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Thanks for Giving - Thanksgiving!!

BarkAtTheMoon's picture

OK, so this wonderful holiday has been weighing heavily on my mind since about July. I have an SD19 who is 45 minutes away at college and an SD13 FT at home. BM died almost 2 years ago. Thanksgiving for the past two years has been a pain in the ass, a real smack in my face. I don't know what to do this year, and the time is close. I need all of the input I can get from you guys.

When BM was alive, DH and I got the Skids on Wednesday night for Thanksgiving and then they would go to BMs around noon on the actual Thanksgiving holiday to celebrate with BM. They lived with BM FT when she was alive. In 2012, I rushed home from a half day at work and got the pre-cooked bird into the oven around 1pm, pulled out all of the stops and served a Thanksgiving meal to DH and the Skids around 6pm. Same thing I did the two years prior. Including the rushing home from work. In 2012, OSD was 17 and had her first job. Someone didn't show up for their shift and she received a text from her boss during our Dinner on Wednesday night. "Daddy, I HAVE to go to work. Johnny didn't show up for his shift." I remember being so hurt at OSD not being respectful enough to say that she was celebrating the holiday with her BF at his house. I was hurt that I slaved for 5 hours and in a matter of 10 minutes of us being seated at the table, she received the text and HAD to go. To work for 3 hours. At her minimum wage job. Disney DH Dad said OK. I am still hurt to this day, but SD19 is a bigger more entitled bitch than ever so I have that to make me feel better, right? It was nice to NOT have her in the house for a few hours, but it was the holiday for us. I was torn..... :?

Fast forward to Thanksgiving 2013. We were in our new bigger home with 5 dogs. Nice big yard and we have the Skids FT. Biggrin I didn't have to rush home on Wednesday to cook Dinner. I could enjoy my evening and get up early on the holiday to cook, watch the parade, serve Dinner mid-afternoon, watch football...all of the good things that come with the holiday. Except it was the Skids first Thanksgiving without their BM. It had been about 10 months since she passed, Skids had bdays without her over the summer....but I knew the holidays may prove to be tough for OSD, who is probably ODD or BPD, but what do I know? Anyway, I get up at the crack of the crack on Thursday for Thanksgiving 2013 and start orchestrating my magic in the kitchen. My neck and back and fibromyalgia are killing me after about the first hour, but I was happy because it was a holiday.

About 45 minutes before Dinner was to be served, OSD 18 then, comes downstairs in a sports bra and bike shorts and joins DH in the LR. It was 40 degrees outside and chilly in the house. I catch a glimpse of her outfit and asked if she was cold. I couldn't see that she had running shoes on, and she said she was going to get on the treadmill. -Whut?- OSD goes down to the basement and I hear the slap-slap-slap of her feet on the treadmill right below me from the kitchen. Kind of annoying. Then I got mad. Respect the damn holiday Skid! I told DH that she was not going to go sweat for 30 minutes on the treadmill and then sit at my linen-covered table for Dinner. This was the first time we ever had the Skids ON the actual Thanksgiving holiday, although the reason for it was bittersweet. I wanted it to be special. I was making it special. I was preparing yummy food that I made for DH years before in November, when we had first started dating. On the actual holiday.

DH went downstairs to tell OSD that she needed to shower before eating and to leave herself enough time. Then the bombs started exploding. You would have thought a mewling cat was being drowned in our basement. The whining, then the intolerance and back talk to DH, then finally the sobbing and sobbing and sobbing from an 18yo girl. I gave her the benefit of the doubt because of BM's passing. My first husband died before our second wedding anniversary and it HURTS when that pain is new. It hurts when those special occasions start creeping up on the calendar. It just plain hurts. Anyone who has lost someone special KNOWS. I knew and I continued to prepare the meal while hearing OSD sobbing her heart out in the basement below me. DH left her down there for a few minutes then returned to her again. "OSD get up off of the floor. Get up." He was calm with OSD but she has always been a drama queen and DH didn't want this drama on the holiday. We were all dealing with the loss of BM, the four of us, and DH certainly didn't want YSD to be upset. (To this day she hasn't cried over the death of her BM....) Next thing I know, OSD is screaming at DH "My mother is DEAD! My mother is DEAD!!!!!" DH calmly replied in his soothing tone, "Yes, OSD, I know. But if she were here she'd say you were being a BUTT. Now go take a shower so you're ready for Dinner on time." Sobbing and stomping from OSD up from the basement, through the kitchen, up the stairs to the bedroom and bathroom where she took a shower.

Made for one damn awkward Thanksgiving Dinner. Our first one on a Thanksgiving Thursday, first one in our new home. And my back was killing me, but I delivered. I delivered a holiday dinner so grand and special. Special, yes, I thought it was special.

This past summer when OSD/SD19 was home from college she said in passing that she hadn't had many outbursts in years. HUH? I looked at her and said one word. "Thanksgiving." I thought of a dozen other, too. SD19 looked at me and seemed surprised. Her reply?

"I didn't think it was that special." That was her way of excusing WHY she got on the treadmill right before dinner. Tantrum over not wanting to take a shower? I still say it's because she had lost her BM. But she REALLY didn't think it was THAT special, which is why she proceeded to get on the treadmill and treat it like any other day. SD19 doesn't like when any of the family ASKS her to do anything. Whether it's take her laundry from the dryer so the next person can move theirs over, or clean up in the kitchen after she makes a mess, or take a shower before Thanksgiving Dinner. DH, myself and SD13 all walk on eggshells around her because to keep quiet keeps HER quiet and we can have silence and maybe find some peace in our home. Otherwise it's mass-destruction as witnessed last Thanksgiving. She fucking ruined the family's holiday!

I disengaged this past July. I stopped cooking, cleaning, mentoring, advising, reminding, didn't buy and birthday gifts for the SDs who both have summer birthdays. I have terrible neck and back pain from accidents which has led to fibromyalgia. This past year has been tough as far as the pain goes, mental and physical.

So, STalkers, WHAT am I going to do THIS year?????? God help me. Please. somebody help me. I don't want to do anything for these Skids but I don't want to ruin the holiday. Sad

~ Moon

twopines's picture

Yes, either of these two options is great. Or order a Thanksgiving dinner from the grocery store and have DH pick it up.

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

If you can't find a restaurant open, order the whole meal pre-made. All you really do is heat it up. I order from Mimi's every year now. $100 for the whole meal. Put the bird and now the required amount of time, and cycle all the sides through the microwave! I pick up my box the day before...order it about a week or two prior.

The kids don't car if it's formal...don't make it formal! I treat dinner like any other meal, unless MIL insists we go over there. Last year MIL went to her brother's, so I heated up the food, and kept it very informal. I just wanted to watch football!

oneoffour's picture

Do nothing. My DH has his birthday on Thanksgiving this year. He and I will be having a nice Dinner-for-two and our combined 4 kids living here in the USA will be invited for a light supper in the evening.

Order in. Or do something for you and DH for a special meal and tell the girls they are welcome to join you but you need xx days notice. If you do not hear from them there will not be a place for them. If OSD turns up and behaves like a brat just tell her quietly but firmly she is not to upset your meal and she is welcome to stay and behave or leave and come back when she gets over herself.

You need to get a tough skin. She does this because this is how she gets her own way. So either don't invite her or call her on it and tell her to leave. Just make DH clear on your action plan beforehand. And stop being the grand provider. No medals are being given out or thanks.

One thing you can be grateful for is a DH with some backbone and doesn't take crap from his daughter.

Ah stuff it. Let DH and YSD make dinner while YOU lay on the couch and watch the parade.

Rags's picture

Cater the meal. That makes it far more enjoyable for you and if the Skids are a no show then you don't have countless hours invested.

We started catering all but a couple of signature family dishes more than 15 years ago. It makes TG so much nicer. If we have guests they are welcome to bring their family signature dishes. The main stuff we cater. (Bird, breads, mashed potato, etc....)

just.his.wife's picture

Order Pizza.

Second Thanksgiving we were together we had skids. Their mother was blowing up their phones about how HER family postponed TG because SKIDS weren't there but gramma was gonna make them x,y,z (insert every formal dinner option known to man for ANY holiday). Essentially BM was pulling the "no matter WHAT she makes it isnt GOOD enough, we can do better! And oh my poor whole family has to wait for their TG because your dad is MEAN and actually took his holiday instead of giving into my whining, bitching and moaning!"

At noon I called Papa Johns. At two there were ALOT of pizzas delivered, hot wings, bottles of soda, bread sticks, cinnomen deserts etc. All six kids DH and I gorged ourselves silly.

And the facebook postings started... pics of everyone elses fancy dinners... and here come my skids and kids with "Best Thanksgiving EVER!!" With pictures of the living room covered in pizza boxes, them in PJs/ casual clothes and the football game on TV.

And how do I know, without a DOUBT BM was in competition with me. When the kids went back to her the next day.... all of a sudden her family ordered Pizza for their meal. And she was pissed when the skids didn't eat... they were burned out on pizza from eating a TON of it the day before.

Delilah's picture

I think ordering in is a great idea. I would have a chat with dh and tell him you are a bit worried about your pain, and previous thanksgiving experiences so you suggest that you order in and that way you can spend more time with him that day. I would also say, that while you understand the girls missing their mother and very likely particularly on special holidays, you do not want to set a tradition of tantrums and tears for the rest of the family's holidays. Its not fair to any of you and while you want to make it special, sds need to be informed of expectations this year -dinner at x time (or they can inform you AND dh that if they have plans prior to thanksgiving -i.e. sd19- then she can eat hers warmed up later), they are not to carry on as its not only their thanksgiving.Its one thing to veryunderstandably be understanding and sensitive to the girls losing and missing their mother, its quite another thing to consistently ruin it, have the idea its acceptable to do this every year and it then becomes a habit, attention seeking thing. DH needs to realise that the girls should be strongly encouraged to be polite, respectful during social occasions because whiles ok to be sad, its another to act like a brat and sd IS an adult now. Oh and I would add, you have the impression from sd19 especially that she doesnt see thanksgiving as a special holiday, but to you and in your home it IS,so hence the need to outline expectations. I would say its really important for you ALL to develop your own blended family traditions-even if you want to vom saying this, its about getting dh on board and for him to not get on the defensive. Employ your womanly wiles Wink

BarkAtTheMoon's picture

Thank you all so much for your ideas. I really wish I could make a traditional dinner, esp for DH and myself, but I have to face the facts. #1) My back has been killing me for months as I am getting off of pain meds due to side effects. #2) If SD19 or even SD13 were to pull any shenanigans I would be FURIOUS! So, do we eat casual at home or go out?

We went to Mimi's Cafe once a few years ago. SD13 was prob 9 at the time and fell asleep in the booth, started bitching about dessert. I even liked the Skids back then, but NOW....every thing they do annoys me. If we were to meet up with my parents at Mimi's all I would hear is my parents and Gma asking them about school and what great things have you done?.... It makes me want to vomit. "Hi! I'm SD19, and oh mih gawd, I'm in a SORORITY! I am SOOOO great!" "Hi! I'm SD13 and I am currently having an identity crisis. I like to giggle and act strange at the table with NO manners whatsoeverrrrr!" If we're at home, SD19 will try to hog one entire couch to herself for the parade and football, since she is eternally attached to and humping DH's leg like a lost puppy dog. Then I would just end up in my room alone on Thanksgiving watching football by myself. Shit. Times are changing, aren't they?

Maybe we'll get lucky and if I plan a low-key Thanksgiving, then SD19 will go to her boyfriend's house and celebrate there! That would be the best Thanksgiving ever! Because you know, Thanksgiving "isn't that special!" LOL

~ Moon

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

LOL...Well, you don't actually have to eat AT Mimi's...they do make a darn good Thanksgiving dinner, though! And it looks like their price went down $10 this year!

http://www.mimiscafe.com/holidayfeast.aspx

Like I said...we order and I pick up my box of goodies the day before. All the hard prep is already done. Just pop the bird in the oven per the instructions, and while you are making DH cut the bird, cycle the sides through the microwave! That's how I do it!

I'm praying that SheSloth will go to BM's for Thanksgiving! Here lately, she has been posting all over Instagram how she misses her mom, her little brother, and her step dad. I'm just waiting for her to start pushing to move back in over there! I say let her go! But DH will fight it tooth and nail, thinking that she is so much better off here with us. He doesn't realize that she is still up to her crap, just doing better to hide it!

Rags's picture

Boston Market does a nice TG dinner. Place the order a week or two ahead and pick it up at the prescribed time on TG day.

Any of the national cafeteria chains will cater a meal for pickup too. They size the bird and dishes based on the number of guests you will have.

Or .... try any of your local favorites. Give them a call to see who does TG meals for pickup.

That way you can do the traditional meal with none of the hassles of making it.

We have ordered a fried turkey for the past few TG dinners we have hosted.

Most of all ... relax. No need for it to be a stressful deal.

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

I plan on trying to find some excuse for the gym..."Oh, I'm going to go get my workout in before we eat so I don't feel like a fat pig!" LOL

The part the gets me the most about Thanksgiving is the day before and day after...school holidays! I HATE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS! If DH doesn't plan on SheSloth being off doing something, then I have to put up with her laying around the house all day.

BarkAtTheMoon's picture

Can't, just don't come over and get on the treadmill in MY basement on TG Day lol!

The past few years I have gone to my deli and have bought a pre-cooked bird, have microwaved a few sides, made others from scratch due to SD13's peanut allergy.....It still takes an enormous amount of my time on my feet. I don't trust DH to cook, lol! I have looked at Mimi's for their meals, it's like what I've been doing the past few years. I will call them tomorrow about peanut allergens in their food to make sure it's safe. I am also looking for a place where DH can pick up a hot cooked feast, like carry out, like Rags suggested. Not many around here, although there is the local barbecue place......LOL just a thought. It would be so yummy.

Carry out on frikkin' TG. Ugh. This too shall pass and they will move out, this too shall pass and they will move out.....Only 4-5 more years for OSD to go. I can do that, I've made it this far! Biggrin

~ Moon