowing they are like that with others too, maybe you could at least have some peace and quiet while they are there.

 Plus, it's sooo easy for him to say he would be bff's with any kids you would have had, knowing he will never be in that situation. He sounds like a delusional jerk. Don't feel pressured to be or do anything other than you are. I would say maybe stop trying so hard and accept that a polite distance is going to be it. You do you. They can do them. 

QueenofIndifference's picture

It's tough. I mostly do disengage from a lot of stuff, because he understood from the get-go that I wouldn't be their mom. I don't clean their room, I don't do their laundry, I don't take them to school, etc. He does quite a bit in the department of 'dad', almost to the extremes, because they live like 40 minutes away from us and he drives back and forth to get them to school and the like. He goes above and beyond for them in my opinion, because he fears being 'a bad dad'. It's just unfortunate that he believes his kids will build long-lasting relationships with other people in the family when they simply don't have the personalities for it. I mean, they wouldn't even hug DH's parents when they came to visit, and they had certainly had many 'sleep overs at grandmas' when they were little...I gently corrected that behavior and told them to hug their grandparents...I simply couldn't fathom children not hugging their own family that came to visit! They hugged them after being told to...like I said, well-behaved...but very distant to everyone. 

My favorite is when DH claims he was like this as a kid as a way of excusing their behavior towards people. I intend to ask his mother about that LOL! I think she would have mentioned it to me, because she also thinks it's quite a shame that the kids are so distant to people. She's always like 'and I'm their grandma and they don't say much to me!' 

It's good to hear from other people that how I feel isn't unusual. It sucks that I have to feel the resentment on my end that I just don't want these kids in my house more than necessary, but my fingers are crossed that eventually they won't want to come here as often because all their friends are too far away to visit (aka, their friends parents don't want to drive 35-40 minutes one way just to drop their kids off at a house for a short playdate. I certainly don't blame them). 

Winterglow's picture

But do they actually have friends? It sounds to me as if they have created a "twins' world" where they get to choose who gets in. Some twins do this by creating their own language. Your step twins are doing it by not speaking. It's maybe time they were split up a little... 

Just out of curiosity, do they like to dress alike?

Rags's picture

Well behaved kids are not rude nor do they behave as you describe your DH's failed family progeny behaving.

Up your behavioral standards for child behavior in your home and family.

And for sure quit tolerating your DH's gaslighting bullshit of blaming you because his rude spawn will not connect with you.

QueenofIndifference's picture

I have told him many times that they are rude. Sometimes, it does get through his thick skull, to his credit. I did win a fight about one of them being very rude at the dinner table (as in making faces at the food, no matter who made it, making snide comments to him that it was gross etc). I told DH in private that SD was rude and an incredibly disgusting child and that I was sick and tired of being at the dinner table with her and wouldn't do it ever again until he put a stop to it. He screamed at her the next time it happened and she wailed and cried in humiliation. I honestly loved every second of it. The rudeness at the table never happened again. I told him that sometimes fear works wonders into shaping a child up. 

But, mostly he is adverse to acknowledging that their unwillingness to socialize is rude. This is literally the man that was still wiping their butts when they were 6 or 7 years old! I laughed at him and he was delusional enough to believe it was normal that they 'couldn't do it themselves'. I told his sister and she laughed at him too and told him they need to grow up and wipe themselves, because what do they do at school, ask a teacher? That shamed DH into changing that pretty fast. Basically, he babies them. 

I agree that his gaslighting it BS, though he likes to claim I'm the master gaslighter. Who knows, maybe I am, because some occurances bother him for days and I just stop caring about them five minutes after they happen, because I disengage from it. 

The worst part about the whole situation is that there was a time when he actually thought things were going well. I didn't voice any disagreements for like a month and he literally thought 'things were getting better for me'. That pisses me off. 

failuretolaunch's picture

I know how you feel. SK2 is the same, he's kinda like it with everyone. He is rude and sullen. He won't say morning, or goodnight and if he leaves the house and he has to pass you he won't even say goodbye. He might and I mean might if it was him mum.

His mum used to get so embarrased by his muteness in certain situations. He does have issues though, couldn't tell you what they are. Chronic shyness, I don't know but I am sure he is more verbal with his friends, who knows.

He would leave the room when I come into it, it's got a bi better but he won't engage start a conversation with me, I can chat to him if I get involved in a chat with him and his mum, but as soon as his mum leaves the room he will more than likely go.

If I try to engage in a conversation with him, I feel like I have got a prisoner trapped in an interrogation room.

You mention you neice. Well same here. All his cousins and anybody else pretty much his age I can sit down and have a lovely chat with, and the conversation isn't just one word answers, so I know it's not me. I've tried and I've just got to a point, especially after finding this site recently that I'm just going to do bare minimum. Be kind, offer food if I've made a big pot of it, but that is about it. I'm not really going to engage with him and if I don't get much back I'm just not going to let it bother me anymore, because it used too. 

Unfortunately you have to go on holiday with yours still, so I feel your pain. It's just horrible to sit there feeling uncomfortable and I completely understand how you feel. I am jus being patient and hope they are not around much and leave soon as they are 18+ now. Good luck

Are they the same with BD?

failuretolaunch's picture

Just to add, SK2 wasn't always mute. He drove me crazy at 6 as he couldn't stop talking but he would cling to his mum, it must have been hard at the time with the split and me coming along.

Again what are they like with him. I should add when they are alone with him / if you can overhear. It seems VERY weird.

Of course he's going to blame you, it's easier than facing it and dealing. I envisage my partner blaming me for her failings and the ex's at some point. I'm literally just waiting for it.

tog redux's picture

He has no business telling you how you "should" feel. Although I don't necessarily think it's fair for you to say you want them around less, unless that extra time involves you having to watch them.

He needs to get them some therapy.