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Supporting kids away at college

Julies's picture

How do you handle a situation where a Skid is away at college and wanting/needing financial support that her parent cannot afford?

Do I help support the skid?
Does he tell skid he doesn't have the money?
Do I stay out of it? (I tried to offer some support for one thing but that went badly as I think the BM resented it)

Julies's picture

skid has worked at times but still it's tough to finance living expenses and tuition without help these days. She's getting help from both parents but the reality it it's going to be difficult for my husband to continue this help.

Julies's picture

Good advice. The only reason I got involved was because the skid said to me I'd like to come back for a visit but my dad said he couldn't help me out with the plane fair. This weighed on my mind so I then offered to my husband that I could chip in for plane fair. The skid then told him that thanks but no thanks it's not necessary, it's not her job. After the bm bought the plane fare, we decided to get skid a more expensive birthday present thinking that was something she couldn't refuse. They then stuck him with half the airfare bill even though he has no money in the bank, so they got him coming and going!

LRP75's picture

Depends, do you have a good relationship with the kid? Does he treat you with respect? Most importantly, will your assistance be appreciated?

If the answer to those questions is, "Yes." Then the answer to your question is, "Yes." If that is what YOU want to do and can afford it.

However, if you've been a despised and treated like crap for being a SM - then the answer would be no.

Poodle's picture

I agree that if finances r wholly separate it is nothing to u and will get poisonous if u get involved. But it's different if u r more dependent on each other. Try to ensure, if your finances r joined in any way via your budget or property you own together, that you are kept fully informed on and consent to the spends and, if you are happy for support to be given from joint funds, that it is properly attributed to a joint gift from both of you. If it is half your money and you're ok with its being given occasionally, I personally don't allow it to b called a loan cos everyone secretly knows it won't b paid back so why lie. I allow very modest occasional emergency amounts, funds permitting, because I wd want the same for my BSs. We're talking tiny amounts here though. My brother had a very gd system when his son was at college and asked for a sub. He told the son to draw up his budget for him and the SM to advise my nephew on (they r friendly w the BM too). They helped him analyse + perfect the budget then offered him a small short-term top-up til his next work opportunity. This worked well.

Julies's picture

It's very complex because finances were separate but now are currently joined in the sense that my husband is unemployed. He has made a commitment to help support his kid in certain ways, so he can't always say no. The reality is that it's coming out of a loan to me or a loan to the bank at this point. He got himself further and further in debt. I really don't know where to turn to sort this out.

caregiver1127's picture

I have one word - RETIREMENT -

If you do not have enough then let the skid or kid figure out what to do - too many parents are going to be working until they are 100 if they don't let their kids become adults and make their own way in the world!! If they don't have enough to fly to see their father then they need to work to get the money to do it!!

sandye21's picture

I agree with Foxie, stay out of it. Shortly after DH and I got married, SD went off to college. DH was not making very much money then. I supported him financially so he could afford to send her to a 4 year college. SD would not even consider the cheaper route of 2 years community college, then continuing on at a more expensive college. She demanded it like she was entitled to the 4 year college. My help was never acknowledged by SD or DH. I managed to do pretty well in my profession without a degree. After she received her degree, she told me she looks down on people who do not have a degree and called them white trash.

Let DH, BM and SD figure it out.

Julies's picture

What a cautionary tale! Thanks for sharing that. It really is a catch 22. If you had that to do again Sandy what would you do? Tell your husband you could not support him? I mean it's a difficult thing to do. Does DH stand for divorced husband in that you are no longer together??

sandye21's picture

Dh stands for 'Dear Husband'. We are still together but SD is banned from our home, I have disengaged, and we speak very little about SD although he is welcome to call or visit her whenever he wants.

If I had it all to do over again, I would not have married him. At least I would have put my foot down about SD a lot sooner than I did. After a few years of supporting him, I told him he was going to ahve to contribute 50% to the expenses or leave. It was still less expensive than going out on his own so he stayed. The minus side of this is that in the back of my mind I wonder if he stayed with me because he loved me or for his own comfort. He does though treat me as if he loves me and is much more respectful since I disengaged from SD.

Orange County Ca's picture

Stay out of it. Many kids are going to college and getting degrees in Ancient Latin Literature or whatever using student loans and parents money. They should have started a career right out of high school because they'll never find a job using the degree.

Julies's picture

I'd like to stay out of it and was staying out of it until my husband's finances went down-hill, now I'm involved whether I like it or not. Any support I give to my husband, does in effect allow him to give whatever little money he can to his daughter, which of course he wants to do. Who wouldn't want to support their little girl at college?

sandye21's picture

You mentioned BM resented it - for this reason I would stay out of it. If you decide to help him, make sure SD somehow knows you are conributing. But only contribute a small portion. SD can get scholarships, loans, etc. Do you have a good relationship with her?

Julies's picture

The relationship is okay between me and the SD and the situation is that the BM very much calls the shots behind the scenes I'm beginning to realize. What she says gets parrotted back by the skids and she's very good at manipulating the situation. For example the phrase coming back as follows in reaction to my offering to help with one small thing: "Tell her thanks but that's not necessary, it's not her job" And then shortly after extracting the money from the dad who didn't have it in the first place. So how was the money not necessary?

No surprises there, I'm sure for many of you who have been at this longer than I have!

Julies's picture

Sadly, we are part of the the 1/3 of the households supported by women and that is growing. I did not sign up for this but it's the reality right now. Like you, I must pay the bills and make sure we don't go hungry. When my "DH" as you guys like to call him on here does get a bit of money from his part time job he had recently, rather than it going to his debt collectors, his credit card loan, or wherever, it has been extracted from him by his child and the BM to pay her back for things for the child who is at college.

Julies's picture

Thanks, so you are saying you would never ask your husband to support your biological daughter's schooling? Just want to make sure I got that right. I'm saving for my own child's schooling and was not planning to ask my husband to help with that, however he's got himself into a mess without having the resources to send his own kids to college.

Julies's picture

I'm glad you have protected yourself and I am worried about doing the same. If I keep having to support my husband then my retirement and my daugher's future schooling would be at risk. However how can you not pay the bills when your husband is out of work? It's a stressful situation but I hope he will get a job and he is trying.

Julies's picture

I also feel the same way, that I will not let someone else's debts and poor financial planning drive me to rack and ruin. It's complicated to keep things separate but in your case you have managed to do it. If your husband lost his jobs, you would have to kick him out to stick by your principles but how long would you wait before doing so?

Julies's picture

Thanks, my husband is selling things too, but the reality is I have to pay the bills. I guess the question relevant to skids is... should I be lending money to him so he can make his obligations re supporting the kid at college? If the answer is no, then he has to let his child down, which he is loath to do. He would rather go into debt, which he has to pay her out of his line of credit. If I have to be the enforcer of this harsh reality, then I look like the ungenerous step mom. It's a no-win situation but my husband realizes he has to dig himself out of this hole somehow.

kelaine's picture

Agree. You need to be pro-active with protecting your assets. Which would you rather be: completely broke and paying off your DH's debts or be an "ungenerous stepmom" but still have your retirement?

Your SD does have options: student loans, financial aid, her mother and extended family, getting a job, etc. She has the rest of her life to pay back loans. You, however, could lose your retirement and how much time do you have to re-coup it? Probably not much.

You said he made a committment to support his kid in certain ways? Is this a court order or just a verbal agreement? If it's a court order, could his financial situation be reconsidered and have the court order modified? Or maybe it's a matter of talking to BM and telling her there's a change in the finances and he cannot afford what he promised?

trystme's picture

The bottom line is that you guys can't afford it. If you can't afford it then you cannot do it, period. Going into more and more debt is only going to make matter so much worse.

Texas_Pete's picture

I was in a situation this weekend where new tires were needed.. She has 2 skids in college and both are on some form of scholarship(s).. They make the grades,, they work when not in school,, their bio dad pays for most of the school but that doesnt cover gas,, food,, insurance,, cell phones etc.. How am I going to be able to tell their mother NO,, they need to fix their own car,, or work a few extra hours to come up with medical co-pay and prescriptions..

I agree that some stuff is just over the top,, and if I wont "give" it to my kids then I wont give it to hers,,, but come on.. Treating a spouses children badly is a quick way to another x-wife,,, she knows I didnt sign up to take the responsibility of their bio-dad financially but we both have kids,, sometimes they need help.. Yea I want to retire in 5 years and move away,, but right is right

Julies's picture

I have talked to an attorney and in Canada anyway a wife or husband is not responsible for debts that their spouse has incurred in their own name. The exception to this would be a spouse who incurs a bunch of debts that they argue were payments towards household things rather than their own things. I have also been advised to get a marital agreement in order to protect my assets should the marriage fail and should my husband try to obtain spousal support etc.

Good advice re the skids have the rest of their lives to pay off debt and we do not. BTW, the skid does have student loans, a bit of support from BM, but still expects her dad to match the BMs contributions as per the initial verbal agreement then made and he hates to let her down. Unless I get very tough I think things will continue on that way in terms of him continuing these payments that he can ill afford and my keeping this ship afloat.

Toooldfor this's picture

This can into a very sticky situation though! I had started saving for my BS college right after his birth and was able to support him through college. He was an excellent student and had scholastic scholarships so I didn't mind paying for everything so that he could focus on school. A few years later my SS barely graduated highschool and bio-parents wanted him to go to community college, neither of them had planned for this and long story short, I used some of my bio son's college saving's account to pay for SS. SS attended class for two weeks, dropped out without telling us so no tuition could be refunded. I very much resented that money I had saved for my own son was basically wasted. I would not advise paying for skids college unless you are willing to just hand over the money and walk away with no expectations!!