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Crystal7's picture

Hello, so I have 2 BD's. 20 and 9 year old. My 9 year olds father was abusive in more ways than one so I ended up getting full custody when she was 5. They both live with me full time. 20 year old goes to college full time, works 30 hours a week and helps out around the house. My husband has one son that is 12 and has 50/50 custody. Husband and SS moved in my house in 2020. 

SS wanted my youngest daughters room becasue it was bigger and he got it. It was so bad in the beginning before we were married that we werent even allowed to order pizza when his son wasnt here. It isnt that bad anymore but MIL still thinks we shouldnt do ANYTHING without him. Husband feels so much guilt in general already and his mom guilts him and tries to make him think he is being unfair to his son all the time. 

SS gets everything equal (as far as gifts, Christmas, any other holiday gifts, school clothes shopping, allowances for chores- even though he is here 50% of the time) to my kids along with stuff from his mom, his moms parents and Husbands mom. My MIL takes SS to vacations and doesnt invite my 9 year old. Husband felt bad and talked to his mom but she wouldnt change her mind. SS mom takes him on vacations multiple times a year and gets him the latest in everything tech and clothing wise. My 9 year old has never been on a plane and SS has been everywhere in the states. I really want to go on a vacation to the lake with just my kids like we used to every year but husband wont go without SS and I dont want to go with SS. SS treats me horrible tells MIL that I am evil and that he is neglected by his mother- like  his mother doesnt even make him dinner or do anything with him. SS is mean to my kids and he cries all the time to get what he wants.

The guilt I am now feeling is getting unbearable. I feel like I am not doing enough for my kids. Doesn't help that SS is always bragging that he gets two of everything and gets to go on vacations to warm places while we alll freeze. 

Thanks

ndc's picture

How do you and your husband manage your finances?  Assuming that you're fairly equal earners and you don't need him to survive, I'd separate finances, do for my own kids and not allow any of my money to be used for SS. If you want to take your kids to the lake, take them.  If your husband chooses not to go because SS isn't welcome, so be it.  If you want to order takeout for your kids when SS isn't around, or take your kids out to eat without SS, go right ahead.  Your kids, and your relationship with your kids, shouldn't suffer because your DH is a guilty divorced dad.

There's absolutely nothing you can do about your MIL or the BM buying or doing things for SS.  Not everything is going to be equal, nor does it need to be. They owe your kids nothing, and they can do what they want for SS.  I wouldn't waste my time worrying about that.  But you should feel free to do for your kids without worrying about SS.  

Crystal7's picture

You're right, we should separate out finances. I would love to plan a vacation but SS mom handles the summer schedule and I never know when we will have SS so planning something without him is almost impossible. 

The issue with the MIL is that she does more for her grandchild then my girls. My parents are always busy and don't have much free time but when they give gifts and offer to taek 9 year old to zoo they always do for SS. I have told parents that its not the same with MIL and they feel like its not right and still do all for SS the same as BIOgrandkids. 

I have read other responses on here that some families spend less on skids becasue they get from both sides but I don't know about that. I just wish he wasn't such a brat and he always brings the latest and greatest toys he gets from his mom and wont let anyone near his things. 

ndc's picture

Planning a vacation without SS is far from impossible. Pick your dates, make your plans. Let DH know the dates and that it's a SS-less vacation. It's then on him to either make himself available or not.  He can make an effort with BM to influence the summer dates (using reverse psychology if necessary), or he can stay home with SS. Maybe plan for two separate dates and cancel one once SS's visitation time is known. What does the CO say? Why does BM get to control the summer schedule?

Stop blaming BM and MIL. Your husband owns this. I don't see where he's doing anything to fix it. 

justmakingthebest's picture

So go without your husband too. 

I am going to try to choose my words here because I am a traditionally more "submissive" wife. I am old enough in my values that I see my husband as head of our household.

However, I was also a single mom for a long time and have experienced a lot and know my strength and worth. For a "submissive" wife to thrive, which is my husbands job to make sure that I can as head of our household, he is supposed to lift me up. Treat me with kindness and respect. Worry about my worries and help take care of my fears. 

Your husband is not being a leader to your family, he is being a dictator. I understand you wanting to make him happy but not at the cost of your children. The new kid in doesn't get dibs on any bedroom. You don't stop living your life because SS isn't there. I can see some things like, waiting until next weekend to see a movie as a family or going to a theme park, but it is still ok to do those things without him too!  Timing won't always work out, but that is why SS has 2 parents, so the other can pick up some of the slack.

It is time you take your home back. Plan this trip when you specifically know SS won't be there. Tell your husband you are doing a trip for your kids since they have not had one and SS has had several. If he doesn't want to come because SS won't be there, fine, he can stay home, but you are going with JUST your bios. 

Crystal7's picture

I know my husband cares a lot and wants to do the right thing. Its just he feels so much guilt and his mother makes him feel even more guilt. I have been on my own for so long I am used to being head of household but I also feel like we are making progress. I mean at first we could not order pizza without SS there. I finally had enough and said I am done not mattering to you, my kids and myself deserve to not be neglected when SS is not there. SS gets plenty with his mom and we just sit and not live life because SS is not there, hell no. 

I cant plan any trips without SS becasue SS mom makes summer schedule and we get no say. By the time I know the schedule everything is booked. I have mentioned something along the lines of planning somehting and DH is fine but said I would be a jerk if I was looking to plan something on purpose to not include SS. So that is why we havent been anywhere and I just feel awful for my biokids. 

SS is such a jerk to me and lies all the time. Is always saying his mom does nothing with him, doesnt make him dinner so he always has to fend for himself. MIL eats all this up and make DH so upset that his bioson is so neglected. SS cries when he needs to, swears under his breath at me when DH is not around. I just hate it. I feel like I just want to leave my house when he is there but I have no where to go. 

 

Rags's picture

Whether it is self induced or his idiot mother pushing it on him. He owns this. It is easily fixed.  He just has to actuall do it.

Maria10's picture

When my SS starts to act like that to try to get one over on DH I tell him straight out(he is 16 ) that kind of behavior does not fly iny house and that dad and I talk. My BS radar is strong. I have caught SS in several lies and DH has learned to not go against me when I smell BS.( Sure it's a risk  )

If unsure tell your husband and Ss that next time this neglect issue comes up you will be calling BM yourself to check. And that CPS can also be called. Your DH can also tell MiL she can feel free to call CPS of she feels he's such a shitty father ( but let's be honest do I think he'll do that? No)

In the mean time at your house dinner and dinnertime  will be decided by you and if DH wants to starve himself because SS isn't there, he can. The room allocation will also be decided by you and if SS does not want to stay oh well. How many children out there have to have a shared room. Life's not fair. In YOUR HOUSE you decide what's fair. 

 

AgedOut's picture

never feel guilty for wanting to do something special with your children. If your hubby won't do it w/out his son, leave them both at home and call it a "girls weekend" 

Stepdrama2020's picture

Just do with your bios and dont let DH and lil dictator SS make you feel bad.

I feel your pain that DH cannot do anything without SS there. Its ridiculous. He is only there 50% of the time and DH expects you and your kids to rot until lil prince bragger is there.  NFW

Start enjoying life with your bios WITHOUT any of them to ruin it. Hell if you want pizza order it, chinese go for it, Disney world go have a blast. Live your life.

Frankly your DH needs to downplay the guilt , SS is already a monster , it will only get worse.

Crystal7's picture

I agree, DH thinks his bioson is an angel though and MIL makes things worse. I just want to leave my house but damn its my house! I bought it bymyslef as a single mother and he took the biggest room. I had broke my leg and husband moved in to help around the house and told me that daughters room was slightly bigger than the other room and daughter is very eary going so she didnt mind moving rooms. I couldnt move around and measure so I took DH word for it and it turns out that it is a lot bigger like 50 sqft bigger, as you can tell I am still bitter about it. Also that SS has two rooms now with us and at his moms so why couldn't BD get the bigger room when SS has 2? 

Winterglow's picture

I can't get over the fact that a part-time resident demanded a full-time resident's room that she has had all of her life and actually got it! WHY? 

Crystal7's picture

Becasue my leg was broken and I couldnt move to actually measure the room so I asked DH to measure and he said they were basically the same size which is not true and DH is no idiot. I am the idiot here I guess. It would have never happened if I was mobile. but pissed at DH for lying to me to please brat SS.

Winterglow's picture

That in no way excuses the fact that your daughter was KICKED OUT OF HER BEDROOM! It doesn't matter about measurements she should never have been kicked out in the first place. This is your house and her home. SS gets what he gets. He isn't even there full-time, why does he take precedence over a full-time, long-term   inhabitant? Stop this craziness now! 

shellpell's picture

MOVE SS BACK INTO THE OTHER ROOM! This coddling and worship of SS needs to stop, otherwise I would kick all of them out if I were you. Go back to being a single mom, ordering pizza whenever you want and taking your kids on vacation whenever you want. I can't believe you can't go on vacation because of BM and SS. Don't do this to your kids.

Rags's picture

You are sacrificing your own children to your DH and the shallow and polluted gene pool progeny of his failed family breeding efforts.

smh

Your DH needs to grow some balls, put his mommy in her place, and keep a belt applied to his nasty spawn's ass any time it steps out of line.

As for what SS gets to do with MIL and his own mom, that has absolutely nothing to do with anything.  Quit being envious that it has privileges. It will be a nasty adult because it is a nasty child whose nasty crap is facilitated by your ball-less DH.  Guilt is a choice. Make a different choice.  This applies to your DH as well.

Of course you know what to do. Re-read your original post as if it is someone asking you what you would do... then do that.  IMMEDIATLY!!!

strugglingSM's picture

When I met my DH his mother (my MIL) would tell him what to do and he did it. She would often use guilt and manipulation. She would tell him that he needed to "entertain" SSs when they were with him, that he needed to take them on fancy trips, that he needed to buy them XYZ. She definitely feels bad for them and showers them in gifts (for example, she spent $400 on one of them for Christmas this year...she spent maybe $50 for my DD (her granddaughter)). DH would be annoyed by MIL, but I don't think he realized how abnormal it was for a mother to call the shots for her grown son. I, however, enlightened him...or maybe just empowered him to ignore and push back on her. She still tries to call the shots in our home, but we ignore her. DH has had it out over with her over a few egregious issues (involving MIL meddling with BM) and MIL was insistent that she was only looking out for SSs, accused DH of not loving them enough, and refused to apologize, even though DH specifically asked for an apology. She said that DH needed to go to counseling with her, so the counselor would tell him that he was wrong. DH has said to me, "I love my mom, but I know she won't change" and he now keeps her at arm's length. MIL now goes directly to SSs whenever she wants anything, she even includes them in any planning messages about holidays. We've given up. We see her very infrequently, which is unfortunate for her, because we now have a child of our own who she would like to see, even though she treats her like she's a second-class grandchild. 

In our case, it's all about power for MIL. MIL also has some narc tendencies, which makes it easy to see why DH was not pushed away by BM's narc / borderline behavior. She showed it early, too, because he lost friends who thought she was terrible. DH has essentially lost his family because they have decided he is a terrible person for getting divorced and have believed BM's lies that she is the victim. They don't see that they've lost him (even though he has told them that he has been hurt by what they did and feels as though they never support support him), because they just assume things will keep going the way they always have been with MIL bulldozing everyone, BIL as the golden child doing her bidding, and DH off as the scapegoat. 

Dealing with someone else's dysfunction is never fun or easy, but if your DH can't see the havoc his mother is wreaking on his home and his life, it will be difficult for you to change this situation. 

Elea's picture

I am big on things NOT always being equal and fair for my BK's. It's called life. IMO, comparing yourself to other's and keeping a tally is the thief of joy. My BK's all have a different role in the family. Things are not even close to equal as each has their own unique strengths, needs, and developmental level. As long as there is mutual respect and love, give without the expectation of anything in return.

BM is the opposite. She makes a huge deal about how her princesses have to have everything be perfectly equal, little petty checklists of everything with each other and with their Father, and of course if it were up to her, the princess would have far more than me and my BK's. (Meanwhile she is super lazy ... she needs copious amounts of "me" time and does whatever she wants whenever she wants it all the while telling DH that he's "on" with entertaining and caring for the step-diablas ...  In other words, not at all equal.)

She demands her princesses have equal alone time with parents, equal possessions, equal say to their parents, equal position to their parents, equal portions of salad, or whatever ... It's so stupid, dysfunctional and childish.

It seems those most insistant that everything be "equal" really have a chip on their shoulder and feel inferior. They need more to feed their need for constant validation that their position is secure. It's a primitaive, insecure, way of living.

My DH was so accustomed to BM's disfunction ... it took awhile for him to shed some of that ignorant mentality but he's a lot better about it now and not trying to keep everything "even steven." Now that SDiablias are grown he doesn't give a crap about BM's demands.

Maria10's picture

Time to put some boundaries in YOUR HOME!

A minor child in my home does not get to decide what and where and how we go/do /say children are at the whim of adults not the other way. Wether that child is BIO or not. ) Wether that child takes the form of a husband or not! Lol)

I have never heard of " BM handles the summer schedule" ever. But the BMs in my life cannot handle ANY schedule so maybe that's why?. IMO that's BS meant to manipulate you on DH behalf.

Your parents are wrong. Your kids in this situation should come first. They wouldn't tolerate SS behavior from a neighbor kid who hangs out at your house would they? Or from their neighbor who demands the best for their manipulative spoiled brat! Bless them for trying to make you a cohesive unit but they shouldn't be involved in SS life in the first place.

DH has manipulated you into giving SS your daughter's room? That is strike one! If I like you you get three lol.

I have dealt with an MIL such as what you have( I can't say worse because I don't know your MIL.. It culminated in me kicking her unannounced ass out while she was reading obituaries in my living room. Long story lol- yes I only laugh because she is far away in a different state)

The ace in the hole is that DH is in your house. Think about that....

Book that trip go without DH. Unless you are afraid to let DH and SS alone inside your house, in which case this needs to be an entirely different conversation.