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101Stepmom101's picture

Bio Mom seems to love to insert herself / change / control our schedule and CO with the kids.
Example: This weekend is my husbands weekend with the kids. Pick up on Friday Drop off on Monday. Bio wanted to get step daughter for 4-5 hours this weekend either Saturday or Sunday... so Bio and Stepdaughter can get their hair done.
Bio doesn't work. The kid are out of school. There is no reason she can't do this on HER TIME with the kids.

The problem is ~ My DH doesn't see a problem with it. I do.. and a HUGE one. It's intrusion on his time with the kids. We have to stop what we are doing and plan around when and where she wants to meet / pick up. Bio usually changes her mind 3 times about location on where exchange happens and she usually tried to fight with my DH about it EVERY TIME. Causing multiple phone calls and texts back and forth. Which causes extra extra stress ~ on everyone.

Things like this seem to happen more often than none. It's frustrating for me. It causes stress with my husband and I. I would be more understanding if it was something important. Or if her family member had a Birthday and she wanted the kids for a dinner on his time. I would be ok with that. I wouldn't be thrilled but I would be understanding to it. I think my DH is catering to BIO when he allows BIO to take away from his time and lets her screw up our weekend.

I just needed to vent. Thanks for listening.

SM12's picture

Not sure if you have kids of you own but if you do, you need to go ahead with whatever plans you had with your children and let your DH stay behind and deal with BM drama and schedule changes.

Plan a trip to the zoo, If DH agrees to let BM have the kids for 4 hour or so, "Sorry DH, we made plans and are keeping them. You can stay home with SD and do the drop off and pick up while we do what we planned to do"

One of two things will happen, either SD will get sick of missing out on the fun and say NO to BM's requests of your time or TWO your DH will get sick and tired of being on BM time schedule.

101Stepmom101's picture

Bio is a NUT JOB... She actually refused to come to our home... It's insane.

101Stepmom101's picture

Thank you for the advice. It might sound wrong but... I just want to cut her out of our life anymore than we have to have her in it. She causes so much stress and manipulation and is always trying to control us. It's just another way to control. So frustrating...

hereiam's picture

She couldn't arrange this on HER time? Oh, of course not, because this is her way of proving who is boss.

Bio usually changes her mind 3 times about location on where exchange happens and she usually tried to fight with my DH about it EVERY TIME. Causing multiple phone calls and texts back and forth.

To me, it sounds like she's just showing who is in control. Your DH needs to put a stop to this.

101Stepmom101's picture

Exactly! It's a control thing.
It's saying ~ "I can do what I want.. when I want. Who cares if it interferes with your plans. Ex Husband can't say NO to me."

But ~ Hubby finally ~ after hours of fighting about it with me ~ DH told her No. We have plans ~ you will have to plan that on your time. Which should of been his answer to her when she asked.

Maxwell09's picture

You cannot value your DH's time with his kids more than he does. Make plans without your SO. Take the rest of the kids to do whatever you had planned without your husband going on these weekends so he can't sit around waiting for her then come join y'all later.

justanotherjoe's picture

101Stepmom101,

You are absolutely correct. One thing that your husband should understand is that the court order is the court order. The amount of visitation time is no more a suggestion than the amount of child support. As pertaining to child custody, visitation, and child support, the idea is for BOTH PARENTS to look after the child's best interests - financially and emotionally. One piece of advice that my lawyer had given me over ten years ago was that it was very important for child support to be paid on time and for visitation schedule to be followed religiously.

He also advised me that the court understands that things come up the require both parents to be flexible. However, the total amount of time the non-custodial parent spends with their child should ultimately never face a reduction. Also, flexibility should be exercised with discretion. Flexibility for the sake of being a good citizen can easily become a slippery slope that results in the visitation schedule becoming arbitrary in comparison to what is in the court order. This undermines the stability and consistency that is important for kids - particularly those that live in two different households.

I don't let discussions about the visitation schedule get out of control. The way that I see it is that, if the weekend is my weekend, it is my choice to be flexible or not. It takes two people to have an argument. I'd politely excuse myself and would hang up on her if I must. If she starts a barrage of texts, I'd block her number for an hour. She knows that I will be at her house to get my daughter on the Friday before the contested weekend like clockwork. With that said, here is my opinion in the form of what I would do in your husband's situation:

If my daughter's mom called me and said "I need to have her this weekend because we have a hair appointment", my answer would be "Sorry, but we have plans". That's it. There would be nothing on the end of that sentence that would indicate that the door was open for negotiation. I would tell her to have a nice day and excuse myself. I would not hang on the phone and listen to silence, sighs, or give her a chance to push harder.

Now, if my daughter's mom called me and said "My sister's wedding is during your weekend and we need to get our hair done the morning of the wedding", my answer would be "If I can have her the weekend of (insert preferable date here), that would be OK for me". If she does not agree, then there is no deal. I don't care if the weekend that I choose happens to have another event, holiday, etc. If she agrees, I send her a meeting request (yes, from my e-mail account) that encompasses the alternate weekend and the content of the meeting request has a summary of our discussion.

You see, the reason that I do this is that, unless she accepts the meeting request, the deal is off. That way, if she tries to renege on the alternate arrangement, I have evidence of the deal going bad. She knows why she gets the meeting request - it's to hold her accountable as well as to keep a record of how often she requests changes. So, not only does she not renege on these alternate arrangements, she doesn't make a habit of them.

Also, I do not exercise flexibility with a mere part of my weekend. Flexibility in my case always comes in the form of trading weekends. We live too far away from each other to mess around with splitting days and hours. It also makes for easier time accounting.

I hope this helps.

101Stepmom101's picture

justanotherjoe ~ very helpful. Thank you.

DH did not end up letting BIO take her. And ~ exactly I would understand if it was for something special like a wedding or something. But, I was just when Bio wanted to do it. A control thing. She thinks It's her world.. we are just living in it. She has the kids 68% of the time. Plenty of time to schedule this on HER time. My DH ALWAYS leaves the door open for negotiation. He has a hard time saying flat out "NO" to her. It drives me crazy. Sad

Rags's picture

Based on your description.. you would do yourself a favor by getting DH a book on Co-dependency. He and BM are likely the poster child example of the problem.

101Stepmom101's picture

Oh yes... they have always been very Co-Dependent. It has gotten much better over the years. But, even a few weeks ago he even put oil in Bio's car. He said she didn't know where to put it and he did it for the kids ~ not her. She could of asked HER husband to do it... but, she loves that my DH will still do things for her. I was not very happy.

She has the kids call their father at least twice a day. I think it's more for BIO ~ than the kids... so get on the phone and talk to him after the kids say "HI. Love you. Miss you. Here's Mom." Then she tells my husband about their life. Not the kids. It must be so frustrating for the kids not to be able to talk to their dad. She gets mad at them if they tell their father things.

secret's picture

my SO did things like this at the beginning of our relationship.

He didn't do it for the kids, the kids don't drive.

Next time you do, you can say something like:

"You're doing things for another woman. The kids don't drive - she's an adult, she's an ex... if you wouldn't do it for another ex, you shouldn't be doing it for her... she's adult enough to take her ass to a garage if she's too stupid to learn to put oil in her tank. It's her husband's job to take care of things like that, not yours. How would you feel if another man did husbandly things for me?"

or

"A man changes the oil for 3 women in his life. His mother, his daughter, and his wife - that b!tch is neither of those."

101Stepmom101's picture

lol exactly... I was not happy

The cap usually says "oil"
He could of pointed it out to her... that's where it goes. Make that B&^%$ get dirty herself!

Part of me feels like he likes being needed and doing things for her still. Or at least that is how it makes me feel when he does.

hereiam's picture

She shouldn't even be driving a car if she doesn't know how to put oil in it.

But that is beside the point, the real problem is your husband.

secret's picture

Yep... she's batting her eyes and playing damsel in distress.

To the wrong man.

He's playing the role of the white knight.

To the wrong woman.

Rags's picture

NO is the most powerful word your DH needs to add to his vocabulary with BM. He needs to use it often.