DH Holiday Blues
So, the holiday blues has finally lifted for my DH as one of my adult SD (the princess) has finally responded to his request for her to come to the holiday get together. The invitation goes out, she ignores him for a length of time, he turns melancholy (disposition and body language) and, frankly, nasty to me and then when her response comes, all is well in the world and I have my pleasant husband back (Literally, he lights up light the 4th of July). He absolutely cannot see that his entire happiness hinges on this one particular, disrespectful and passive-aggressive SD's acknowledgment of him and it, frankly, pisses me off because I'm left to deal with his mood swing. Why should I care and why can't I just ignore his ass-ishness for a few to many weeks? I don't know, but I'm hoping if we last another holiday season that the next one I can conquer this continual holiday moodiness absurdity without a fight and without getting down myself. Btw, this same cat and mouse game goes on throughout the year as well; it's just harder on me during the holidays for some reason. Thoughts?
I'm sorry you are dealing
I'm sorry you are dealing with this. I don't understand this obsession some of these men have with their offspring. I would be quite offended if my DH could not be happy with just me.
It's like she is his lover, instead of you. I don't get it.
If my DH pulled that crap, I would have to ramp up my own happiness (not sure how I would do that but I would think of something!) and ignore him. I mean, I get being upset that his daughter treats him like crap, but he has a life and a wife, and sacrificing happiness and joy with you is just not worth it. He needs to see that.
Luckily, my DH saw a long time ago that if his happiness hinged on his relationship with his daughter, he was screwed.
"It's like she is his lover,
"It's like she is his lover, instead of you. I don't get it." Hmmm...
My DH got all pissy a few
My DH got all pissy a few years ago about Christmas. I was hosting his 4 siblings and spouses for a pre Christmas dinner. He asked if he could invite his son and GF. He asked - I said no. None of the grown children were invited. Plus SS had been living as a homeless druggie drunk and every GF I’d ever met was a skank ho junkie. Dh’s Siblings are all lovely people who had not seen loser boy in a decade or more.
DH pouted for two days. I totally ignored him and went about my business. He got over it. Please ignore your dh’s mantrums and stupid attitude.
I am waiting for
I am waiting for a similar shoe to drop. I asked DH when he would like OSD to be here for Christmas and said that I was OK with 2 days. If he wanted more that was fine but I would be conveniently "visiting some friends." In other words, I would be getting a nice hotel room and having some blissful peace and quiet. He decided that he would prefer not to have her here at all. She has been truly awful recently and even he has had it with her genuine spoiled brat behavior. So we have decided on sending all presents out early and telling everyone that we are staying home for a quiet holiday alone. We are really looking forward to it. But he is famous for changing his mind when it comes to her and if she calls and offers to "come see us for Christmas" (in other words, come get showered with gifts and bring a cheap coffe mug for me and a t-shirt for him) he very well may suddenly inform me of her expected arrival. I already told him if that happens I will be in the car 5 minutes after the words leave his mouth. I hope he knows I am serious. I am not spending a second with that adult brat.
I really hope that your holiday goes smoothly. I suggest wine, eggnog, and extra bourbon on the side of the eggnog. And if all else fails, you can always indulge in the quaint Christmas tradition of "locking the stepchild in the basement."
Any thoughts re my initial
Any thoughts re my initial post?
He depends too much on
He depends too much on outside influence to find happiness. He needs to focus on internal way to find happiness. Look up locus of control.
and maybe I do, too.
and maybe I do, too.
Holidays just make it
Holidays just make it worse but this behavior is an extension of the ridiculous mooning and swooning that many of these Disney Dads do throughout the year. "Yea - my child is willing to acknowledge my existence. Oh..wait...nevermind....." (pout) The only change this time of the year is that different foods are served and the kid usually shows up at least for a minute to pick up presents. The chasing after them like papparazzi chases celebrities is as predictable as the other reindeer refusing to let poor Rudolph join in any reindeer games.
Thanks for coming back to put
Thanks for coming back to put it into perspective, Susan! And thanks for making me laugh just a little. :-D My husband's behavior with the pining and swooning is just gross. It's hard to respect him when he allows (asks for) himself to be manipulated and taken advantage of. If he could only see his behavior from outside of himself.
Glad I could make you laugh.
Glad I could make you laugh. I find picturing my husband as a golden retriever running frantically to the window at the sound of a car pulling up helps too.
"Reindeer games" that is
"Reindeer games" that is awesome! I think we all have a new term for Step-hell with adult skids during the holidays!
Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.
Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. I really needed this tonight! :-D Your suggestion reminds me of Marsha on The Brady Bunch being told to envion her driver's ed teacher wearing just underwear so she'd lighten up and be able to pass the driving test! :-D I'm actually going to take your advice. Wish I'd heard it earlier when my retriever was wagging his tail excitedly over something. Instead it gagged me.
My DH does that too. I refer
My DH does that too. I refer to it as being happy with crumbs from her table. He’ll call her, leave a message and then be in a bad mood until she calls back. When the phone rings, he’ll jump up, head somewhere private and come back like 5 mins later.
She doesn’t even talk to him. Just says “I don’t know.” “Is that all, I want to watch a movie.” But he’ll be all happy and loving after. She’s 11.
Exactly same scenario re the
Exactly same scenario re the one goddess not answering his texts or voicemails. Sulky and nasty for about a week and then starts to get over it. Holiday time is far worse, though. My husband's behavior really gets me down and mad at the same time. To watch him act like that causes me to lose respect for him. He'll adamantly deny that he even cares if she doesn't answer him and that I'm just imagining him being sulky. In fact, it's me that has a problem, not him. SMH
I find it interesting
It is interesting I see the same thing with my SD and father. She can be very mean but he would never address her and I can't. But our son he will dress down when ever and so will I but not her she answers for nothing it makes my blood boil or it did. I have told him I'm done with her being above anyone else I never mention her. Still he shouldn't treat His children different.
Thoughts: I'd try talking to
Thoughts: I'd try talking to my DH about it. If that doesn't work, suggest marriage counseling maybe. If that doesn't work and he is really a jerk to you, then make plans to leave.
When a spouse treats people who disrespect the other spouse far better, that is a problem. A problem in which no significant other should endure.
Reindeer games.....that is a good one.
Welcome to the Reindeer Games
I'm also childless and DH has one daughter SD32. Thank God he sees her bullshit, he blames her late mother.
It is all a game of cat and
It is all a game of cat and mouse, every single thing is just another opportunity-- if you are any part of this sickness. That is all it is, sickness, with zero cure for my daddeeee, at least. I just have to stay away from their mess, he gives me no choice, obviously. And, I am much happier!
Not skid related, however, my
Not skid related, however, my bride tends to get very melancholy over the holidays. We have not been particularly close to my IL clan though we have regularly visited with them and periodically spend some portion of the holidays with them. Regardless my wife struggles with missing them, missing them more and being sad immediately after a visit with them, and it gets worse when we are with my clan. She is extremely close with my family. But... a holiday never seems to go by that does not include some melancholy episode for my bride. This is a huge PITA for me. While I can generally completely compartmentalize this crap in my head I am sensitive to her moods and want her to be happy and enjoy the holidays.
Unfortunately 24 years and counting in to our marital adventure that is taking on the appearance of a forlorn hope.
This year I am particularly dreading due to the demise of my FIL in June of this year. Of course she is grieving, as am I, and that won't make it any better than usual.
Ughhhh.
The one potentially mitigating factor is that the kid will be home for Christmas and NY this year so he and I will do our usual tag team to keep her laughing and happy. Even that does not always work when it comes to her lamentations regarding her family and their usual stupid crap.
The relative success of my family juxtaposed to the nearly complete lack of success in her's is a big part of her ongoing holiday family issues. Even though she is a big part of our joint success and knows full good and well that her family has actively avoided making the same effort that she has it remains a durable issue for us over the holidays.
You chicks drive me nuckin futz!!!!!
Well, I hope your
Well, I hope your Thanksgiving was happier for your wife (and you) this year. It really is hard to compartmentalize as you say. I let my hubs' moods effect me. I always look forward to January! ;-)
This TG has been very low key
This TG has been very low key and has gone pretty well ...... so far.
I hope yours went well.
Glad to hear it. Yes, for
Glad to hear it. Yes, for the first time in years, it did go pleasantly.
My DH gets the holiday blues
My DH gets the holiday blues too. He is diagnosed with depression and anxiety, and the holidays just make it all worse. He misses the idyllic Christmases of his childhood, still seen through the eyes of a child.He wants to give his own kids that same epxerience every year but can't of course (they are all in their 30s). He is convinced he was a terrible father, on and on and on.
While I am sympathetic, there is absolutely nothing I can do about it except suggest to him that he make an appointment with his counselor. I go on about my business and enjoy holiday traditions. Would I rather do that WITH my husband? Yes, of course. But he won't participate because he knows it will bring him down, and I'm not going to force him to.
You can't fix this. Do understand that this has NOTHING to do with you--it is within himself. As much as you want to, you can't make it better for him--he has to want to do that and get help so he knows what to do. But you CAN take care of yourself and not let his holiday blues and melancholoy bring you down.
MissingMe! When your H acts
MissingMe! When your H acts like that because of his daughter don't entertain his pity party and let him know that once he's done acting pathetic he can join you and continue life happily because you don't have time or the patience for the BS. There's no reason why his mood swings should have to affect you. He can take that sh!t some place else and leave you out of it.
Hope next year and the holidays get better but please do not entertain it! He can wallow in misery by himself without you.
I agree
You don't owe it to DH to be an audience for his 'downer'. Ask yourself if he would be as understanding if you pouted every Holiday because certain people were not treating you nice. Bet the answer is no.
Siem, the horrible truth is
Siem, the horrible truth is that he doesn't even realize he's in the dumps and is like in another world. It bothers me because he doesn't converse with me like usual and it's lonely in a way. Yes, he's in the house with me, but he's "somewhere else" and it brings me down mentally and makes me mad and him and the skids at the same time. Without leaving him at the house (to eventually go find his skids to do something with because they would without me), I have to endure it. Can't tell you how many fights we've been in because I finally get enough of his absence and confront him about his blues aka depression. He gets angry and tells me it's in my own head. It.Is.Not. Anyway, it is what it is and probably always will be. Thanks for the input.