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unluckytwin's picture

Hi. I've been browsing these forums for a couple of weeks and decided to join. This thread is mostly to say hello, though I'm also preparing for a talk with my SO next week and any advice for how to help the talk go smoothly would be appreciated.

I'm a 27-year-old graduate student working on my PhD in sociology. My SO is 36 years old (employed, not that it matters). We have been together for 15 months. He has an 8-year-old daughter. She and I have spent a great deal of time together, and we like each other, but she does not know her father and I are together (at least, we have never told her and we do not do PDA around her). She spends one week with her father, then one week with her mother, and then SO has her the Wednesday night of her mother's week and her mother has her the Thursday night of her father's week. So, he and I spend each night together that he doesn't have her, then the next week I don't really see him at all, unless we go to get ice cream or something like that (some weeks it happens, some weeks I don't see them at all).

I do not identify as a step-parent yet, but I've been going through some emotions that it seems like step-parents feel, and I'd like to make the transition into step-parenting as smooth as possible. To my mind, this involves A. finding a community like this one for support, B. talking honestly with my SO about things that I'm feeling, and C. possibly some individual counseling for me, or counseling with him.

The matter of a smooth transition is a bit complicated by several factors.

1. SO is still married to his daughter's mother. They have been living apart for a long time now, obviously, and the divorce proceedings will start very soon. They do not have a cordial relationship in the least (he is pretty angry with her, and she seems to do her best to be obtuse), and even though she has given him no real reason to think this, he is worried that she will screw him in the divorce. As such, he doesn't want to give her anything that she can use against him. She knows we are dating (she knew from day one) and so far she has not made it sound like a problem (she even thanked me last time I saw her for being so good to her daughter, despite our differences), but he is nervous that if she doesn't get her way in the divorce, she will suddenly have a problem with us dating and use it against him. To protect himself, he's trying to be as presentable as possible to a judge. This means that I never spend the night at his place when he has his daughter, and he never blows his daughter off to spend time with me. He also doesn't want to tell his daughter that we are dating until the divorce is finalized in case she has some kind of problem with it (she likes me, but maybe some kids don't like their parents dating anyone, no matter who it is).

2. I have always identified as childfree by choice. I have never wanted children, and while I don't hate children, I'm not really a natural at interacting with them. I have ideas how parenting should be done, but I don't really want to have input because I avoided having children precisely so I wouldn't have to make big decisions. I think parenting would take far too much work given my extremely low interest level, and it feels to me like the stakes are very high, and the fear of messing it up really freaks me out.

So here I am, simultaneously fearful of becoming a step-parent, but wishing SO would just tell his daughter we are together so that we can move forward in our relationship. He is without a doubt my forever partner, and after 15 months together, I would very much like to move in with him one day soon (we both have 6 months left on our current leases and I really hoped we would be able to get a new place together at the end of October). I feel a bit resentful that my relationship is so constrained by his ex and their daughter. This will lessen when the divorce is done, but it will take a few months to finalize the divorce and then some unknown amount of time to give his daughter time to adjust to our relationship before moving in together. I'm running out of patience, and I feel a little angry at SO for not being willing to take the risk of telling his daughter for me. It's a long story, but suffice it to say I sacrificed a lot to be with him, and I wish that he would take a chance for me. I feel like the chances are very low of his wife having a problem with telling the kid we are dating and using it against him--or the judge seeing his dating someone as a serious problem.

SO has his daughter this week, so next week when we have time alone together, I would like to talk to him about my feelings. I'd like to do so in a way that doesn't make me sound jealous that his child comes first, or like I do not care about her feelings. I would also like to do so in a way that doesn't sound like I am demanding he take this chance for me, because the last thing I want to do is control the way in which his divorce develops. Any advice on things I can say to communicate my feelings to him without sounding overly emotional, angry, or controlling would be appreciated. This will be the first of several talks, because the truth is, my emotions are running deep these days, and I often feel a little crazy (e.g., sometimes I feel like I want a baby with him, even though I don't *really* want that in the rational part of my brain) and like some of my feelings would not be acceptable if said aloud (in general, they run contrary to the popular belief that children are the center of the world). But I'd like to just start the conversation and see if we can make some progress, and maybe that will help me sort out my crazy.

Sorry for the long post. I've been keeping so much to myself and everything feels so complicated that it's hard to keep it short for an introduction. I'm sure I'll have many posts to come, and I'll be doing lots of reading in hopes of soaking up some advice from other people who have felt the same things I'm feeling now.

IslandGal's picture

You make a shit load of sense Dtzy!! I like your definition regarding Priorities vs Responsibiites. I've got a shady one and think you'd be the best person to answer.. please let me know what yu think?

We had skids over on the weekend. Usually SD has tennis on Sat mornings starting at about 10am, finishing by 11am. We had planned a get together with friends and invited them to come over at 1pm. When DH took SD to her match, there was a mixup and her game had been changed to start at 12pm. This meant, finishing by 1pm for them to be home by 1.30. When DH called to let me know, I asked him what was going to happen? Should we just cancel the get together?. He said yes.. he didn't want to disappoint SD 'cos she was really looking forward to playing.

So we canceled. This of course, disappointed our friends and I, was NOT happy at all! Not happy that he chose to disappoint me and our mates in favour of his kid. When he got home we had a huge fight. I told him I was never going to be involved in planning any social activities with him when the skids were with us. He got upset and said I was being difficult.

I believe he made the wrong decision in this case. He should have just cancelled tennis (it wasn't a major tournament) and came home. By giving in to SD just showed her that her needs came first and were more important than us and having his friends over. (this would've been the first time our mates came over). I get the responsibility and ensuring her needs were met - but this was very clearly a "want" and not a "need".

I'd appreciate your thoughts..

jumanji's picture

Why not simply have the friends come over a half hour or hour later? Or your husband and the kiddo come late. Cancelling was silly, IMO.

Silvercat's picture

HI IslandGal

I liked Dtzy's post too. I'm not her, but here's my two cents.

I agree that your DH made the wrong decision BUT you gave him that option. Why couldn't you just go ahead with the get together and let your friends know that DH and SD would be 30 mins late due to mix up with the times, and why not just tell him that when he rang to let you know? Why even bring up the idea of cancelling?

IslandGal's picture

Thank you for commenting Silvercat. I reacted badly - I know that.. it just took me by surprise. I couldn't go ahead with the get together for several reasons.

1) They are mates to me, but these are actually HIS relatives. I'm only just getting to know them. They've invited us to MANY of their get-togethers during the time DH and I have been together, and this was the very first invite we had sent them.

2) DH is the chef in our place. I help prepare salads, entrees etc. We hadn't even gotten the food yet. Was I supposed to run up to the shop (he had the car), do the shopping, prepare the food and hang with his relo's until he turned up?

The main reason for the get-together was so his kids could hang out with their cousins at our place for the first time ever. It would have been uncomfortablle for us all if their cousins came over and only one skid was there - remember, we're all just getting to know one another.

Lastly. It is NOT my role to entertain DH's relo's and their kids if he's not there. I would not expect him to do the same for me. I know for a fact, that if our roles were reversed, I would've canceled tennis and returned home to help and support my partner get ready to socialise with my relatives.

What's gotten me upset about this, was that DH actually got upset with me!

unluckytwin's picture

Hi folks. Thanks to those who replied to me, and IslandGal, sorry to hear about your let-down too!

Just wanted to leave a quick note that I have read these replies and appreciate the effort people put into writing back. I had a family emergency very soon after posting and it has totally consumed me the last couple of weeks. But I'm back and ready to get reading on this site!

Incidentally, the pressure of the emergency sort of forced SO and I into talking about things we had been planning to talk about, but in fits and starts instead of one longer conversation. Things have gotten better and I'm more optimistic now, but I'm definitely counting the days until this divorce is DONE!