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Nala's picture

I'm here as I don't know where else to turn with this. To get quickly to the point, my fiancé's S10 makes me very uncomfortable. Fiancé and I dated for 8 months before involving his children, ages 8 & 10. Fairly early S10 seemed to really like having me join them in family activities, which I thought was sweet. Not long, however, S10 and I had to wait at the house door for S8 and fiancé to catch up with us. S10 motioned that he was going to hug me, but then started squeezing my butt, saying "butt massage". I pulled away immediately and said that wasn't appropriate. He then went about his business as though nothing happened. Fast forward a few months, s10 entered the kitchen where his dad and I were making dinner. S10 motioned that he was going to hug me but then attempted to grope my breast! I pushed him away and again told him that it was not appropriate. S10 left the room and fiancé asked me what just happened. Shortly after, S10 entered the room again and kissed my butt (I wasn't aware of what happened, as my back was turned. I felt a brushing but had no idea until fiancé whisked S10 to his room and had a stern talking to him). They've been on a two week vacation with their mom since then, so I haven't been around them. S10 has autistic tendencies, but certainly not a full on diagnosis. It's as though he just doesn't get that what he's doing is wrong. He's actually a pretty loving kid at times, but these occurrences have made me very uncomfortable. I told fiancé that I WILL NOT EVER be alone with his boys until they've received counseling and help (S8 is ADHD and very disrespectful). I see this as a huge red flag, but I love fiancé, obviously, and would like to make a life with him. Help.

Nala's picture

No this is my first post; i just set up an ID tonight. I would be interested in reading the thread if someone else has walked a similar path.

Indigo's picture

Absolutely. There was a SM with a SS on the spectrum who would accidentally touch her breast, touch her butt, mimic DH's behavior. Wish I could remember who she was. Not an unfamiliar story. Sorry if I misunderstood.

Nala's picture

No. Fiancé doesn't do those things, especially in front of the children i wonder if they've seen this behavior while with their mom and her boyfriend (affair partner of 3 years). Ugh!

Nala's picture

Is it my place to sit S10 down and tell him how his behavior makes me feel really uncomfortable? I feel like he's a time bomb waiting to go off. What if he were to do this same behavior to a girl in his class?

Nala's picture

Are 10 year old boys like this these days? Mine are 16 and 19, and I never experienced anything even remotely close to this. It makes me wonder if SS10 has been inappropriately touched himself, is he viewing porn, WTH?

Indigo's picture

I've got a BS-13 and he is not like this with myself, with other female adult friends or female young friends/SGD-12 --- that I know of !!

However, a girlfriend of 15 years came to Christmas uninvited two years ago, her BS is Autistic, highly-functioning, verbal, hi-IQ and he used BS's phone to set up "redtube" porn. Mom camped on my couch, surfed dating sites, corresponded to the "nice" sex-offender ex-bf, trolled for a new BF, drank and was a leech. I asked her to leave before New Years. BS got his ass handed to him and had the opportunity to paint the yard fence. Preteen/teen angst? Autism social shadowing? Crappy parenting? No clue.

I work with a number of boys who are "on the Spectrum" and not one has ever grabbed a breast by accident or made me feel uncomfortable.

So, I'm no expert, but my gut tells me this is not "normal" for traditional preteen boys or boys on the Spectrum. Again, I've got no real help for you tonight.

Nala's picture

Ick regarding the girlfriend and her son. Glad you had some boundaries with that and asked them to leave.

Nala's picture

You are right, Cooookie. I think SS needs to know what could happen if he continues this behavior. I hate it. I want to love him, but am really apprehensive to even let him get near me.

Nala's picture

Exactly. That's what I have said to fiancé as well. This is a timebomb if it doesn't get addressed.

Coooookie, are you comfortable with your SS now? Are you able to love him?

Nala's picture

I'm new to all of this... maybe it's asking too much to think that I might one day love his children?

fedupstep's picture

"S10 has autistic tendencies, but certainly not a full on diagnosis. It's as though he just doesn't get that what he's doing is wrong."

This could be true...if he has 'autistic tendencies' he may struggle with social norms. He must have heard the term 'butt massage' somewhere and witnessed someone doing it. As for trying to grab your breasts? He's in a curious age and maybe without typical social filters. Your DH needs to address this with him and look at programs for him to teach him social skills.

I've worked with enough ASD kids (and been groped enough) to know this can be turned around if DH is consistant and starts NOW. The longer he waits, the worse it will be once sexual urges start and then you are dealing with a bigger, stronger kid with raging hormones.

Good luck!

Nala's picture

"So are you telling us YOU are the only one who he touches inappropriately." I wish I knew the answer to this. Fiancé isn't aware of this type of behavior towards others, other than SS10 tends to be pretty "loving" towards people, meaning that he opens up quickly with most anyone.

And I agree, I am most definitely protecting myself on this. As I told fiancé, there is NO WAY that I will ever be left alone with his boys at this time. I will not waiver on this. Fiancé has been trying to get agreement to get the boys in counseling*, but it seems that everything is a battle with their BM. Fiancé and BM go before a judge again tomorrow, so hopfully counseling can get started soon. BM didn't like that fiancé was able to schedule an appt with a counselor the boys had success with long before divorce proceedings. She didn't like that he "tainted the well" by providing the counselor with the child custody evaluation, which didn't look favorably on her. Oh joy.

*counseling was recommended in the child custody evaluation, which both agreed to during mediation, so it's not a new idea based on behavior towards me.