Letting go of the old
I have a cottage vicariously through my husband and his family on a gorgeous lake and I am extremely fortunate to be able to vacation with my husband and his kids. When he and his wife split they made an agreement that would let her use the cottage for 5 weeks a year, 3 of which are in the summer...no problem as the children are usually the ones who suffer the most during a separation or divorce so of course this is the best choice.
I have no issues with this but there is one thing that is bothering me after 4 years of being up here...their carved in stone that is a bird washer at the same time is still in the garden. It has their names in it with a date...carved in clearly. It was probably a wedding gift and it mostly hides under plants for the summer but it has been here for the entire time I've been up here. It took me a lot to ask my partner to take down photos of the two of them together in the bedroom and there are still photos of her around the cottage(not with him thankfully) I appreciate that this was their place at one time but I also think that the "rock" carved in with their names is time for a replace. He may not even know that it is there but if I mention any of this I fear he will be upset with me as he reacted quite negatively when I asked him to remove the photo of the two of them on the bedside table right beside where we slept. What do I do?
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He didn't want to get rid of
He didn't want to get rid of a photo of her that was by your bed? What?
Yeah, the bird bath thing
Yeah, the bird bath thing wouldn't bother me.If it really does bother you just plant something like wisteria or ivy that will consume it and call it a day.
The fact that he had a problem with a picture of them on the night stand would REALLY bother me though. I think what I would do to take care of that is get a boudoir photo shoot done and put that picture on the night stand LOL
Exactly!? What?!?! That would
Exactly!? What?!?! That would be more offensive to me than the bird bath. Why in the hell would he want to leave that and have you and him sleep right next to it? That should have been moved before he even took you in the room! I get irritated when I look at the pic SD has in her room of DH and BM. It is her room though and her parents and I don't have to sleep next to it. His reaction to not wanting to remove the pic would have me wanting to remove myself from the relationship.
Being upset when being
Being upset when being confronted by something that makes us feel a negative feeling doesn't mean that we shouldn't be confronted by those things. Expressing that you're upset also isn't a necessarily a bad thing, so long as it's not being taken out on your partner.
What I'm saying is that anything related to his XW and kids will likely make him in an off mood because it's likely a sore subject. BUT, being a sore subject isn't a good enough reason to not bring up the topic, nor is it a good reason to take his frustration out on you (and if he does, he needs to apologize for it and take active steps to not do that again in the future).
Additionally, being silent about something that bothers you will kill your relationship. You'll end up resenting him, the place, the ex, the kids - everything. You can't be afraid to talk about these things. Part of dating is finding out if you're compatible, and not sharing things that are bothersome to you prevents you from being able to find out if you're compatible. If your fear is that he'll leave you, then you need to accept that this relationship may not be the right one. If you're fear is abuse from him, then we have something entirely different to talk about and how to get you out safely.
In short, these are going to be rough conversations to have, especially if he has never had to actually work through his divorce. However, him being upset isn't a good enough reason to discuss it. It bothers you. It's not something you want in a relationship. He has to decide if your wants are reasonable to him without taking out his own frustrations on you. He can be upset about it being brought to his attention, and he can feel how he wants to feel. But yelling at you, threatening your relationship, kicking you out - basically, throwing back all his frustration back on you to push you to not address it - isn't okay. If he does any of that, he either needs to apologize and actively work to communicate better and be a better partner by fixing himself or you need to find someone who can recognize that something stings but doesn't make it your fault that you need to fix or accept.
thank you. your words are
thank you. your words are very wise <3
I think that I would take a
I think that I would take a day and tidy up all the plants in the garden and accidentally knock the bird bath over. Pretend like you had no idea that there were names in it since as you said it is already covered by plants.
Breaking other people's
Breaking other people's things just because we don't like it is unacceptable, especially from an adult. It's not her property. Being in a relationship with her SO doesn't make it her property. Even if they were married, it's still not hers. Her choice is to talk to her SO about it and decide if the decision he makes about his property is acceptable. If it's not, she can leave.
I had honestly contemplated
I had honestly contemplated this but then my dh discovered I was upset about the rock and he "threw" it over the bank...well it didn't quite make it over the bank but let's just say his EW mentioned the darn thing the next day as if she knew I was upset and said she would take it back to the place where it originally came from lol. I mean I'm not upset about this but I'm also questioning why it took her 4 years to suggest that. Regardless...it's gone. It's dumb really. I was only upset it still remained after his sister had fixed the gardens and it clearly had moved from last year...but then again his sister was just sending photos of his wedding bottles of wine she found that were labelled with him and his ex wifes names. Likely my issue isn't with him, it's with his family...
How long were they married?
How long were they married? How old are the kids? Honestly, the fact that she uses the family cottage 5 weeks a year would bother me more than the bird bath. How is that "for the kids"? The kids can go up anytime with their father or their grandparents. What if you guys are married for 25 years and his wife of 5 years (or whatever) still visits the cottage 5 weeks a year?
Anyway, I guess there is nothing you can do about that. I'm not one to usually be bothered by pictures or other remembrances from a marriage, but it does seem odd that they have something commemorating their marriage at YOUR family cottage. Is there anything from your marriage up there? Or is this still "their" place? To me, the whole package (letting her be up there 5 weeks a year, her pictures around the place, the bird bath) all screams together that he hasn't let go.
If she's going to visiting 5 weeks a year, it should be more like she's visiting YOUR home, whereas now, it appears that you are visiting HER home. All of that together would bother me.
So speak up.
Couldn’t agree more^^^
Couldn’t agree more^^^
No picture of the ex
Would ever be in my bedroom or on display except in kids room. Birdbath gone, replace by something else
This cottage sounds like a
This cottage sounds like a shrine that is lost in time and needs to be brought up to date. I can't imagine having to share a home with the ex, but then I wouldn't want to even share air space with Meth Mouth.
I know, I'd forever be
I know, I'd forever be worried that BM had booby-trapped the toilets or put mice poop in all the condiments.
Lol yes I would be paranoid,
Lol yes I would be paranoid, but that's because my DH's ex is a wing nut who would do stuff like that.
I am guessing this is a
I am guessing this is a family cottage that your DH has part ownership in.. and that it is shared with others on "his" side of the family. I have to say that he was pretty darn generous to allow his EX to continue to use the cabin. Now, perhaps that is just as long as the kids are minors? and perhaps she also had friends in the area and the kids did and were used to spending their summers and breaks there.. and he is trying to perpetuate that for them... but if it is indefinite... past the time when his kids are of age.. that would be a bit uncomfortable for me.
You will have to explain with some context of how the discussion re that picture on the bedside happened. I mean, did you "attack" him verbally? or in some way that it would be more instinctive for him to be defensive? Is he a naturally defensive and "push back kind" so basically any request comes with similar response? Did he see any logic behind the fact that his current partner would not be thrilled to see pictures of him as a couple with his EX?
If he reacted out of line (which it sounds like).. you may have more problems than a bird bath. Why on earth does he feel the need to preserve the cabin as if it were still his "marital vacation home" with his EX.???
I mean, I get not wanting to be surrounded by mementos of his past life.. (stepkids are enough..haha).. but I probably wouldn't be overly concerned about the bird bath.. but might do some moving around so it isn't in a prominent area where I had to see it all the time.. I am assuming that the home is also shared with others in his family.. so you may be limited in some of the changes..
The only real issue may be is if this bird bath was made by some beloved family member who has passed on.. and for that reason.. reluctance to part with it may be high.. can it be changed in any way so the names are no longer part of it?
There is nothing normal about
There is nothing normal about this situation. Starting with your DH wanting to sleep with you while a picture of him and he ex was right there. Gross.
Personally, my first night in
Personally, my first night in that bed would have been my last if I was dating a guy who still had a picture of himself with his ex-wife on the bedside table.
I mean. Would you have even
I mean. Would you have even got in the bed to begin with???
Maybe, maybe not. :) Would
Maybe, maybe not. :) Would have said something about the picture right there and then, though.
I can in away understand how
I can in away understand how there could be something like this in a vacation home that isn't used by someone on a daily basis.. and the picture may have even been so part of the scenery for the guy so long he didn't even really "see" it. But if my SO pointed it out to me? like... "are you really comfortable sleeping in here with me while she watches.. hahaha?" I would be really quick to apologize and put it away for sure. get rid of it etc..