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Please give me advice before I go kick her a** into next week? Pretty please?

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

I need advice here from others who hopefully may be feeling the things I do, but please do not be cruel to me right now.

It is the BM (ex-wife) AGAIN. Now after badmouthing DH to SD6, trying to PAS out SD6, she turns around and plays all cute and nicey to MY husband?

Here it is...this is not the 1st time either that the boundaries that DH put in place have been crossed.

DH,

Also, at school on Tuesday the 23rd they are having a Thanksgiving Feast and ALL the "parents" are invited.

BM

Now I know what you are going to say maybe. So what if my DH goes with BM to a Thankgiving "feast" as a "couple"... "for the sake of poor SD6." Give me a break.

I'm sorry, but it is NOT healthy to see your two parents fighting in front of you one minute, then seeing them as a "couple" together at a school event. (No, I have never been invited to anything in the 2 years of being with DH and SD6.) I take that back, when DH and I first married, he wanted me to go to an open house at school. I was given the " death glare" the entire time. It was strange as the two of them were seperate the whole time, walking around, not even saying one word to each other. I felt REALLY odd and out of place so that was that...

So, my heated question is, Is she just trying to piss me off again or is she once again trying to guilt DH into a showing for " poor SD6" so that BM can look like MOTY? Can she NOT handle looking divorced in public with child or something? What do you think? I'm going to just sit back and "see" how DH reacts to the invite before expressing my rage at this bitch who has nothing better to do than try to ruin DH's marriage, using the kid to do it, of course...

Yes, I am ranting~ 2nd damn year dealing with the so-called "holiday" crap.

Again, should I show no reaction to either of them , (DH-BM) and see what transpires out of the invite? Should I encourage DH to go with BM " for the kid's sake?" I hope you guys understand me. I am NOT trying to replace the kid's mom at all but I do deserve respect and boundaries with my new marriage and MY husband. Nor am I trying to seperate dad and child- ever.

What nerve this bitch has. What could I do "nicely" to put her in her place....again? * sigh *

How many times does this nut have to hear from my husband to " f-ing move on with your life and leave us alone!!!" ???

Thanks as usual, (trying as a newbie to remember names here.)

skylarksms's picture

Go with your DH. It is open to all parents, correct? You are the step-parent!

Don't let her upset you (easier said than done, I know). The best revenge is to be happy. You can make sure that your DH doesn't have to spend TOO much time with BM and SD can see that you two are a "united front."

It would also piss off BM to no end!!

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

IT clearly states and is directed ONLY to him, " ALL parents." NOT " just a stepmother..."

I hear you, but I don't want anymore strife in my life. I ONLY want to be married to my husband without all of her shit, you know?

(I know it would piss her off but do not want to upset SD6)

RaeRae's picture

I don't know your skids school policy, but my skids school policy is that a step parent is right up there with the parents for everything from invitations, to lunches, to meetings, to emergency call list... I am always at school for my kids and skids. Have a talk with the skids school. Don't go by what BM tells DH.

My DH took his kids sdad off of the emergency call list (due to abuse allegations currently being investigated), however, the school would not tell him 'no' if he wanted to attend a function with his wife and her kids.

stormabruin's picture

BM is the one who directed it ONLY to him. That doesn't mean that the school intended for it to be ONLY to him.

With as many divorced families as there are today, I think schools expect steps to be included in such activities. I can't imagine them sending out information for an activity & expect divorced parents to attend together without their spouses/SO's.

skylarksms's picture

I guess my H would want me with for "moral support." But if you think it would be in the best interest of the child for you NOT to go, then don't.

But it's going to be a LONG time that you have to deal with her crap. You might want to try a counselor. I know that helped me out tremendously. If it is not in your budget, you can check if you can do it through your work (most places have EAP that offers a few sessions for free) or through a church.

The best scenerio is not to let BM get under your skin. Because she will TRY at every chance. BTDT I know it's not easy but for your OWN sanity, you need to make as much of an attempt as you can.

stronggirl's picture

I would go...I always went to SS school functions with DH.....you are a part of the family....it is a family function...it is not like Moms and Muffins or Dads and Donuts....it is a family dinner....go

tofurkey's picture

Personally I don't buy into the whole "let's do stuff as mother and father for the sake of the child" crap. It's an illusion...it's a lie...and it's just plain disrespectful to the other people who are in a relationship with mom or dad. BM used to pull these guilt trips on DH all the time. He actually did buy into it our first x-mas together and decided to play happy family and when I found the tape from that x-mas much later on, it almost split us up due to the contents and fact he lied lied and lied. (looonggg story) But, anyhow, the kids knows their mother and father aren't together. In my case, BM and DH were split up before she even knew she was pregnant. There's no point in putting on a show. It's rediculous.

ThatGirl's picture

I was thinking the same thing. She wrote ALL "parents" are invited. I take that to mean you, too. Imagine the look on her face when you DH replies, "Sounds great! Butterfly and I are looking forward to it! Will we see you there?" }:)

RaeRae's picture

I wish our BM would see things this way. She doesn't want me involved at all, however, we are the custodial parents as DH has primary custody. If more parents would set aside their pride, anger, or whatever they are feeling inside for the sake of the kids, the kids lives would be so much better.

skylarksms's picture

If more parents would set aside their pride, anger, or whatever they are feeling inside for the sake of the kids, the kids lives would be so much better.

EXACTLY. Too bad courts couldn't enforce THIS!!!!

stormabruin's picture

For your DH to go without you makes the false illusion of the 3 of them being a family, also giving the false illiusion that DH & BM are a couple.

You should go with your DH. Go as his wife. It's good for your SD to see the 3 adults in the true light. It's good for her to see you & your DH participate in things together. I believe it sends kids the wrong message when a step gets pushed out. In my opinion, it sends the message that daddy is married to & lives with Butterflykisses but still plays family with mommy. If daddy is married to & lives with Butterflykisses, he only plays family with her. In my opinion, you have every right to be there, & you should be. Not to spite BM, but to be there in support of your husband & your stepdaughter.

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

Thank you for your kind advice. I'm afraid of her going nuts though. I was always raised that you never show if you have not been invited.

FYI- I was not with DH before their divorce. I do not understand why she excludes me so. I never did anything towards her and have been sweet to their child. What a thankless title.

stormabruin's picture

Our BM treats me the same way. I've never done or said anything to cross her, but in her world, I'm Satan. I've discovered it's an issue she has that only she can fix.

If she goes nuts in front of everyone else because her daughter's stepmother came to show her support & took time away from her busy life to share a Thanksgiving meal with with her stepdaughter, that will fall on her. If she has the nerve to lose it over something so minute in front of a bunch of strangers, let her lose it. She'll get all the attention & then she'll feel all of the embarrassment of throwing a baby fit for an audience. You should clap after her performance. Wink

In my opinion, it's all the more reason for you to be there. You'll get a front-row seat! }:)

Seriously, though, the invitation was put out by the school. It's their event, not BM's. Don't let her be the reason you don't go.

PoisonApples's picture

Check with the school.

I think you probably ARE invited.

Don't give BM power that she shouldn't have. Who cares if she goes nuts? You can't build your life and make decisions based on how she is going to react. Her reactions are HER problem, not yours. If you play into her control games you just encourage her to continue.

skylarksms's picture

If she goes nuts at the school, then people will realize why HER and your DH are not together anymore!

Being a step parent means you are automatically invited to ALL parent functions you chose to be a part of.

Who knows what crazy crap goes on in BM's head of why she feels she has to treat you like crap? But YOU need to work on YOU. YOU cannot cause BM to act like a kooky nut. She IS a kooky nut!

Please stop walking on eggshells because of this woman. She is NO MORE entitled to be feared than YOU should be!

purpledaisies's picture

Why does the bm HAVE to invite you??? Um this is a school function not a bm function!!

purpledaisies's picture

I would go but that's just me. Dh always wants me to go, he can't stand to be anywhere with bm alone. I think your dh should look at you and say "I want you to go" and then both of you go! that is the only way bm will get it throu her head that he has moved on!

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

I completely agree. It does nothing but give the kid "false hopes" over their parents coming back together. It does say parents, not step's...

Whatever. I would feel kind of cheated on if my husband were to attend a dinner with his former wife as a couple. Kid or not. Sorry.

I need to know what her game is though? I'm lost here.

LizzieA's picture

It just says parents because everyone assumes "parental units" they aren't going to say parents and step parents and boyfriends and girlfriends..
I'd say it is up to you and your DH. Believe me, if BM had a SO, he'd be there with bells on.

WifeVersion2.0's picture

If YOU want to go, then go. If you don't want to go, then let DH go if he wants to.

Personally, if it was during the day then I'd have to see if ticking BM off by showing up was worth a couple of hours of missing work. Sometimes it is. And I wouldn't give her any warning either. I love showing up unexpectedly at kid events and seeing the look on BM's face as she notices that I've accompanied DH and that the ONE SEAT she had conveniently saved for my husband to sit by her will remain empty as we sit elsewhere. Or if there happens to be two empty seats next to her, I'll sit next to her and hubby sits on my other side. It's like watching a teenager's face fall when the boy she is in love with walks into class holding another girl's hand.

It used to make me mad/jealous to know that when I'm not around she's so chatty with my DH but I've learned to realize that she does that because I make HER uncomfortable enough that she doesn't know what to say or how to act when I'm around. Especially when I'm all nice and happy and start talking to her like I would anyone else. Smile

tofurkey's picture

I dont think I could trust myself to sit that close to BM lol...my hand might just accidently have a jerk reaction and punch her in the face....

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

How can I sit near her at all when she cussed me out in a public parking lot for being with MY husband at a pick-up!!!

That damn "pick-up" bitch of a BM was on my tab and I took YOUR kid out to eat that night.

I can't tell you how passive-agressive this woman is. I've never seen such mood changes before.

skylarksms's picture

Our BM would come out of her house - in front of HER neighbors - and SCREAM at me and H when we would pick up the skids.

The skids were traumatized and wouldn't even TALK for the first hour after we got them!

But you are just feeding into her psycho-ness if you allow her being a psycho to affect your normal actions.

Trust me - I've been there.

PoisonApples's picture

same here

It stopped though. Eventually she got it through her head that her tantrums were not going to get the results she wanted and she stopped.

WifeVersion2.0's picture

In my mind - You keep showing up and eventually she will figure out that she can't run you off! Smile

Otherwise - She wins and gets to keep pretending that She, Your DH and their daughter are one big happy family.

When BM asks DH if he's going to be at whatever kid event he intentionally responds "Yes, I will be there" so that she thinks he will be attending alone. This prevents any upfront drama and so far she has decided not to act like an ass at the kids' school.

oneoffour's picture

Because you are the better woman. Repeat and rinse ands neccessary. You ARE the better woman.

The first time we had TG and Christmas DH dropped the boys back at his exes house (we had them Eve and morning) alone because her parents and brother etc were there and he always got along very well with them. I didn't mind because I didn't know them from a stick in the ground and it is BMs house and I was busy doing other stuff. 45 mins later.... words were said. Who is he married to? So they are more important to spend time with than me? If he wants to spend every TG with his ex then I think as this is around the time of my mothers B/Day I will be flying back to NZ for a week thankyou very much.

The next time I went along with him as a gentle reminder who he is married to. 20 mins later after sitting in his freezing car I sounded the horn. Too bad if I sounded like a bitch. He came out and I pretended nothing happened. When we got home I said I was calling his mother to wish her Happy TG. And I told her all about it and SHE read him the riot act. He was REALLY pissed off with me and more so with himself. And it has never happened again.Part of the problem is he is a nice guy and talkative. These people had a 20 yr history with him. But we are now 6 yrs into a relationship with MY family who are a lot funnier and smarter than hers, the Ice Maiden.Unfortunately they live half a world away.

You are involved in the child's life. Why should you not go along to give HER the satisfaction. People like her implode when they cannot boss people like us around anymore. Go for it. Just keep your distance and correct anyone who refers to you as SDs mother and point the person in BMs direction. "I am SDs Stepmother. She is so lucky to have adults who love her so."

WickednNasty's picture

This Biotch is all about imagine. I would go. I know for a fact that our BM doesn't like me attending any functions at the school. My husband and the kids invite me. I go for their benefit, and just to tweak the Biotch.
As far as your Husband going with Bm as a happy family sends A TOTALLY WRONG message to the child. That is just plain insanity.
I would wait to see how your husband handles the situation. Sit and wait for his reaction. When he asks for your opinion give it to him and I'm sure he'll see your point.

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

LOL

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

WickednNasty- Thanks! That was my intention for this evening. I am not going to show any emotion towards the invite and see what happens. Wink

My own child is in college and I have no crazy ex-H either because he passed away years ago...I would have been happy also if my child had such a wonderful SP in their lives. I can relate there.

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

I could go and sport my figure, height, looks, brains, etc. and show ALL who she gossips with what an upgrade my husband has?

Now that is totally wicked. I can stare and glare back even worse, BTW. }:)

PoisonApples's picture

We don't know if that's what happened since the info only came from BM.

I know I've never had a school issue a 'bio-parents only' invitation to anything.

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

Katrinkie- No way, are you serious? ONLY 2 seats per child?

Not that the entire clan should show or anything but give me a break!

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

PoisonApples- Agreed. I hardly think schools send out invites to only BP's? How wrong would that be when the divorce rate is at 50% ? OMG

Anon2009's picture

BM was the one who directed the invite solely to DH. However, I get the feeling that the school would be open to you going with DH. I absolutely think DH should go for his daughter. I also think you should go. SD has two families- one with you and DH and one with BM. BM would probably be upset if anyone tried to exclude him DH from SD's life, so she should at least act like an adult about you being involved in SD's life for the sake of SD. If she chooses to act like an overgrown fool at these events, she's hurting herself and SD.

purpledaisies's picture

Poison that is why I said that it was not up to bm to invite anyone it was the school as this is a school function. Wink

PoisonApples's picture

I agree.

dakotamom's picture

i skimmed through the above posts and agree with the ones that say you're not the first person that is a stepmother - society is full of us!!! Go to the school and be with your husband for his kid (your stepchild).
screw BM and her MOTY act. if she was truly MOTY she will show how united the ENTIRE family is - you included!!
they ARE NOT a couple and it would be a very negative thing to protray this "for the child". it's total bullshit and it will confuse the hell out of them and you'll be the bad guy for ruining Mommy and Daddy's marriage. don't let them add fuel to that fire!!

skylarksms's picture

Exactly, just because in BM's fantasy world, she is still with YOUR DH, doesn't mean that she can make this all about HER.

Don't feed into her fantasy. Or any lies that she MAY be spreading around.

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

@ Anon- I do not agree with my husband having TWO families. That sounds like polygamy or whatever.

MY husband now has ONE family. He, myself, and his daughter. Ex-wife not included.

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

Got it. Wink

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

Oh believe me, I take the damn blame on ALL ends, for everything.

Everyone from his own daughter, to her mom who blames me for all 3 of them not being a "family", to my crazy IL's.

Minus 1 IL now though.

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

Do any of you have husband's who their ex-wives almost expected them to forever stay single yet live apart, yet cater to their every whim and play " Happy Family" together even after a divorce?

WTH is that? I would not expect an X to live that way?

skylarksms's picture

Although my H and BM were never married, he was like a yo-yo in her mind.

She'd get mad (or he would) and he would move out/get kicked out. Then (usually around payday according to my MIL), she would get ahold of him and cry and say he needs to "do the right thing for our children" and come back.

I guess she figured nobody else would want him when they would "break up."

That I did, and the fact that I was the one who explained to H that he could go to court and get visitation set up so it wasn't just at her whim, made me the spawn of Satan to BM.

Too bad. Don't be psycho, BM, and I would have been perfectly willing to be friendly towards you and work towards what's best for the skids, given that their parents are NOT together anymore!

stormabruin's picture

Crazy but true...BM's mom left her to run around with different men. She, at one point, was married to BM's first stepdad & they lived in an apartment complex. Her trucker boyfriend would come into town on weekends & BM's stepdad would take her & BM to the airport like her mom was going out of town, but really her trucker man would be at the airport to pick her up & take her to his place across town for the weekend. They'd play the whole "go pick mommy up at the airport" game at the end of the weekend & she'd have stuffed animals for BM when they went back to get her.

Later into all of this, SD was introduced to the trucker man & stepdad would move out of the apartment into a camper they had set up in the parking lot at the apartment complex for the weekend & trucker man would move in. What I'll never understand is that her husband was fully aware of what was happening & went along with it!!!

This was life as BM knew it. It's what she learned was "normal".

This is the type of lifestyle she was expecting DH to fall into as she got bored with him & began sleeping around. She'd move in & out of other men's homes & when she felt like it she'd come back to DH.

When BM & DH finally split up the last time & BM stayed gone for years, apparently DH told SD (3 years old at the time) that he wasn't going to get married again. She'd seen BM in & out with all these men & DH assured her that he wouldn't do that. I guess that stuck with SD & BM says that's why SD is so pissed of at DH & I now...because we got married. DH & BM were separated for 6 years before she finally would sign the papers, & she only signed them to keep from looking foolish being legally married to a man who was living with someone else. Otherwise, it was her intention to stay married to him forever so her kids wouldn't ahve to suffer through a divorce. She claims her mom's divorce from her first stepdad is what messed with her mentally & was so hard to cope with. Seriously...the confusion couldn't have come from the fact that her mother was active in multiple relationships at a time & telling her she was flying out of state but really riding with her other boyfriend to spend the weekend at his place across town?

on the fence's picture

Who cares what BM WANTS? Ignore that! I make XH aware of school events. We do not sit together, even if BF is not with me. Our son knows we're both there and that's fine. She is divorced and should really get over it. Appearing as a couple for the child? What, is that child the only one whose parents are divorced? It's a fact of life now days. Not some dirty secret to hide! She just wants to be with your DH and she's using this. I would go with DH. Let BM "want" all she likes. She had her chance and it's over.

WindX's picture

I feel like I'm the only one who read that note and didn't see that BM wanted to go to the event as a couple. Seems she informing him that it was taking place. I think it would be up to him to decide whether to attend alone or with his significant other. Where are you getting that that she's trying to exclude you or act as a couple with your husband?

I think you could be completely right that BM would not be happy to have you there and I think that's her problem to deal with, not yours. It's easy to over think motives of others and assign meanings to things and it could be 100% right or wrong.

I definitely don't think you should encourage your husband to do something you completely disagree with. Be honest with your husband about how you see the situation. If he thinks you don't care either way or that you are comfy with him going with you, that could be a bigger headache.

sixteensmom's picture

You are absolutely invited to anything addressed to SDs "parents"

Go with him. You ARE a parent. You're a step Parent. The kid needs to see her new family unit can be civil in a school setting so she doesn't have to choose between the two for the rest of her life.

You'll be doing her a great disservice to go on claiming the school is excluding you because you're not a BIO parent to her. She's 6. She and her teachers need to see you as her dads partner. Go be happy to be there. Have turkey. BM probably won't even go if she knows you're going, so that makes her look petty and foolish.

If you can't or choose not to go with him, he should still go. If bm is also there fine. No big deal. You have 12 more years of school functions where both of SDs parents should attend.

caregiver1127's picture

Butterflykisses - I think you should go and look fabulous and enjoy yourself - you are part of the family and when these things happen it in my book confuses the child more than you not going - why have her think that mommy and daddy are getting back together - there not so go - you have every right as his wife to attend this function. Also you will show the BM that you are not going to be bossed around or going anywhere you are here to stay and she better get used to it. You really need to train these BM's so they understand who is in charge of your DH and I don't mean this is a bad way - but my BM once when I told her DH would call her to stop all the emails wrote me and told me that would only put DH in the doghouse - I wrote back and said what doghouse yours - cause Honey he does not give a shit about your doghouse the only one he needs to worry about is the doghouse in my house. That shut her up real quick - so go if she makes a scene be very mature and calm which will get her more angry but will also make her look nuts - so see win win - you get to go and won't have the sick feeling of them being together and she may let her true self come out - you have a lot of years with this woman - let her know how it is right now!! Good luck!!

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

Thank you all for the gracious and supportive advice.

I wonder what DH will be like this evening when he reads her email? We'll see.

NewBeginning's picture

I'd go.

That woman has no right in the world to ask your husband to not respect you enough to bring you along to your SD's festivities. Who in the hell is she to play boss here?

She is the boss of nothing and never will be.

How in the world are we expected to be our husband's wife when we can't play the role? And that's because the BM is jealous and intimidated..who cares? The stepchild has a function and suddenly we have to make ourselves invisible. Life should NOT be that way.

I do not believe we should let the previous family take precedence over the family we've created now. BM is not a part of your family..but stepchildren ARE. Therefore, this bullshit about keeping up appearances of the former couple is exactly that..bullshit.

Go. That child will love the fact you are taking an interest in her. If BM doesn't like it, tough shit. Wink