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SS is going to Arizona for Spring Break

justmakingthebest's picture

I have been doing a lot of chatting with SS14's 1/2 brother's stepmother. She and 1/2 brother's dad are Custodial parents. For ease I am just going to refer to 1/2 Brother as "A".

So I messaged A's SM this morning basically asking if she and A's dad would be OK with A sending SS14 a quick text along the lines of "Hey, what do you have going on for spring break?" - I told her my anxiety is through the roof, we leave the day after tomorrow and I still don't know what city I am driving to in Florida with DH and the other 3 kids. Are we going to the airport city or the port city? I know it is only like another hour away if we go to the airport city, but if we don't need to go there, we wont. I can also go ahead an cancel the excursions if we find out he has a trip with BM. 

She messaged back a few minutes later saying that SS told A he was flying out to Arizona with BM and his grandparents. They are leaving friday after school. So yeah, now we know for sure. DH is livid and wants to file the writ now. HOWEVER he wants to to be served after she leaves so that it can be considered out of state kidnapping and custodial interferance. Can't blame him, those would be awesome charges against BM! 

A's dad is calling DH this afternoon. He wants to help with our case. Court is going to be awesome next time we go. All 3 of BM's children's fathers are going to be there and sitting on our side as our character witnesses. 

 

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ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

Your BM has ZERO logic whatsoever. Most of them are at least smart enough to play nice for at least court time frame. Yet here she is. 5 seconds in and already taking the kid out of state during HIS time rather than abide by what the GAl has suggested... The stupidity of some of these women is really rather disgusting.

justmakingthebest's picture

Plus the fact that the current CO gives DH spring break. She is so freaking stupid.

I love dogs's picture

Call me a cynic but I'll bet she hardly gets so much as a slap on the wrist for this. Custody won't change over this.

justmakingthebest's picture

That is why we are trying to get the writ. She can have criminal charges and so can her parents if she or they interfere with SS being picked up to go to the airport. 

If we back down and just pout about it after the fact, the likelihood of there being any real repercussions is slim to none. 

*** The big thing stressing DH and I the F out though, is that neither one of us thinks that him coming is a good idea either. He will be a MONSTER on this trip at this point. However, letting BM get away with acting like this and thinking she is some how above this order is not ok either. Especially since the chances of us ever getting $$ back from her is a joke. She doesn't work and lives off of disability. ***

Ispofacto's picture

Please don't rule out the possibility that BM or SS lied about his plans that week.  It's quite possible they have no plans.

 

Monkeysee's picture

I was thinking the same thing. I’d err on the side of caution so you don’t get played. If everything gets cancelled then SS shows up it’d look horrible on your DH. I’d plan as if SS is going until the last second, then ensure she gets stuck with reimbursing everything you’ve lost. 

justmakingthebest's picture

That is possible, but SS completely idolizes his brother. He tries to mimick him in everyway from sports to clothes to hair. I don't see SS lying to his brother. 

It isn't impossible but unlikely. We aren't going to cancel anything yet. It will really come down to Friday night when the writ is served if SS is home. 

ksmom14's picture

so are y'all going through with the writ then? I thought y'all had decided recently to not actually go through with it, but rather use it as a scare tactic.

ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

This.

If they show they won't follow through on threats when she does what she wants anyways, then she's never going to believe they'll actually do something and ocntinue doing whatever the he!! she feels like. If you make a threat, even as a scare tactic, you have to be ready to follow through with it.

justmakingthebest's picture

DH thinks we have to do this now that BM has blatently booked him another trip for spring break. The GAL told her to send him to us, this is part of our current court order.

 

tog redux's picture

I think you absolutely should do the Writ of Assistance, I'm not sure why you decided not to - BUT, expect BM will not be home when they go. But at least you will know what to expect.

justmakingthebest's picture

We backed off from going through with it initally due to the fact that we know what an Azzhole SS will be if he is forced to leave the house by police. We don't know how he will act with MIL while she tries to get him to the airport. We don't know if he will miss a flight on purpose at the layover. Say something stupid to get us kicked off the ship when we get there.. etc. The list goes on and on.

It is this huge internal fight going on inside DH and I over - do we force this and deal with that or do we wait and file for contempt after the fact and probably not even be able to get the money back because "poor disabled and broke BM".

tog redux's picture

I don't know him, but I don't think he will be a jerk with the police, for sure. I actually don't think he will be a jerk with anyone, quite frankly, except maybe your DH and you.

Most alienated kids present as "normal" to other people, that's why alienation is so tricky to spot.  Teachers say he's fine in school, everyone else thinks he's a great kid - so the father must be doing something wrong that he hates him so much.

I think he will be a terrified kid when the police come to get him (if they were home, which I doubt they will be).

 

Willow2010's picture

  No way would I go through with the writ.  What if they are actually home and the writ is served and they MAKE SS go on the cruise.  YUK.  Makes me shudder to even think about.  That would be miserable. 

 I say leave it all alone until after the cruise and then nail BMs a$$ to the wall. 

TrueNorth77's picture

Wow. Unbelievable! And she obviously has no problem letting you both waste thousands of dollars on this kid.

justmakingthebest's picture

Oh yes, to her he is totally entitled and encourage to waste as much of DH's and my money as possible!!

ksmom14's picture

so what happens if they're not actually home and in another state, does it depend on what that state's laws are? Can the other state enforce the write?

ksmom14's picture

And what's the timeline again? 

SS is supposed to be on a plane to y'all what day/time? 

When do y'all leave for your cruise as in no going back to get SS at that point?

justmakingthebest's picture

I will definitely let yall know what happens! Our lawyer never called us back today, so we don't know what's happening with the Writ as of right now. We leave for our drive to Florida on Friday morning. SS flight is at 5:40 a.m. on Saturday morning. He's supposed to arrive in Florida at 11 a.m., and then we board our ship at 1:30 p.m. . I have a feeling that A's parent well let us know if SS is with him and the grandparents heading to Arizona on Friday.

shamds's picture

above the law. She makes the law and courts are where she spins her bullshit sob stories.. honestly nail her ass in court so reality hopefully kicks in that there are rules to follow