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Findselfrespect's picture

I've been married 10 years to my second husband (DH). His children have never accepted me. We got married too soon after the death of his wife (a year and a half), and I know that has contributed. Also, I have two children of my own and SKs saw me as "favoring" my kids, which I know I did. It has been incredibly difficult from the beginning. They were all teenagers when we married and all mid to late 20s now. We had all known each other from church and youth group activities so the kids weren't strangers to each other.  They'd actually been at each others homes several times. My SD in particular has been awful.  She is cold, rude, moody and controlling.  She wants to be in charge as she was somewhat parentified by her dad (mom was alcoholic and SD took on many adult roles.) As a teenager, SDs nastiness was blatant around the house, and passive aggressive around others.  Both SKs ignored my kids, who were only there half time and bounced back-and-forth between two houses, neither of of which felt like home to them at the time (my ex remarried as well, so my poor kids had six new "family" members in a period of a few months). My husband is a good man and is mostly supportive and loving.  He is patient and was there for me when I struggled greatly with depression. But the situation with his kids is so bad, I don't know if I can stay. My kids have gravitated towards their father over the years because they feel at home there now--his wife's children have accepted them. They do not like to come here when SKs are here. I dread holidays and any kind of family time because it's either a) DH here with me and his kids come (I feel like an invisible outsider in my own home) or b) DH leaves and does things with his kids elsewhere (Which would be fine, except that my kids' schedules don't always "match up" with theirs so I'm often just here by myself.)  Things go well when my kids are here with me and DH, but that hardly ever happens. If his kids are around when mine visit, it's awkward, uncomfortable and unpleasant. So they don't visit if his kids are here. Bottom line is I don't ever spend any significant time with my children. They spend holidays with their dad who is only 10 or 15 minutes from me, but they don't want to be here.  My ex has a fabulous new house, he's a great cook and so is his wife, and everyone there gets along.  My kids have never felt like my home is their home.  It breaks my heart.  I don't blame them, but I feel "homeless" much of the time.  There is really no where else for me to go to feel at home (my mom is still alive but difficult/was abusive when I was growing up/has dementia/depression.) I do go visit her over holidays, but usually just one day.  She could come here, but she's a very difficult person to be around and no one else wants to be with her if she comes. I have a little brother I love to spend time with, but he doesn't speak to my mother, which is understandable as she was worse to him, so I visit without her.  I'm sorry this is so long. Believe it or not there's much more to the story, but too much to keep detailing here.  Suffice to say I'm lonely much of the time as I seldom have time with my kids who are my only real family.  Leaving my husband is not going to make me feel less lonely. But staying finds me going from one dreaded event to the next, especially this time of year, with birthdays, Thanksgiving and Christmas. I'm not even allowed to be in the room when DH is talking to his kids on the phone, which is frequently.  I feel like I left my own kids and traded them for ones who don't want me ---and I don't want them.  My daughter actually said several years ago when she was leaving our house to go see her paternal grandparents that she "hoped I had fun with my new family." It killed me.  I absolutely did not choose a "new family" over them. I thought we would all get along and that it would be a happy step-family.  But that's certainly how it played out. It was naive and stupid of me to think this would be a smooth transition.  I just can't seem to gain the confidence to leave this marriage, as I at least have my husband's company some of the time.  Does that sound as pathetic as it looked when I just re-read it?  It's a series of unfortunate events... 

2Tired4Drama's picture

You mention that you and your DH belong/met at a congregation - have you sought out counseling services from your church? That would be the first place I'd go if I were you. Set up an appointment for yourself and discuss this matter to see if they can provide you any guidance.

Is it possible they can act as an intermediary of sorts - to meet with your DH and his kids (alone) and then with you and your kids (alone) with the goal of eventually getting everyone to at least act civil and polite?

If the kids got along prior to your marriage there isn't a reason they can't do so now - especially since they are all adults. 

Your DH should be laying down the law with his kids which is: Under no uncertain terms will you nor your kids be treated as "less than" in your home. If they can't abide by that rule, then they are not welcome. Your DH should go out and meet them alone (which it sounds like he does) which will at least allow you to avoid their nasty behavior.

You said that when your kids are there with just you and DH, things are fine. Well, I'd continue to do whatever possible to make sure your kids can come when the others aren't there. Even if it's just a casual mid-week dinner or a weekend lunch. Do whatever you can to maintain your connection with your kids.

It sounds like the ringleader of this is the SD which is no surprise. I don't like to be gender biased but it always seem like it is SDs who cannot, and will not, accept another woman in their father's lives. No matter what the circumstances are.  It's not you - it's her. It will always be her problem.

The one thing that concerns me is you said you aren't "allowed" to be in the room when your DH talks to her/skids on the phone. Is that his dictate? If it is, I'd have a serious problem with that. I can understand people may want some privacy when on the phone, but to "disallow" your own spouse free access in the home is just plain ridiculous.  Your DH needs to knock this off, stat.

I can feel your sadness in the words you write and you have my deepest sympathy. Please do not let yourself spiral down into depression again. I know your daughter said something hurtful to you, but it's because she's hurting too. And it isn't either of your faults. If any blame needs to be laid it's at the feet of your DH and these ingrates he raised.

BTW, when it comes to holidays try to think outside the box. Why not offer to take your kids on a weekend away?  Or go to one of their homes and have your celebration there?  Even if it isn't on the actual day itself, like Thanksgiving Day or Christmas Day, just plan to do it early or after. As adults, you can still have fun and excitement even if you gather together 2 or 3 days post/prior to the actual holiday!  It would really work well if  you could coordinate it when DH's kids come over so you can leave.  Of course, it's not a "normal" way to celebrate holidays but yours is not a "normal" situation.  You won't be celebrating with your spouse but maybe that's just what you need to do for a couple of occasions.

Put yourself and your kids needs first, for a change.  
 

 

 

 

 

Findselfrespect's picture

Thank you so much for your response. 2Tired. Also, I love your username, as I am also very tired of the drama. I'll try to address all you said. I appreciate your suggestions. My kids can't come by for dinner and such because they live far away. My daughter is in New York and my son is in Wisconsin. My X Lives in the same city I do about 10 to 15 minutes away. So when my kids come to town, they typically stay with him and I get whatever time is left, if any. As for the church helping, our church has gotten smaller and smaller over the years, and there really isn't anyone there that can be helpful.  I like your ideas for holidays, and I do try to do some of those things. Problem being both my son and daughter live in tiny one bedroom apartments and there's no room for us. Also, my son has a cat and my husband is allergic. Not a problem for me though.  But when I go to visit them, we do have to stay in a hotel or somewhere else. I've been working on trying to find an Airbnb that we can use every time we are there, so that would feel more like a home situation. My son and DIL just had a little baby, my first grandchild, and I want to be a significant and regular part of his life. Her family lives very close by and they are a big close family. I know that they will be the "favorite" grandparents, and I think I can be OK with that. What I'm concerned about is that, my son will come to town and spend most of his time with his dad and I will hardly be in the picture.  when you're traveling with children, it doesn't make sense to bring all that stuff to one house and then pack it all up and move it to another 15  minutes away.  Regarding myhusband's response when my SKs say they don't want me to be in the room when he talks with them in the phone... It's understandable that they want some privacy. But the thing is, they have run the show from the beginning. This is an old pattern that's been there for a long time. Even before I came along. Their mother was an alcoholic, and DH Gave both of them a lot more say in things than typical children have. The daughter especially has been parentified. He shares things with her in a way that you would share with a wife, not a daughter. And I don't mean this in an creepy way. It's just the pattern that developed. As he reminds me frequently, he is all they have. As a result, he will not say or do anything that might make them feel hurt or upset. He has told me flat out that if I force him to choose, he will choose them. And I have told him I am not asking him to choose between me and them. I am simply asking him to require that they be kind and appropriate to me and my kids when we're all together. The problem is we can't all agree and what is kind and appropriate. They've gotten away with being rude for so long, It's just how they behave. He says my kids are pushovers (he actually says, "they wouldn't say shit if they had a mouthful." ) I see my kids are pleasant and polite. They do stand up for themselves, but they do it in appropriate ways. They are direct when they need to be. But they simply have a gentler nature.  They're not at all competitive, and my husband's children are incredibly competitive.  So that's the crux of the entire situation. This has been going on for quite some time, and I don't think he is ever going to say anything to the kids. He says he has tried, but he's never actually just put his foot down and said you need to behave thus and such, or you're not welcome here. 

Dollbabies's picture

visit your kids without your husband? Even if they accept him, wouldn't it be nice to spend time with your kids alone? My kids liked my husband but they would still seek me out to have time when it was just us. Travel to see them would be cheaper if it was just you, too.

Your situation sounds really hard. I'm not sure I would be willing to put up with it, especially if my DH told me he would choose his kids over me. He's basically saying he and his kids can do whatever they want and you have to put up with it, no complaints - and that is grossly unfair. 

Findselfrespect's picture

I do visit both my daughter and son without my husband at times.  But they like him and have no problem with him.  So I'd say it's about 50/50, visits where he's included and visits he's not. I think my self esteem has been worn down in this relationship.  It's sad really that I think I need someone who won't make sure that all those he knows treat me with respect. (There have been other similar incidents with friends and family--no one being outright nasty, but leaving me out, making jokes that put down women, taking over my home/kitchen as if they live there.)  I think I was just so flabbergasted that he did nothing it was hard to know how to respond in the moment.   It's good to get other people's perspectives in this forum. Although, as everyone knows, the information I'm presenting is only my side. Just like everyone else who vents here. But still, it's nice to have confirmation that I'm not completely at fault.  

Winterglow's picture

You put way too much of the blame for this awful situation on yourself.  You husband should have had your back from the start. 

I cannot imagine having my kitchen and home taken over. My idiot SIL once tried to take over at a family meal I was hosting. She never dared try to do it twice...

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2Tired4Drama's picture

You have a DH problem. Any man that flat-out tells his spouse he would choose his ADULT kids over her is not worth keeping, IMO.

But that's something you have to figure out. I would rather die alone and at peace, than be treated as a "less than" by my supposedly loving life partner.  

As for spending time with your kids, I wouldn't even consider your DH in any planning. Too bad he's allergic to cats. All the more reason you should go ALONE to visit your son and grandchild! Same with your daughter. Get a plane ticket to go visit her for a long "girls" weekend. 

Let your DH stay home ...he can visit with his darlings. They appear to have a twisted enmeshment that nothing is going to untangle. Is this how you want to live the rest of your life?

I don't know about you, but I'd rather sleep on a folding cot in a corner at my son's small apartment for the holdiay rather than with a cold-hearted spouse and nasty stepkids in a cushy house. 

Yep, I'd rather be alone with my hopes and dreams still intact, than be looking into the cold eyes of a man who didn't even respect me nor truly love me. 

 

 

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PS I'm happy to sleep on a blow up mattress in my son's apartment and have.  I just think it's an inconvenience to them, as there's so little room. There's only one small bathroom, a small sofa and kitchen table seats 3. And only one person at a time can be in their kitchen area.  They're very much in love, but both are classically trained musicians and making very little money, especially now that it's just my son with an income. With a new baby, I sometimes feel I'm cramping their style. I'm trying different options, but renting a nice Airbnb where we can spread out and relax, cook a nice meal, might work.  I need to ask them how they feel about me staying with them.

Winterglow's picture

I wouldn't ask, I'd just get that air bnb and tell them that you felt you should give them their space now that the baby's here. They will appreciate it,  trust me. Asking would put them on the spot and they'd probably feel obliged to tell you to stay with them, that it's no trouble,  etc.

Findselfrespect's picture

I did get an Airbnb, but also don't want to assume indefinitely that they don't want me at their place when it's just me.  I have a very good and open relationship with my son and daughter-in-law, and I think they would be honest with me, especially if I make it clear, my feelings won't be hurt either way.  I want them to know that I'll do whatever they're most comfortable with and find enjoyable. The point of visiting is to be helpful and positive, especially when they have a new baby.  :)

Findselfrespect's picture

I can't disagree with much of what you say. Although he's not a cold man. He just doesn't know how to confront issues. He denies or avoids as much as he can get away with. And his kids are the same.  They're not bad people.  They're smart kids, with good values and ethics.  But the trauma they went through with their mom being an alcoholic and emotionally abusive, and then dying by suicide, finds him treating them always with kid gloves. (by the way, they did not know that she committed suicide until they were adults. She drowned and they thought it was accidental. Their grief process, being people who avoid and don't address things, is definitely a factor here.) He's a good father. He would do anything for his kids. And he is a very patient and loving man. Unfortunately, he thinks I'm  "reading too much into" their behavior.  He excuses what they do because of "what they've been through" and because he's terrified to make them feel abandoned or unloved...they've had enough of that.  I just don't think he Realizes that teaching them to address things appropriately in the moment is a much better way to resolve issues than being passive aggressive, competitive, and avoidant. The thing is...it works for them.  They get ahead.  They have his undivided attention. "The Three Musketeers" As I've mockingly referred to them, are very OK with the arrangement the way it is

2Tired4Drama's picture

These are not decent people with good values and ethics. An adult who behaves like your SD is not a good person. A DH who tells his wife his ADULT kids take priority to her is not a good person.

I understand his kids have had it rough since they lost their mom. I understand your DH wants to protect them and defend them. But these are ADULTS. If they have a problem with unresolved grief over their mother's death, they need to get counseling for it. They don't have license to take it out on you and YOUR children.

Who, by the way, seem to feel like they are losing THEIR mom. Because these not-so-nice people are heaping their anger and grief on all of you. 

Don't you see the irony here? Your adult stepkids lost their mom so DH won't stand up to them and make them confront their behavior.  Yet he is perfectly OK with YOUR kids becoming alienated/losing THEIR mom to accommodate him and his kids' problems!  

 

Findselfrespect's picture

Yes, I do, of course, see the irony.  Notice my username?  If I were not afraid to be on my own, I would likely have gently but firmly told him that he needed to put his foot down, or I'm done.  And, to be clear, I have said that.  And he makes gestures towards doing something. (his famous line is, "I'll talk to them.") And sometimes the talking helps. But not all the time, and not very much. He's unwilling or unable to say "you need to cut this out and you need to cut it out now you're not welcome here." There was a big blowup recently the last time my SD And her husband came to visit. I thought things were going fine. We have a lake home and they came for a week.  I was there for the first part of the week, left so that she  could have her dad all to herself for three or four days, and then came back for two days. I had barely woken up and was making breakfast and I did something she didn't like which she commented on in an extremely snotty way basically telling me what to do instead of asking. Mind you, I had been Kind, welcoming, undemanding while I'd been there before. I honestly didn't say a word about anything they did and I tried to be as laid-back as possible. I brought groceries they had asked for so they could cook what they wanted for dinner for all of us, and the first thing she says, not good morning, not anything pleasant, is to chastise me for putting peach peelings in the garbage because they had been attracting fruit flies. (and to be clear, they were attracting fruit flies. And we just talked about it. And it was very absent-minded and silly for me to put them in the garbage. But that's not the point. IT'S MY HOUSE. And she shouldn't talk to me that way. And my husband should've said something. But he didn't. He and my son in law were fine with it.)  So...I lost it. Started Stomping around like a three year old.  Slamming drawers, etc. she and her husband went upstairs, and I lit into my husband. It was not pretty. And both he and My stepson agreed that she had been bratty about the way she'd handled it. But my reaction was way over the top. She came down a few minutes later and apologized, but I knew she didn't really mean it. In fact, I asked her and she said she didn't mean it, but that she had only said it because she knew it was what I wanted to hear. She then proceeded to say that, there's been a problem for 10 years and it's not gonna get any better that I have expectations of her, that she feels like she has to walk on eggshells around me. I swear I just don't get that. Yes I have expectations that she should be kind, engage in conversation, that she should be pleasant.  But, as I said, we have different ideas about what that is.  My husband actually asked me if I wanted to have them leave. And I said no I don't want you to make them leave, I just want you to talk to her about this and let her know that she can't behave like that. It's like he just doesn't know how to do it.

Findselfrespect's picture

And, if you're thinking, I should've done it, that's true. I was just so livid I blew up. But the thing is, I think if I had said anything… Like "could you say that a little more nicely? " Or "what, no good morning?" I think my DH and SIL would have seen me as the problem.  It's like dealing with a bully.  If everyone goes along with the bully, the target is the problem. All it takes is one or two people to stand with the target and say "yes I agree with her. Cut it out."  But they don't do that. I do know how to stand up for myself. I've done it plenty of times. But when I try in this dynamic, I always end up feeling thrown under the bus. So I need to be a realistic about what my plan is my husband won't address this. I've asked that the three of us sit down and talk about the situation, or even the four of us with her husband there as well. I wanted to do it when we were there together, but she was way too upset. She actually started crying and said she felt crazy. And when her father, saw her crying, I look like the bad guy.. and to be fair, I was pretty out of control. I mean, I didn't throw anything, but I was clearly upset. And I was very angry in my tone with him. I think it's scared of her, because it's probably what her mom used to do.. 

Findselfrespect's picture

So the bottom line is I neeed to be able to assert my needs like a mature adult and be ok with the consequences if my husband can't meet my needs (ie won't stand up for me.) but those consequences mean I'll be alone.  I don't want to lose couples friends (which is all our friends) and split belongings and sell homes and live alone. I don't want to have to reinvent myself at 58.  I want to be strong enough to say I could do that, but I'm not so sure.  Anyway, you've given me much to think about and I sincerely appreciate your input . . 

2Tired4Drama's picture

Sure, it's very scary to start over at 58. And admittedly, there will be loss involved. 

But what you have to consider is what you will gain. Most importantly, you will gain a healthier and happier relationship with your own children and grandchild. Most people would say that in itself is priceless.

You won't have to "findselfrespect" you will have it. You will get comfort and peace knowing you are a worthwhile individual who has a right to be happy, and freedom to find it. You may be surprised to learn that you won't lose all your couples friends  - those who are true friends, anyway.  If people end a friendship because you are no longer part of a couple, you don't really need such shallow people in your life, do you?

Please don't misunderstand. I wish there were hopeful signs that your DH will change but it doesn't appear likely. So the status quo will remain. Only you can decide if being unhappy and feeling alone while married is worse than being alone and hopeful for the future - and whatever wonderment that may bring. 

 

MorningMia's picture

This would be difficult but look at the difficulty you're dealing with now. Also, more and more people are divorcing in their 60s. 50 and up aint what it used to be. Older people seem more active than ever today. You could meet the man of your dreams (not that that needs to be the main goal!)--someone who will respect you. 

Findselfrespect's picture

By the way, I should probably check with my kids on this, but I don't think they see my DH  or his kids as the problem. There are other dynamics at play in my relationship with my kids, especially my daughter, and some Of the distance between us is because of that. I do go and visit her and we've had some fun girls weekends, But I wanted to be clear that I'm not continuing to stay in a situation that alienates me from my kids just because I'm afraid to be alone.  I do think this is partly what's going on, but I also think that some of the issues between my daughter and I have different origins. In other words, part of why my kids are alienated from me is because of me, and not the situation. Thank you for your thoughts in all this.  I honestly will consider all you've said.  I hope your step-family drama is less than mine:)

Harry's picture

If he would put a stop to his kids being disrespectful years ago,  you would not be in this situation.  No person should be disrespectful to family members.  This dysfunctional has gone on for such a long time it's hard to change what's going on. 

I can not see how your DH is also disrespectful to you by taking his kids side instead to trying to get everyone together.. He going along with the crap.   

Rumplestiltskin's picture

How dare this adult kid chastise you for doing something a certain way in YOUR OWN KITCHEN?! How dare your DH make you leave the room when he talks to his poopsies, or encourage you to leave when they visit to "have alone time."

Adults don't need alone time with their parents. Sure, they may do things alone together, or have conversations with only each other, but when a skidult demands alone time with Daddy, what they are really demanding is for stepmom to leave. Another poster's adult SD made a big deal about going out alone with Daddy, then invited her friends and their parents. She never needed alone time, she just wanted SM gone. This type of behavior is absolutely done to exclude the stepmom.

Don't stand for it. If Precious doesn't like how you do things in your own home she can GTFO. Your husband, through his guilt and coddling and (possibly?) moving on too fast created these little monsters. You didn't steal anyone's man, this is not your fault. Stop paying for it.

That said, if you want alone time with your kids, do it. Tell your DH exactly why you want to visit them alone or have then visit you separate from the skids. It's not that you need alone time, but that the behavior of his kids is so unpleasant that your kids don't want to be around them. I like the idea of visiting your kids but renting a place to stay. Take them out to eat or, if money's tight, offer to cook for them amd make sure they know you will do the work. Take the step of reaching out. Also, you made a comment about something your adult daughter said which sounded a little snide. "Have fun with your new family." Don't take abuse from your kids, either. Explain the situation, apologize, and say you want to make it right. Then don't entertain continued negativity. Focus on the future. You deserve better than you've been getting. 

Findselfrespect's picture

I've put up with bad behavior.  Maybe if I were more assertive and coming from a place of power, I'd be able to do so.  But I often feel powerless in the situation.  Indeed, if my husband told me straight out he'll choose his kids over me when pressed, why am I surprised at all of this?  I think it's safe to say my self-esteem, or lack thereof, has landed me where I am. 

Winterglow's picture

OK so you've identified your needs - self assurance and self-esteem. I suggest you sign up for counselling to help you sort out your priorities and so you can learn why you feel so worthless to combat that. Has your doctor screened you for depression?

Findselfrespect's picture

Long history of depression and anxiety. Currently on medication, relative well controlled.  Meds don't improve self-esteem though:) Currently in counseling which isn't helping that much.  And costing a lot.  I live in a therapy desert.  I've had many therapist over the years. Can't seem to fix my lack of belief in myself.  But still trying Smile

Rumplestiltskin's picture

"my husband told me straight out he'll choose his kids over me when pressed"

What a bullshit thing to say to your supposed life partner. By saying that, he has already chosen. Since he declines to be your life partner, you should be that to yourself. Take care of YOU, first and foremost. If what's best for YOU is to stay but make some changes, do it. If what's best is to leave, do that. Don't worry about being painted as the evil stepmother because that's already happened. It's such BS, too. It seems the worse the BM is or was, the worse the stepmother gets treated. Damn right you can't and won't replace an abusive suicidal alcoholic. If that's what she even was (do you trust them?) You are your own person and that is enough. Be your own best friend. 

Rags's picture

Stop blaming yourself for DH's parental failures and his toxic spawns behavioral bullshit.  Lack of confidence, lack of assertion, or comming from a position of lack of power does not change the facts. Do yourself a favor, stick to the facts. Facts take zero introspection, they are about actual events, behaviors, actions, words, etc... No need to have a crisis of confidence over facts which are about past events.  I get the confidence challenges in real time as events are occurring. So, adjust, focus on the facts, put those firmy in your DH's face. That requires zero justification, if he tries, just keep countering his blather with ... the facts.

A concern I have is that in this relationship and blended family dynamic you have zero platform of confidence. You are standing on a platform built by DH and his kids.  Not a place anyone can live their best life if that platform has a strong structure of manipulation and control over you.

Move on. Life your best life, live well.

Also remember to always consider that Church and congregations are highly political polarizing if not polarized environments.  As you get on with your best life, find a better spiritual environment and community.  Do not risk remaining in any way under the hairy eyeball, manipualtion, and control of your DH and his spawn.

Rags's picture

 No relationship can survive if both partners are not all in. You are, he isn't.

You should not sacrifice yourself and your best life for a sliver of time where you may not be not lonely.  You have adult children that you need to invest in fostering a relationship with. Your DH does not make you or the marriage his priority.  So, why should you?!  You are settling for scraps which he is happy to serve your just enough to get able to do what he wants, when he wants, with who he wants.  Which for him, is his failed family spawn.

I suggest that you give yourself access to your best life, take the do-over, start a new life.  Living well drives closeness with others.  If you are living well, you are gravity that others who are of quality are drawn to. If you do not respect yourself enough to live well, your own children will struggle to respect and be close to you.

You know that your relationship is not of quality.  You cannot fix him or them (his kids), you can however invest in yourself and living  your best life.  If I were you, I would take the do-over and move on to a far better future than the one you face if you stay.  Investing in living well demonstrates that you're working on you, which is also working on your relationship with your kids.  

If you do nothing and continue the status quo, nothing changes.  KISS. 

Be good to you. Take care of you.

IMHO of course.

Give rose

 

Findselfrespect's picture

Each perspective above is helpful and I appreciate them all. And I've actually said many of these things to myself over the years.  The thing is, DH does treat me very well...when it's just us.  He's kind and loving , very positive and has a good sense of humor.  He's a hard worker and an excellent provider.  But whenever the topic of his kids comes up, that changes somewhat.  "You can't sacrifice yourself for a sliver of time where you may not be lonely."  It's more than a sliver.  But I don't think it's enough.  I don't know how many of you are in what you'd call healthy marriages, but for those of you who are...do you feel loved, respected, and supported by your spouse 100% of the time?  I agree that if my kids see me not respecting myself, they won't respect me...which may already be the case to a certain extent.  No relationship is perfect.  But this one may be flawed enough that it's not healthy for me.  Just sad that his kids have ruined this for us. 

Rags's picture

If he does not treat you well all of the time, he is an asshole. Keep It Stupid Simple (KISS). If he does not treat you well in front of his kids and everyone else making you and the marriage you share his priority, he is not all in.. More importantly, he needs to have his fists at the throat of anyone who would disrespect  you.  

Move on, take the to do-over, he is a dick, he needs to find that being an asshole costs him you. Being alone when you are with someone is so much worse than being alone by yourself.  Being alone by yourself gives you the chance to find the person you like being. The person who will not tolerate shit like you are married to and the shit that he has created to pollute the human gene pool far in excess to just him.

I have had both a shit marriage, and one that includes a life of adventure and a love for the ages together.  During marriage then personal  therapy for the last 10mos of my marriage I began the process of rediscovering the person I like being.  That person was like holy water to my serially adulterous skank whore of an XW.  By the final divorce hearing I was once gain a "confident young man with a childlike zest for life".  I have never again abandoned being that confident young man with a childlike zest for life. Not even now at 60yo.  I am no longer a young man, but I never have reverted to the sullen defeated man I was at 26yo. I learned that happy is up to me.

My commitment to that is for my incredible bride, and for myself.

I have had both.  Including time to focus on me, to love myself, and realize that all of my experiences are what made me the man that my bride of 30 years wanted to make a life with. As her experiences prepared her for our lives together.

Neither of us had to change who we are or sacrifice themselves for us.  We have become better together  by bringing who we were to our relationship.

Do not settle. Go for it all. Give yourself a chance at being your best you whether that is alone or with the quality person that living well brings into your life.

I know I have a unicorn blended family marriage. I know I won the parent lottery and have the foundation and example of parents who have been married 62 years making a wonderful life together, a great marriage together, being great parents, GPs and now GGPs.

My first marriage was a huge learning experience for me.  It is okay to learn, reset, and go after the right life.

To answer your question, we both are fully in 100% of the time. Of course we have disagreements, we do get frustrated with each other.  However, we love each other and support each other 100% of the time. Even when we may not agree, even when one, the other, or both of us may be in a hard place.   Certainly there are things over the years that each of us have struggled with individually and that we avoided discussing out of embarrassment or some other hesitance. Nothing that is a poison pill, just human stuff that took time to work through. Ultimately, even with delayed communication we are in it together.

IMHO, that is what being all in all of the time entails.