To share or not to share my good fortune.
I'm in a bind.
I just got an email from HR confirming that I will be getting a bonus based on my work performance for the 2013 year.
It's a sizeable amount. I've never received a bonus before.
This is good news for me, but here's my delimma.
I want to share the news of my good fortune with DW, but I know EXACTLY what DW will want to do. She will want us to buy a new laptop. I don't want to buy a new laptop. We have 3 iPads, a semi-functioning laptop and a PC.
The PC is in SS's room and it was installed there specifically for SS to do his homework. He busted it. well I can't really say he was the one that busted it but I am sure all his game downloading didn't help. From what I can tell, the RAM is corrupted and needs replacing. The batery to the existing laptop is shot so it has to stay plugged in all the time. We already replaced the battery once but now the internal battery is gone too. Again, I do not know if it is repairable. Other than that, the laptop works fine but it has to stay plugged in.
What I am scared will happen is DW will bug me to buy a new laptop insisting that SS *needs* it for school. Knowing SS the way I do, he'll use the laptop for other crap. Now I could say "no games" on the new laptop and impose all kinds of restrictions on the usage of the laptop, but any of you who have read my blogs know that "no video game" rules in our house is as effective as telling a weed to stop growing. I don't trust SS and I don't trust DW to keep tabs on SS when he uses electronics in our house. But more to the point, we don't *need* another laptop and I don't want to argue with DW about it.
So I am seriously considering keeping my bonus a secret, and then using it for something else later on (our roof does need fixing). The thing is, I am not comfortable keeping my financial siuation a secret from DW. I mean, it feels akin to lying.
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This is a good suggestion,
This is a good suggestion, and one that benefits everyone.
I'll need to get an estimate
I'll need to get an estimate done but again, knowing DW the way I do, she'll try her darndest to to make a budget that will accomodate both the roof repairs AND purchase a new laptop. Next thing you know, DW will be showing me flyers of the latest "laptop sales" and argue that we can afford both, etc and urge me to act on the laptop sale now, now, NOW. It's a headache I want to avoid.
DW does *grasp* the concept
DW does *grasp* the concept of house maintainance. What she DOES NOT grasp is that big maintainance projects like roof repairs often run into cost overuns. So if I get an estimate NOW, she will think that is the grand total and will just quickly do the math:
Drac0's bonus - roof repair estimate = slush fund for new laptop
She'll then run out immediately out and start shopping. That is what I don't want her to do but I know she is going to argue with me over it.
Would it make more sense to not say anything about my bonus now, get the roof repair done and IF there is money left over then state I got a bonus?
I agree. This makes more
I agree. This makes more sense.
hmmmm....tough spot to be in.
hmmmm....tough spot to be in. I would not advise hiding it from her. But you should put your foot down on the no new laptop. And explain to her that you have a perfectly fine laptop even though it has to be plugged in, it still works. And SS doesnt "need" a new one for school. If he "needs" a new one for school the school should provide it or put it on a school supply list. And then her and SS biodad should be the ones responsible for buying it, not you. Explain that you believe that earmarking the money for fixing the roof is the most wise use of the extra funds.
If I know you like I think I
If I know you like I think I do, wouldn't a sewing machine be a benefit for everyone? Or do you view a new sewing machine as a personal goodie?
To be honest, I would probably buy something small to celebrate my good fortune (like the DnD Next modules) but most of my bonus I want to use to maintain/improve the house.
That's because it IS akin to
That's because it IS akin to lying
THIS^^^ I lump lying, secrets and sneaking around all in the SAME category. I despise each and every one of these things equally. Tell her about the bonus and shut her down on the laptop request. I mean, who knows maybe you're wrong and she won't even say anything about the laptop?
Perhaps when you tell her
Perhaps when you tell her about it, you can include in the same sentence what you are going to do with your bonus. Like, DW I got a bonus for my work performance in 2013 and I'd love to spend it on something fun, but I'm going to use it to fix the roof, and.... It's great because then we won't have to use OUR money for the roof repairs.
I was in the same spot a
I was in the same spot a month ago... I hid mine and ended up using it for my lawyer. It is sad to have to hide money but a new roof is a better bet than buying a spoiled child a new computer.
Don't lie to your wife. You
Don't lie to your wife. You will be creating more drama and problems if you do.
Also.....doesn't say much about your relationship if you're resorting to lying about money. I'd think about that if I were you.
My relationship with my wife
My relationship with my wife is fine. I do NOT want to lie to my wife but at the same time, I don't want to open the door to yet another argument over why I don't want to pour money into a new toy for her son.
I don't follow that
I don't follow that logic.
There are LOTS of things I do not communicate with my wife because I KNOW it will upset her and 100% of those things concern some issue surrounding SS. It's why I'm here on STalk in the first place.
I need to take this advice to
I need to take this advice to heart. Not to communicate with DW about SD because it will just end up in an argument. Sometimes I kick myself for bringing SD up ever, at all.
Oh I learned this the hard
Oh I learned this the hard way too! Even when SS does something stupid and pisses off DW, my marriage is better served keeping my pie-hole shut! If I even so much as nod my head in agreement, DW will turn the tables and accuse me of *some* wrongdoing. So I just shut-up and listen like a good husband.
There is some truth to that!
There is some truth to that!
What about putting it into
What about putting it into the new roof and a romantic getaway for a weekend somewhere - just the two of you. Would that be possible? Don't think she would mind that at all and you're being honest
See I thought of that
See I thought of that already...We had a yearly retreat we used to go to every year. Just the two of us. Fancy hotel with a spa treatment and 5-star dinner. I was planning to do that two years ago when DW dropped this bomb on me.
"Can we plan this getaway on a weekend that SS is with us? I would really like for him to see the place."
I haven't planned a romantic getaway for the two of us since
We got one teen, two toddlers
We got one teen, two toddlers and an attention-starved dog sleeping in rooms next to ours. We manage the bedroom Olympics just fine. We just don't sing our national anthems when we hit the gold medal podium
Guys are different like that
Guys are different like that HollowP....
Donkeykong gives SS his old
Donkeykong gives SS his old "hand me downs" which SS says he doesn't like using because they're "too slow". As it is Donkeykong is on the hook for paying his half of the tutoring fees which we just found out from the tutoring services that he hasn't paid yet.
Yes you are right. My bonus
Yes you are right. My bonus is MY bonus. I do work hard for it....BUT...DW does do her fair share on her end too in order to help me work hard. On those days where I have to do OT, she looks after the kids. When the kids are sick, she takes the time off work and not me because I am the higher wage earner. DW does all the laundry so I don't have to worry about what clothes I have to wear to work, etc....I think this is why it is hard for me to keep the news of my bonus from her.
Yeah, that's pretty much the
Yeah, that's pretty much the jist of it! Even though sound conflicted. I suppose what I am getting from here is that I am totally justified in spending my bonus the way I want to AND still straight up and tell DW how it's going to be with this extra cash?
>We stepparents dont need to
>We stepparents dont need to work harder to undo those parents mistakes.<
Nice! May use that as my new sig line!
Is money shared or
Is money shared or separate?
If you have shared finances it isn't fair not to tell her. If you have shared finances, how would you feel if she got a bonus and didn't tell you. From what I can tell about you you are a stand up guy and you aren't going to keep this a secret anyway even though you might be contemplating it now.
If your money is separate then your money is separate and it isn't a "secret," just use the money for the roof and say you got a bonus but rather than blowing it on yourself you wanted to use it for house repairs for everyone.
If your money is shared then you need to suck it up and have the fight and stand your ground. If we had a small windfall today I guarantee my DH would have it spent in his mind in the first hour... then I would say no. Just say no. When she starts talking about how awesome the laptop is and how SS just has to have one, listen to her, say, "wow that is a good deal" maybe we can save x amount per week out of your spending money and get one when they run the back to school sales, the bonus is for xyz.
Seperate. >If you have shared
Seperate.
>If you have shared finances, how would you feel if she got a bonus and didn't tell you.<
This is going to sound weird, but I have to be honest. DW has given so much of herself to me and to our kids that I would rather she DIDN'T tell me and splurge her money on a weekend in Vegas or something. I know she won't do that, but I really wish she could spend an ounce of her energy to do something totally selfish for once in her life.
Get the new roof Blow away
Get the new roof
Blow away the desktop O/S and reload, giving SS NO local admin to download games, go into components and uninstall all games that come with O/S. Set policy to lock SS out of internet gaming sites.
I NEVER tell Mr. Guilty Daddy about any raises, bonuses or reimbursements/expense accounts. I handle ALL the finances. He is a Spendaholic (and alcoholic) If he handled the finances (or anything else) I wouldn't have a roof over my head.
Can't even get to the OS. The
Can't even get to the OS. The RAM is corrupted.
Windows? format c: /u
Windows? format c: /u
Can't even get the DOS
Can't even get the DOS prompt. Blank screen and PC beeps.
Well at least it is posting?
Well at least it is posting? Bad RAM beeps? Crucial.com
On board or add on vid card?
Bad RAM beeps.
Bad RAM beeps.
crucial.com
crucial.com
Hey Drac0, it occurred to me
Hey Drac0, it occurred to me that if SS is kicking the desktop or has bumped in to it, the memory may simply be slightly dislodged. Open the chassis up and reseat the memory perhaps switching slots if there is more than one stick, then try again.
I got a sizable bonus a while
I got a sizable bonus a while back. I did not tell DH. He would be the least likely person to act entitled and start planning on ways to spend my money but I still didn't tell him. Some may consider that akin to lying but this is not my first rodeo. This is not my first marriage. I firmly believe that no matter how in love I am with DH and how awesomely we get along and how I can't even imagine life without him I still need to have a stash that is just mine. Just in case.
As it stands right now, he lives paycheck to paycheck and has only just started to rebuild from the financial disaster that was his previous marriage. He hands over a huge portion of his paycheck to his ex. He spends money on his kids when they are with us. If I were to disclose that kind of info to him, I would be terrified that he would spend even more on his kids and think to himself: Oh, next time we take a weekend trip, Mercury will be able to cover most of the expense.
He has never given me reason to think this way but I still wonder if he is capable of it. Even if it is a subconscious reaction, I would never want him to back off on what he contributes to our life together just because he knows I had a little extra stashed away. I already feel like I help support his kids financially every time I do a "normal" wife thing and help him out and I resent it.
If you are prone to resenting the money your wife spends on SS anyway, I would totally keep this one to yourself and have it 100% planned out (or even completely gone) before you tell her about it.
If I were to disclose that
If I were to disclose that kind of info to him, I would be terrified that he would spend even more on his kids and think to himself: Oh, next time we take a weekend trip, Mercury will be able to cover most of the expense.
BINGO!!
In my case, biodad DOES think he's entitled to EVERYTHING I have; if his kids were still coming, he would have taken my income to buy them matching mazda miatas. As it is he thinks money grows on trees. Almost all of his pay goes to CS and it will be that way for at least another ten years--I'm sure longer than that seeing this is NYS and CS can go on practically forever (which he amazingly doesn't have a problem with.)
NO WAY!!
I greatly appreciate your
I greatly appreciate your take on this Mercury.
This isn't my first rodeo either
My ex was BIG spender. She came home once with a $800 vacuum cleaner (I didn't know vacuum cleaners could get that high). This woman raked me over the coals when it came to budgetting. She had the gall to suggest that I eat peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches for lunch every day to save cash for our home while she went out to expensive cafés for lunch every day. Even though I was very open with my ex (at the time we were married) on the state of my finances, it caused more problems than it solved. It was no wonder that once I was divorced from her, my savings were finally in the black.
I don't *resent* my wife spending money on SS. I used to, because SS was a real Pavlov's dog at one point. If we pulled into a gas station, that was an automatic treat! Grocery shopping? Same thing. Or how about those gumball Vending machines that dish out those Made-in-China crap toys??? That was the first time I actually lied to my wife. She asked me if I had any quarters and I said no. Frack me! I had good reason to lie back then and I still feel bad about it!
I have a savings account,
I have a savings account, that is part of our portfolio, so DH knows about and can see how much I have in there, but he also knows that it is off limits to him.
the money I put in there comes from me doing PT work (judging horse shows here and there, tutoring etc) and the money I generate each month on boarding horses. These are things that I do in addition to my full time job that I feel is MY money. All of the monies from my "real" job go into our joint account for bills. DH will make remarks about my "special account" every once in a while, but tough titties...
I am going to be getting a fairly large retro check in the very near future when our union finally ratifies their contract after not having a contract for almost 2 years. Because that is linked to my "real" job that check will go into our joint account. I debated putting into my personal account but that didn't seem right to me given that it's monies that were theoretically earned from my "real" job.
Bah! Stick it in your
Bah! Stick it in your personal!
Draco...I don't think you
Draco...I don't think you could live with yourself by lying to your DW. And I think you know it is not the way to be in a marriage.
I am going to be honest. You need to take some control here. Why would DW even think she can just take your bonus for what she wants?
I would just tell her the following...
Draco: I got a bonus!
DW: yay..I can go buy a lap top.
Draco: Oh, I guess I forgot to tell you, I put that money into savings that is ONLY for home repairs.
DW: But we MUST have a lap top.
Draco: Well we can't use my bonus for that. It is just for home repairs. How about we both start a small savings and contribute to it until we SAVE enough money for a laptop.
You may have to repeat the home repair issue a few times, but she will finally figure out that you are serious about your bonus and what you want to do with it.
I'd tell her you got the
I'd tell her you got the bonus. What I would not do is purchase a new laptop with it. This is your bonus. You earned it. You worked hard and well over and beyond to earn a bonus from your employment. Kiddo has a laptop and if it goes belly up there is other laptops in home he could temporarily use for homework.
I would not appreciate my DH thinking a bonus I earned was automatically going to a child (bio or step), especially considering it isn't a urgent if even needed cause. The roof sounds like a generous first thought of using the money to benefit the household. Do it. I'd leave no room for argument for things like laptops. School is getting out for summer soon and if DW wants a new laptop for JR she can put a bit of her paycheck away each month to get one by the time school kicks up again I the fall (or she can pick up the phone and ask BD if he'd like to chip in on a laptop his child needs even though child can still use the one child has been provided with). Perhaps kiddo can spend the summer doing extra chores for grandparents, parents and neighbors to earn a new laptop.
I would say, "I got a bonus
I would say, "I got a bonus for good performance. I am going to use it to fix up our roof. The rest is going into savings for now."
When she makes noises about a new laptop or whatever, I would say, "I think that a roof is more of a priority. If you think a laptop is a priority, you can buy it with your bonus." All in a very nice, polite non-condescending tone, of course.
Tell her. Lies do not good.
Tell her. Lies do not good. Then show her a list of things that need to be done on the household with roof first and add how hard it is to save a good chunk of money for these things. Ignore her demands for a laptop while you articulate the following priorities for the money:
Priority 1:
- Family emergency fund
- Major repairs to the house
- Retirement plans are funded at acceptable levels (In Canada, you save tons on taxes - money for later - if you contribute to your retirement plans, not sure if same in US)
Priority 2:
- Something for the two of you to reward you two for your behaviour of working hard
Priority 3:
- New laptop for SS
Personally with your SS, I would never just give him a laptop. He doesn't deserve this reward. If there is money left over, tell her that a new laptop can be purchased IF AND ONLY IF: SS contributes a certain %; and/or (b) SS' last report card of the year shows a minimum grade level. If she's not onboard for this, too bad so sad then, the money is yours. If she is onboard with this, I would have her and SS sign a contract explaining the intent of the contract, the minimum requirements in order for him to get the laptop and the minimum and maximum funding for a laptop.
That's how I'd handle it.
If the laptop is not in the future and DW continued to "show you flyers" and "whine about it", I would simply say "Please stop. Just stop. This is not up for discussion. The decision has been made about the money."
Any chance you can point me
Any chance you can point me to that post?
I must be a horrible wife. I
I must be a horrible wife. I do not tell DH about any extra money we have. He can't even see our savings account. He'll spend it. When we first got married and I put him on all my accounts. He and SS spend 600.00 in two days. That was the end of that. I did not bust my @ss to save all that money to be spent on stupid crap. It's extra money you don't have to tell her about it. I let our state refund check go to our bank account. He spent it in a day. I sent the federal to my account and I used it to pay off our credit cards and put the rest in savings.