Step Parents aren't Real Parents
So, I'm getting this you don't have the parental bond of giving birth to the children, so what you think doesn't matter nor should you have a say... Just shut your mouth and sit in the corner nicely while my kids walk all over you is the mind set of what a Step Parent should be..
Okie dokie, you got it!!! Be very careful what you ask for.. The Disengaged non of my business may not be what they think it will be.. It isn't just one thing these days that has my attitude meter pushing red.. It is a whole load of everything over 15+ years of trying and trying to be a part but rejected at every chance they get.. I'm tired of being pushed away like I'm just the below average Joe off the street and expected since I have the disignation of Step that I'm not a part of the family.. I'm tired of this attitude that I need to find my place and accept it.. I have as much right as the next member of the family that DOES NOT have step in their title.. They sure are making it so much easier to Disengage now that I have accepted the idea of Disengaging is the best for me.. I do count, even if I'm the only one that thinks so..
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You do count
I've been through this too. Yes, you DO COUNT. Sometimes you have to be your own best friend and stand up for yourself, because no one else will. I find that actions speak louder than words. Hang in there, and do what is best for you.
I totally get this feeling
Man do I feel this! I remember many days of stepping in and being the parent becuause nobody else would. I remember caring for my step children and loving them as my own. I remember giving up things I really wanted to pay for thier sports that BM refused to. I remember stressing worrying and doing my best to help them succeed, but I'm not really the parent. I didn't give birth to them....Dang, it's not fair or right. You deserve equal space in the good parts of the lives of these children as well as the bad/hard parts. You don't get this because the birth parent(s) are insecure about their own place in the childs life. This bleeds on to the children and thus we the steps are considered less...you aren't less and hopefully at some point these children will grow up and get it. Until then disengaging can feel freeing even though you will likely be judged by those children for this as well. Just know people like me (teachers, counselors, friends parents), we see you and know how important you are. We see you and you are "real" and you're doing a good job.
I had the conversation
With my Dad. My Dad who is my STEP dad. Ive been telling him how it is for me. Its hard to describe in just one sentence or paragraph. Or even mulitple paragraphs.
My Skids:
SD23 Feral Forger. Hated me as a teen, was a difficult personf for her parents to deal with. Her younger sister despises her. We tried, or rather I tried to build a bond when she was older (a few years ago) and that failed. She accuses me of taking her father away from her. Shes also a nasty pig who steals.
SD15/16 Backstabber/Munchkin. We were really good friends from 8.5-11 ish. I would spend afternoons at the park or the beach, or museums just her and I. I advocated for her, and we would have really great talks. Now of course she is super enmeshed with Toxic Troll her mother, and its hard to tell where one begins and the other ends. Pluas shes at that age of individuation. Plus shes been lying and manipulating. Every time I have stuck my neck out for her, my head gets chopped off. Im not to be considered. Ive always done something REALLY nice for her birthdays, things like strawberry picking with her friends culminating in chocolate fondue with sprinkles. A first trip to a fancy hair salon just because. Mani pedi just for fun. Lunches, live music.
last year she didnt even say happy birthday. When something happens or Im sick there is absoulutel no "how are you doing Clove".
Step relationship is very very non-reciprocal. We can give and give and do and help, and its all one way. I didnt do any of this to get something back, I am noticing that nothing is flowing my direction at all, everything is reserved for friends and PARENTS. The dog gets more sympathy than I do.
So, on to new directions and new flavors of disengagement. Now Im doing for me, and practicing the art of letting go. Which goes completely against my tenacious nature.
Sounds like you are getting a good handle on the emotional gymnastics that is necessary to be disengaged.
I really don't agree with
I really don't agree with this.
As a stepparent, you may not have an obligation to support or raise your Skids.. but all members of a household should be respectful to one another. But, just by virtue of marrying someone's parent.. that also doesn't give you carte blanche to ride herd on your skids.. pretend you are their mom.. demand their love.. their affection.. or even a big place in THEIR lives.. you may be "dad's wife".. and that is OK.. as long as the household operates respectfully towards you.. and your partner PARENTS his children and expects good behavior.
You DO have a say in your household.. but so does your partner.. if the relationship is good? you are able to balance priorities.. needs.. wants of all the members of the household. and note.. I don't necesssarily say family.. because.. sometimes.. it's hard for skids to really view a sp as "family".. they didn't choose you..they didn't get a say.. and it's different than "you don't get to pick your parents." it just is and again.. being Mom's husband.. or "dad's wife" is a fine relationship as long as common courtesy.. reasonable boundaries and respect as a joint head of the household is given and supported by your spouse. That may mean you don't get a say in their academic progress.. but you would get a say if they are destroying the walls of your home. etc...
I think a lot of Stepparents feel their POV regarding issues that don't have a direct impact on them or their assets should be just as valid as the bio parent's... but I think the bio parent has the ultimate decision over how those issues are decided.. a good partner will listen to your input.. but will ultimately make THE decision for their child.. as long as they understand the common understanding on expectations for the child after 18/HS.. and operate according to them.
Disengaging doesn't mean allowing skids to destroy your home.. steal from you.. it means that you stop caring if they take out the garbage.. whether they are on their phone too much.. whatever.. let your DH take out the garbage if that's what he wants to do.. and as long as they are meeting dad's school expectations (and he manages that).. whatever on the phones.. as long as it doesn't impact you personally.
Disengaging is freeing yourself from worry of outcomes because you are secure that your partner will deal with the fallout.
You don't get it at all..
You don't get it at all.. These are Adults.. Not teenagers who are still learning about how to treat people.. This is adults way past the tolerance age of disrespect.. This is years of trying to keep peace and be included in the family for the sake of two Disabled Grandparents in wheelchairs and Disabled Father on a limited income.. It years of making multiple plans for a sit down meal to hear about their lives only to be called and canceled a few hours from the gathering.. And to find out that they already had other plans and never intended on showing up at all.. It's making arrangments for the family gathering to meet the new grandbaby and they cancel once again only hours before gathering because they made other plans with her side of the family and was already at her families house.. I'm done.. They have shoved us one too many times out the door.. No more.. It isn't just about taking out the barbage.. I wish it was that simple..
you are not their parent.
you are not their parent. you did nice things,,,they still don't consider you any more than dad's wife. they have the right to disengage...just like a step parent does. No.. you are not their "real" parent.. not sure this would ever be a realistic expectation.. so you should always act accordingly. I'm sorry they have not been more gracious.. but their loss right?
not telling you to just accept crap by the way.. but you continued to try.. and it continued to go no differently.. they didn't change their tune did they?
so be done..if you do anything with or for them again.. it is not for their sake.. but for the sake of people you care about.. otherwise.. just let it go.. why hold on to bitterness when they don't care?
Exactly, time to disengage..
Exactly, time to disengage.. Their lose.. And yes it is Okay to be bitter, it protects the heart which they don't care about anyway.. So I'll do what I need to keep my family happy minus them.. If the bitterness was at everyone in the DH family that is one thing... But it isn't..
dealing with adult steps
I am dealing with adult SS and DIL who simply do not acknowledge me. Mail is only address to my husband. I'm never greeted when visiting, never thanked, not directly included in conversation and not included in any family pictures (photo books of the kids are our Christmas gift). I'm not the grandmother or mother, so try to give them all space, but interact as kindly as I can. It has become the seesaw of getting angry for not insisting on some respect, especially when they visit for the summer-not long, but enough, and trying to keep the peace for the sake of my husband, because he loves his grandchildren, who are still young enough to enjoy their Pop. The children are fine, very well behaved. I go to birthday parties and events. Extended family is good to me, so there's that. Just not wanting to add to what is already a toxic situation. My husband and I are updating wills this year and I want to address SS and DIL because I feel certain if my husband predeceases me they might cause issues regarding that whole ball of wax-want to be sure I don't wind up in a bad situation if he dies. I want everything on paper and discussed. I will quite honestly be relieved if that happens because it simply remains an open wound at this point. These are adult people, well respected and able to make their own choices. I puzzles me that they can't even treat me with the respect they would a stranger.
Contested Will
There is a phrase that you can put in your will that disinherites anyone who contests the will in the event he dies first.. Sad you have to protect yourself like that, but you do.. People do and act all kinds of evil ways when inheritance is involved.. It wouldn't be necessary if the word "step" didn't precede your family title.. And they think that what is yours is their dads, you didn't earn that and really belongs to them.. Not True.. I'm having an attorney deal with the bio family if he goes first..
You only count if you do as they want
If you think something should be handle differently. Then you get it's not your place. You don't know, not a real parent.
must be a real bio parent to really know. But keep trying harder, the harder you try the cool aid is easier to drink
THIS!!!!!! - "Just shut your
THIS!!!!!! - "Just shut your mouth and sit in the corner nicely while my kids walk all over you is the mind set of what a Step Parent should be.."
My SD17 doesn't walk all over me but the sitting in the corner is my DH's mindset. My opinions and ideas do not matter to DH. In fact he prefers I have nothing to say or do with SD17 but yet he expects me to be happy the 10 days a month she is here under our roof.
Her prom was last weekend. Her cousin (DH's niece) and her husband came to see her with their baby. She says "Can we get a pcture with the whole family? (meaning the 3 of them SD, her date and DH) and handed me the camera. And then niece and nephew stayed 3 hours!!!! They ruined my Friday night I could have enjoyed alone with DH. Just now remembering how I felt last Friday s making me cry. And lucky me - Her graduation is next weekend. Another 2 days of feeling like a leeper!
This..
Graduation.. I remember being ignored and looked over for the other side of the family.. We got a hi, Thank You for the money and see you later bye.. There is tons of pictures taken, but non of DH family.. Someone mentioned I should be lucky they don't want to come around, they can't get their to leave.. Is there ever a happy medium?
Makes me sick
How disregarded and unimportant an evil SM is. Like we are below the delivery man's third cousin.
It all comes down to how DH reacts to the total disregard of his wife. Does he back you up? Shut down their piss poor behavior? Or does he cower in the corner then kisses their royal asses? Everyone is allowed an opinion, everyone has the right to not accept the SM. BUT dang if the SM disregards, dismisses, ignores the shitstorm skids SHE is the awful awful human.
I say give em what they think of you, espcially to the shitty adult skids.
I wish I was more like my
I wish I was more like my hubby.. He just rolls with it, almost like he is relieved they are not coming.. In the last 10 years they have been to 2 of the DH family gatherings.. A funeral and the distribution of the deceased assets.. I gave up trying to have family time just us/them and began to suggest one big gathering of DH close family who asks us about them often.. You know, so they get all of DH family out of the way all at once.. There's a bunch of them!!! It wouldn't have to be a regular holiday.. This family will pull out the BBQ and yard games for all ages.. DH doesn't want to hear about them any more.. He says he isn't going to fret over something he can't control and there are more important things that needs his attention at this point in his life.. They know where we are.. we are not hiding.. But the want to try with them is gone..
you are much further in than I am
And I often wonder what will happen for myself and husband. The way I see things happening - the skids will move on with their lives. Forget about dear old daddy cakes. Especially forget about evil Clove.
So I wonder about things like death, illness, disablement. The spouses in Husbands family dont treat us very well, and us spouses are civil not friendly or close with husbands family. I still need to get things such as power of attorney and wills figured out, and being in out mid 50's, that needs to happen sooner rather than later. I sense that although you are Done there is a measure of "righteous anger" coming through. Im guessing because youve kept a lot of emotion pent up and are just wanting to scream it out and cannot.
If your husband doesnt want you to facilitate things and has given up, well youve done all that you can do. Ive tried that as well and just get kicked in the face over and over. So Im truly done also. Its very sad when you watch your partner get shafted by his children. Theres a special sort of pain.
Future
We are thinking of the future too.. We have our wills, POA's and any special bequests that we want.. We have discussed that we only have each other to lean on in hard times.. And he has mentioned concern that if he goes before me, that things will be contested.. And he also said that he can't control that either.. Our attorney was very helpful in documenting our wishes without bias and will handle the affairs if he passes before me.. We plan like we are rich to see that each other is protected, when in reality there probably won't be much of an estate left.. My side of the family is so so small... My mom is still alive at 90 and I never had kids due to medical condition, so my planning was simple.. HD has two kids and several brothers who have family too.. Our attorney said we have everything to protect each other.. Its so sad we have to do that.. If it were the X wife, there would be no contesting.. But because we have that Step added to us, we are not entitled to that which we helped create.. We do not exist once again.. I already know I will be alone in the end.. It use to scare me, but the last couple of years I've kinda grown to accept it and thinking of plans for me alone..
Husband has a LARGE family
He has over 100 - brothers sisters, neices, nephews, grands, etc. Plus his two daughters Ive mentioned.
I have no children and my side is one brother and his two children and my parents.
Ive become more and more independent. And putting more time and energy into myself. Good that you have put things into place to protect yourself.
Is the BM really toxic? Did she alientate the children against their father?
I know very little about the
I know very little about the BM in my personal life.. Professionally she came across very narcissistic and full of herself, causing her to not get jobs she put bids on.. My manager ripped her attitude and sent her walking with $100.00 one time.. But her sister did get the bid instead and if she knew that, she would have words with her.. I saw her for the second time at the SS wedding a few years later.. The SS also presented a bill for some of the wedding still unpaid because the BM refused to pay her prearranged share.. Found out the Brides side didn't pay their share either.. Just the BH.. I've heard hearsay and seen pictures from 4th party conversations since about them or about what they say about BH and me (daughter of a friend of mine who is also friends with the Xwife friend daughter who heard it from the BM drama benge).. My perception of the BM family is very shallow and untrusting from my past experience with them.. And not interested in having a sit down personal meal with them either.. No thank you I'll pass..
Someone here (Hereiam?) added
Someone here (Hereiam?) added a clause that stipulated that anyone who contested the will would automatically be excluded from any inheritance. Would that be possible in yours?
Yes there is such a clause
Yes there is such a clause and yes I have it.. I also live in a community property state, so that helps too... But, if someone wants to file contesting, they will file no matter what.. It is so sad we have to go to such lengths to protect ourselves.. We have it for him too should a strange member of my family sitting out there that I've probably only saw at a funeral when I was kid 40 to 50 years ago.. I have family from my step father who may feel entitled.. These are the ones who only show up at funerals and you wonder who the hell is that..
Who said that you were
Who said that you were required morally OR legally, to be a door mat?
Why do you keep inviting them to events?
I totally understand your willingness to keep the peace. THAT only goes so far.
I tried...
I tried for years for my husband and his parents when they were still alive. "Just once a year" we asked that they stop and visit. But they always found excuses. DH mom would cry when they didn't show up. This had gone on for years, excuses about the Grandparent being mean, asking too many questions and so forth. Then it was about us, then it was about money and the mom would pay their way to go visit her, then it was about something else but always full of excuses that any more when they open their mouths you just expect lies. They always have other plans and never intended on coming by even when they tell us they are. That is called lying. 15+ years of lying. No excuses, a plan factual lie and no it isn't OK if it is a lil white lie. It is still a lie. I also found out by word of mouth from a neighbor of a friend that they were just a couple blocks from us and never came by, called or nothing. Just blocks away. Both the Grandparents are gone now. And hubby just doesn't want to hear about them any more. I know he is hurting and he said I just keep reminding him of them by attempting to include them. So, what the point in trying. I thought trying to include his kids would make him happy, but it did the opposite. I'm done, I'm disengaged with the whole mess for a couple of months now. No more buying holiday presents only to be donated to charity. No more special dishes fixed because I thought they were their favorite. We aren't hiding. We are in plan site along with the rest of my hubbies family should they decide to come around. Their choice, I'm not going to do anything. There is a motel 6 down the road and a Denny's in the same parking lot.