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Mamarnphwr1's picture

I am 23. My husband and I got married June 2020. My husband had a little boy, who is 9 almost 10, which is an angel most days, but he is starting to grow up. (Slowly entering the puberty phase)

Well in September 2020 we found out we were  pregnant. March 2021 my first born made his appearance, then November 2021 found out Im pregnant again and my 2nd was born June 2022. So quickly I became stepmom, then first time mom. Also January 2021, my husband, the oldest of our boys, father in law moved into my home.

My husband and his son were living with my father in law because my husband was working all the time & his father helped him with making sure his son had a way to and from school & general childcare so my husband could work and provide. 

My stepsons grandfather plays a big role in his life because that had been who has been with him each and every day. My father in law is 77 as of September. My husband has 7 other siblings- 6 being older, 1 just a year younger than him. 
 

My husband hasn't really had to "parent" because all he ever really did was work. He's a great daddy and loves the boys whole heartedly, but I do not agree with his "parenting." 

My stepson has never had to do anything.. My father in law has babied him the whole time my husband has had custody. I feel like I'm mean sometimes, but I know I am not being mean, because I grew up with a HORRIBLE stepmom, and my husbamd has a even worse bringing up with his mother and stepfather. 

*Background* 

My husband & stepsons mom were dating at 17 or 18 & she got pregnant. Never married, but they stayed together thru the pregnancy & until my stepson turned 2. From what I have been told by my husband- They didn't want to stay together really anyway, but both parents wanted them to try because of the child. She ended up leaving and had someone else almost immediately which his name is Chris. & She is still with Chris as of this day. 

Chris was beating her. He also would abuse my stepson. (REMEMBER AT THE AGE OF 2-4) He would have my stepson stand in the corner for hours at a time. If he tried to lean or sit because his legs were hurting, he would get hit. He would make him take a freezing cold bath. If my stepson would try to tell his mother (HIS OWN FLESH AND BLOOD) she would have to ignore it or say he's lying so she wouldn't be beaten. Just a lot of horrible shit, my husband found out and immediately got him out of there, filed for emergency custody, she ended up signing her rights over so Chris didn't have to go to jail. My husband and Father in law gave Bryce the choice if he wanted to see his mom or not under supervision, or at a trusted family members. Well he still wanted to see her and have time with her. (Which I think wasn't the best but I wasn't around at this time) His mother is still with Chris & they had twins right after my husband got custody. His mother is not abusing any drugs or alcohol. Very well known member of the church as well as Chris. -_-

I know I am very careful with how I react, because I don't know what may trigger him and I don't want him to be reminded of those things, he is a child. He's very mature and intelligent. SUPER SMART. 

But he is super lazy. I know he hasn't really had a mother figure around, and he wants a closer relationship with his mom so bad, but she doesn't care. Me and her are cordial. I've told her 100 times she is more than welcome to come here and even bring the other kids if she needs to and spend time with bryce. She maybe comes to see him 1 time a month no more than an hour and half. Last christmas SHE STAYED FOR 15 MINUTES TOPS. From the first step in the door to the last step out. I even told her I WOULD LEAVE if it was something like that, given her more than enough to grab and run with ya know? She doesn't care. We are all just kind of waiting for my stepson to realize it himself... 
 

My stepson isn't always the most respectful towards me, (eye rolls, slams door, trys to play me for being stupid, or beats around the bush with things.) My husband hates being hard on him for what he's gone through, but that drives me insane, because he's still trying to get away with bad grades or "he forgot" is an excuse a lot. I expect this out of all the kids, but the little ones are 1 and 5 mo 

so the parenting is a little different because they are at different stages in life. 

I don't think me telling my stepson to keep his room clean is a bad thing. We aren't filthy people and we will not live that way. My stepson always tells on me and his dad to his papa, and his papa acts like a damn child, gets mad at us, wont speak to anyone except my stepson, helps him clean his room, doesn't even interact with the babies, NOTHING. 

(Last XMAS my father in law had a heart attack & had to have open heart surgery- was in the hospital for 4.5 weeks. wasn't really sure if he was going to make it.) 

Before that ^ My stepson and I never really had much of a relationship because he was very anti social and only hung out with his papa, papa took him to and from school, but when his papa went to the hospital, thats when I got the chance to spend time with him and actually "become a parent figure." My stepson was perfect the whole time, didn't give any problems. Which I know he has a lot of stress and anxiety, and worries soooooo much about too many things. 

I just I don't know . My husband sometimes thinks Im singling my stepson out, but I'm not, I ask him to keep his room clean, no food or drinks because he can't keep it clean. I expect good grades, and schools a priority. He started to have failing grades a few months ago & I wanted to snip that in the butt because I was a kid too I know how they think... I had a stepmom too. He was goofing off too much in school, not wanting to get HW done bc he needed to be on XBOX & it took 1.5 month to get my husband to OK taking the xbox. After given him 4-5 different chances or ultimatums and he didn't do those. He took his Xbox for 1 week . & told him if he didn't make 85 or above on the next two tests which were the following 2 days it would be gone again. - He didn't make those but they were passing grades, which I acknowledged that and told him it was great but his dad told him 85 & up or it was gone. Well my husband didn't want to take it. So theres another thing my stepson see's that oh I can get away with it. 

I have reminders on his wall on whats expected out of his room being clean. I also have rules in the kitchen. Nothing is working. My father in law goes against what I have to say and it pisses me off so bad. My husband is too idk I guess scared to confront his dad about these things. 

i just I don't know. Its not like I'm asking them to deep clean every day. We just got more than half of our home renovated/remodeled because we had a black mold issue, and I wanted a change of scenery. 

I expect people to clean up after themselves, or rinse your dish don't leave it in the sink, or if the babies are sleeping try not to be very loud because this is a modular home, i just tore out drywall these walls are not insulated except whst touches the outside, so its easy to hear clear conversations in the neighboring rooms. 

I just need to know how I can get my husband to talk to his dad, or how boundaries and rules can be clear and expected. I feel like I am going absolutely crazy, I can't ask for help because my father in law is so old and does things half ass, and my stepson literally has no common sense and has never been made to do anything. 

Idk, I just want to be a good mother figure, and we are a family so I believe we should be helpful in keeping the house in order and clean. I told everyone I don't expect anyone to clean up after the little ones I will do it. But I cant DO EVERYTHING. My husband works long hours, I juggle between my own thoughts, and 2 babies & cleaning up after slobs. I need advice. I have like no break, no self care. I'm just slowly fading away. And we dont know how long my father in law has, but he wont be here forever to do everything for the kid. He needs to learn responsibility. I want all 3 of my kids to grow into respectable and well mannered young men. 

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Livingoutloud's picture

If his mother signed off her rights how is it she still have visitations? No court would give visitation to a parent whose parental rights were terminated (voluntarily or mandatory). 

Mamarnphwr1's picture

my husband and father in law left it v up to my v stepson if he wanted to see her still, they didn't want to keep him from her if he still wanted to see her... My stepson really wishes his mom would be around more, and tells her literally everything, too much . 

Winterglow's picture

I don't understand how Chris avoided jail - child abuse is child abuse, no matter who commits it.

Mamarnphwr1's picture

She wasn't wanting to press charges, which I would have in a heart beat. The whole DSS case is just odd, but I guess every state has their places like this. I've gone through all the papers my husband has in the filing cabinet. I would have hurt that man, but my husband said he would if he saw him again, but at that point in time he was focused on getting his son and keeping him and not trying to make it hard for him to do so. 

Winterglow's picture

I am appalled. When a child is abused, there should not be the option of not pressing charges. I also find it utterly shameful that BM preferred to write off her child and keep the brute. She chose to keep the abuser and throw away her son. Sickening. 

justmakingthebest's picture

Is your SS in therapy or has he been? Can you talk to a therapist about how to handle these situations. Abused or not, life will still have to happen and expectations aren't a bad thing. I understand not wanting to trigger him or make him feel unsafe, but grounding him because he didn't clean his room isn't abuse. It isn't too harsh or cruel. It is an expectation that if not handled has a consequence. 

I think a therapist would be able to help you navigate appropriate and natural consequences for him that will still make him feel safe and loved but accountable. We all want our kids to successfully launch into adult hood but the current track he is on will create an emotionally stunted adult with no ability to self correct. 

Mamarnphwr1's picture

I know for a year or so he was in therapy, but I know he hasn't since I have met my husband. 

Thank you 

AllIsFairInLoveAndWar's picture

Being undermined as a step parent sucks. Your taking on responsibility for another child, doing all the things I assume (laundry, meals, transportation, homeowrk, talking about things that may bother him, gifts, special treats...etc) but you get none of the say with that child. Sometimes for me it almost feels like Im expected to do EVERYTHING for my SD but am constantly reminded that Shes not mine and that dad has the final say on everything, even though Im the parent that spends the most time caring for her. Its not fair. 

I dont have much advice cuz DH and I still struggle with this sometimes. Just keep trying to talk to DH about it, and remind him that you do the things for SS that you do, to help make your DHs life easier and instill that yall are a family. Maybe if you dont get a say, dont keep doing some of the things to help DH out. make him carry all the responsibility for a while. Its not right for everyone, and I cant personally bring myself to do it (Im a control freak) but maybe you can? Good luck Mama and remember your doing better than you think you are. 

TrueNorth77's picture

Specifically with chores and school. I don't have a FIL living with us, but I am often made out to be the villain if I ever get upset that skids aren't doing the chores they are supposed to be doing. I too had a SM who was absolutely awful to me, and I had WAY more chores than these kids do, but I don't hate or resent my SM for making me do them, I actually think it was a positive thing. I also cooked a lot for myself, and I was proud of what I could do as a kid. Skids here have one measly 5 min chore Mon-Wed, clean their rooms MAYBE once every 2 months, and do their laundry (1 load a month). Honestly, skids are fine with the chores since they have been in place for 7yrs now and they are used to them. SD13 does them automatically without complaint. SS16 sometimes does them without a reminder, sometimes tries to act like he forgot in an effort to get out of them. It's when we added in an additional wknd chore of unloading/loading the dishwasher that has caused WWII in our house. A few suggestions that helped this become more of a set rule in our house that might work for you-

A quick Google of "are chores good for kids" will bring up article after article of why YES, chores are good for kids. I would print one and have your DH and FIL read it.  

Next, Make a chore chart/house rules list that is visible to all in the home. Cleaning his room, and several other chores can be added. When I did this, I engaged DH and had him pick the chores himself. I took a recent course in a SM seminar, and it suggested sitting down with DH and SS (and maybe FIL) and going over these things to ensure everyone is on the same page. It could be reiterated that these are SS's chores, to be done alone. Include "rinse your dishes", be quiet when babies are sleeping, etc. 

Your DH is not doing SS any favors by treating him differently due to past abuse, but this is a harder one to get through to them. My DH also expects skids to do well in school, but when they don't, he will not enforce the punishments he has threatened. They are just setting skids up to be terrors as they get older, and I can see SS16 thinking he doesn't have to listen to DH now. I wonder why- nothing is ever enforced, he doesn't take DH seriously half the time. There are also plenty of articles on that online also..."guilty parenting"... 

ESMOD's picture

Correction without connection breeds resentment.  Your husband needs to be the one setting standards with his son.. and setting consequences.  Sure.. he can ask your opinion.. but a list in your writing on the wall? nope.. recipe for resentment and disaster.

And.. you have a DH problem... he abdicated his parental responsibilities to someone else.. his father.. who now feels he has a right to weigh in on how the child is raised/treated.  

Your husband needs to want the changes you want.  It sounds like he doesn't care as much as you do. is he also laid back on parenting your other joint children?

So.... you need to figure out what your boundaries are.. filth.. ?  clutter?   messy room? Pick the stuff that impacts you..  So.. maybe you don't worry whether the kid makes his bed every day.. or isn't great about putting away clothes or whatever.. but he cannot grow science experiments in his room.

Make those hills to die on your husband's problem.. if the boy doesn't do it.. your husband does it.  not you.. him.

Mamarnphwr1's picture

Its a list typed on the wall because of the "I forgot" When its been a everyday thing for a year now. " We love you ❤️ -Dad & my name. As I typed it my husband was right there with me, so I could make sure there wasn't anything misunderstood, and sometimes I explain things way too complicated. I mean theres 5 or 6 things - No food and drinks, take your trash out when full, keep it picked - bc he has lots of lego's and other small items, dirty clothes in basket not all over, & nothing but shoes under the bed because when he "cleans" he pushes everything under there. 

My husband and I discuss everything because I know watching my SM and father, he let her control everything. NOTHING went thru him first and when she finally did say something it was an out right lie. I finally was able to prove that to my dad, but it took 3 years. 

I really don't expect much from the kid, but I do expect him to clean up after himself, and take care of his belongings. He got a brand new iPhone from his grandmother last year, lost it in March & hasn't seen it since. I have helped him go through every single nook and cranny in this house, still no where to be found. 

Rags's picture

Focus on the facts, reality, and behaviors.  If SS makes poor behavioral choices, address them in real time with effective consequences.  His experience with his Bio Mom and her clan are irrelevant to that.  Set the standards of behavior and standards of performance and hold him accountable just as you would you own children. Insist tthat your DH enforces the same.  If he is your true partner and worthy to be, he will step up.

IMHO your DH and his dad were dipshits in giving a young child the choice to see anyone toxic and who served him up as a victim to a child abuser/wife beater.  Even it that POS is his mother.  What viable adult/quality parent abdicates their adult position to a toddler to make their own decisions?

Though nowhere near as severe as your blended family situation and the high risk situation your SS is exposed to on the shallow and polluted maternal side of his gene pool, we did have to battle a toxic and manipulative SpermClan for 16+ years under a CO raising my SS-30.  My DW had full physical and legal custody of SS from birth.  The SpermClan had 7wks of visitation per year. (5Wks summer, 1Wk winter, 1Wk spring)  Even with that limited long distance visitation, they tried to manipulative, and PAS SS with lies, etc....  So, we introduced him to the facts in an age-appropriate manner.  As he got older and would come home from SpermLand visitation upset that his "mother was making his 3 younger (spermidiot spawned) half sibs by making the SpermClan pay CS" etc... we provided SS with clarity with the facts. Ultimately we reviewed the court rulings, Spermidiot's arrest record, etc, etc, etc...... By the time SS was in his tweens and through his teens he was doing his own research in our custody/visitation/support files when they would spout shit that did not pass the smell test. The last 3-4 years under the CO he was calling their crap in real time when th would lie, manipulative, etc....   They did not like that at all. SpermGrandHag lost her proverbial shit over SS knowing the facts which gutted their ability to manipulate SS and lie to him. For the most part.

Kids need the facts. The need them to protect them selves from the toxic half of their family, if so cursed, and they need them as adults. These toxic people never stop. They are insidious.  If the kids do not have the facts and have the support of the qualith side of their blended family they can overcome even the toxic.  

My SS is now 30, has put his SpermClan far behind him for the most part, and is thriving as an adult, a professional, and a man.  His 3 younger half sibs are sadly failing in adult life.  Spermidiot spawn #2 is on the dole, #3 is in prison, #4 is not too far behind #3.  It is heartbreaking for our son and for his mom and I.  Though he understands he is far better off with limited interface with any of them.  My SS and his sister detest their Spermidiot. #3 and #4 worship their father. Which is why they are either convicts or prison bound depending on which one is in question.

Protect your family. Including SS.

Good luck.

Focus on the facts, reality, and behaviors.  If SS makes poor behavioral choices, address them in real time with effective consequences.  His experience with his Bio Mom and her clan are irrelevant to that.  Set the standards of behavior and standards of performance and hold him accountable just as you would you own children.

IMHO your DH and his dad were dipshits in giving a young child the choice to see anyone toxic and who served him up as a victim to a child abuser/wife beater.  Even it that POS is his mother.  What viable adult/quality parent abdicates their adult position to a toddler to make their own decisions?

Though nowhere near as severe as your blended family situation and the high risk situation your SS is exposed to on the shallow and polluted maternal side of his gene pool, we did have to battle a toxic and manipulative SpermClan for 16+ years under a CO raising my SS-30.  My DW had full physical and legal custody of SS from birth.  The SpermClan had 7wks of visitation per year. (5Wks summer, 1Wk winter, 1Wk spring)  Even with that limited long distance visitation, they tried to manipulative, and PAS SS with lies, etc....  So, we introduced him to the facts in an age-appropriate manner.  As he got older and would come home from SpermLand visitation upset that his "mother was making his 3 younger (spermidiot spawned) half sibs by making the SpermClan pay CS" etc... we provided SS with clarity with the facts. Ultimately we reviewed the court rulings, Spermidiot's arrest record, etc, etc, etc...... By the time SS was in his tweens and through his teens he was doing his own research in our custody/visitation/support files when they would spout shit that did not pass the smell test. The last 3-4 years under the CO he was calling their crap in real time when th would lie, manipulative, etc....   They did not like that at all. SpermGrandHag lost her proverbial shit over SS knowing the facts which gutted their ability to manipulate SS and lie to him. For the most part.

Kids need the facts. The need them to protect them selves from the toxic half of their family, if so cursed, and they need them as adults. These toxic people never stop. They are insidious.  If the kids do not have the facts and have the support of the qualith side of their blended family they can overcome even the toxic.  

My SS is now 30, has put his SpermClan far behind him for the most part, and is thriving as an adult, a professional, and a man.  His 3 younger half sibs are sadly failing in adult life.  Spermidiot spawn #2 is on the dole, #3 is in prison, #4 is not too far behind #3.  It is heartbreaking for our son and for his mom and I.  Though he understands he is far better off with limited interface with any of them.  My SS and his sister detest their Spermidiot. #3 and #4 worship their father. Which is why they are either convicts or prison bound depending on which one is in question.

Protect your family. Including SS.

Good luck.