My DH thinks that we are all a bunch of crybabies with to much time on our hands
So I was responding to a post on my thread when DH comes out and sees that I'm on this site. He reads like the first line where I stated something along the lines of DH drives me crazy when and gets mad at me and tells me that all I'm doing is being a crybaby when I post stuff on this forum and that I pretty much need to find something to do with my spare time. Then he tells me that he doesn't want me posting on this site anymore to which he got the traditional, "um.....you can't tell me what I can do and what I can't do." Mentally I was thinking, "how about a nice hot glass of go f!ck yourself." Really?!? You think you get to tell me what I can and cannot do DH?
So here's what I need from you fine women and men. Please go back and read my previous blog entry and then post your stories of exactly what happens when you don't teach a child to listen to you. Please give examples of behaviors that were noticed before things got out of hand. I think that these behaviors should be treated in a manner that rectifys the situation immediately. Disrespect to any adult including not listening should not be tolerated.
If you go back even further though my blogs you'll get to see where SD is at bahavioral wise at age 7.
I appreciate everyone who shares their story with me in advance.
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Oh-yeah, and don't forget to
Oh-yeah, and don't forget to post about how things are now and how these skids act towards any adult figure.
fdh kept his head in the sand
fdh kept his head in the sand with sd's constant disgusting remarks that were "just jokes". he allowed her to skip school at least one day a week because she was "sick" and "schools don't like it when you send kids in sick". he never gave her consequences for bad behavior. he was too lazy to deal with it. he blamed all of her bad behavior on bm. he thought it was ok for her to not thank people for things at 16 years old. i could go on and on.
she is now 19, has changed what she's going to school for at least 3 times, she can't hold a job other than in the office at her school because she is incapable of learning new skills, (like how to operate a f'g cash register), she is knocked up on purpose even though she bitches about how broke she and her bf are and they couldn't even handle taking care of a cat. :O
she thinks that she can treat people like shit (me) and expect them to adore her and do things for her and be there for her and if they don't, they are pieces of trash. her exbf who she had her head up his ass all the time and acted like she would die if she couldn't see him EVERY SINGLE DAY, she will now say he treated her like shit and was so awful. he wasn't. she even got shitty with his mom a few months ago, telling her "Your son treated me like shit!" no, he didn't. to her, not being her slave and at her beck and call means you have done her a very serious wrong and should be condemned to hell for it.
when you allow kids to think they rule the world, they turn into adults that no one wants to be around. are you listening mr. unhappy? you know that annoying neighbor or asshole friend of a friend? that's an adult who had a parent like YOU.
My ss14 has been allowed to
My ss14 has been allowed to skate by with no consequences. So now he is a pot smoking underachiever whom no one including both of his parents can tolerate! The writing was on the wall years ago with his general disrespect and attitude, but everyone felt o sorry for the poor ill boy of divorce that they never held him accountable. He's had a couple of brushes with the law- for cultivating marijuana and dealing amphetamines. Sadly our juvenile justice system has turned a blind eye and has not wanted to prosecute since these are serious felonies and he is so young.
I'm going to have a crybaby
I'm going to have a crybaby moment here but regardless of what I tell him about his kids he never listens. It takes his BD embarassig the sh!t out of him less than a month ago in front of his parents and them telling both him and me that she's out of control and we need to fix her bahavior fast before he finally went to the extreme even though I've been telling him this for over a year. It just really blows my mind. And then he compares her behavior to his when he was kid. Um........apprently you weren't as bad as her because your mother is coming to me telling me she thinks that she's out of control. It just blows my mind. I'm half tempted to just completely disengage and he can raise his kids to his liking. Seems to be going good so far right? Yeah.....not so much. Let me give you some examples of some of the behavior I have witnessed with his daughter over the last six months:
1.) Telling DH that she has bad thoughts about stabbing us with a knife while we are dancing naked in the living room. (Just doing it to get attention. But what 7 year old says that.)
2.) Letting another little neighbor girl touch her on her privates and then touching her back.
3.) Being completely disrespectful to her grandmother, grandfather, and great grandmother.
4.) Prancing around the kitchen at her grandmother's house with her shirt tied in the back using a hair thing shaking her butt back and forth and asking DH's mother and I if we think that she's sexy.
5.) Making up lies about me to try and get DH and I to fight.
6.) Getting in trouble at school because she won't listen to the teacher or the duties.
7.) Kicking another little girl at school after she stomped all over her jacket and then kicked her backpack.
8.) Intentionally trying to get my BD sick with strep.
9.) Invading other peoples space when she knows she is not supposed to do so.
10.) Anybody she "forgets" that she is not supposed to put her hands on accidentallu get hurts pretty much everytime.
I'll stop there but I can assure you that this list can go on and on.
Guess what DH? It drives me crazy when you never listen to me and things have to get so out of hand before you finally take the necessary steps to resolve the issue. And it pisses me off that I can tell you something over and over again and you won't listen but heaven forbid your mother is disappointed in her grand daughter for the same behavior that I have been trying to tell you about for over a year. You'd better do something to fix it now that she's said something and brought it to your attention.
Number one on that list he's
Number one on that list he's so embarassed about he won't even tell his parents about it. Why is that? I'm not sure
Here's the thing. He tells
Here's the thing. He tells them no. He just doesn't see how these little kid behaviors get out of hand if not addressed when they first start. I've asked him before, when is it the right age to parent? 5, 6, 7? When they're so out of control that your family is embarassed. And I'm not talking about basic parenting. I'm talking about doing what it takes to fix certain behaviors that undesired by the world tha tcould have been fixed had they just been taken care of when they first started to appear in earlier childhood.
You should have heard his excuse tonight of why it's so much harder to punish SS. It's because his the youngest and that makes it harder because he's the littlest of all of the kids. Really? So you don't correct bad behavior or you let it slide because he's little and then address it when he gets bigger and hope it changes? That's just nuts. It's just a cop out because SS is his favorite. And we're planning on having a child together. Um......no. Not if you're going to let bad behavior slide because our baby will be the littlest. I don't raise my kids that way and I don't come up with BS excuses of why I'm failing a a very crucial part of parenting.
Oh yes, that is my OH too,
Oh yes, that is my OH too, "but he's just a kid! He doesn't know any better!"
No, and he never fucking will if no-one BOTHERS to teach him.
(or her - just using "him" as that's what my problem skid is) (and 'scuse language!)
Man up OH. (yours and mine!) Be a parent to your kid, your job is to give them the tools they need while they are children so that they can learn to be decent adults!
No point waiting til they are 18 and expecting the magic fairy to wave her wand over your kid and they will suddenly know what normal, acceptable behaviour is.
Preach on luchay. Preach on.
Preach on luchay. Preach on. But why bother when you can do nothing and then turn around and blame it on somebody else.
I'm sorry what? Am I taking
I'm sorry what? Am I taking that the wrong way? :jawdrop:
No you took it right. I was
No you took it right. I was just telling you to preach on sista. LOL
Oh ok, must be a cultural
Oh ok, must be a cultural thing LOL - here in Aus that would kinda be an insult LOL Am really hoping that it wasn't :O
Yes, see here in Aus to be
Yes, see here in Aus to be told you are preaching is not good!! LOL
I did go back and read my comment to see what caused offence!
Love Sheldon, he is just the best character ever written, must be so much fun to play him.
Feel better now
my gramma yelled those same
my gramma yelled those same excuses at me when bd17 was about 4 and was staring at a handicapped man and asked me why he was walking the way he was. i told her not to stare because it hurts people's feelings. that is when my gramma jumped in, before i could even finish talking to bd about it, and yelled at me that bd didn't know any better. i told her i KNOW she doesn't know any better, that is why i'm teaching her better! i asked if i'm supposed to just say nothing so that she will grow up into an adult that "doesn't know any better" and makes inappropriate, hurtful remarks. of course my gramma just got pissed off at me and i was wrong no matter what. (eye roll)
Don't get me wrong. Having
Don't get me wrong. Having fun with your kids is important but our main role is raising them to be adults. SS's future boss is not going to care that he's the youngest. If you can listen and folloe direction then that person will find someone who can. But what do I know. I just need to suck it up and drive on and when the kids are completely out of control when they are teens then we can blame it on the BM. Sounds good right. The sad thing is he's not doing anyone of us any favors with his ,"he's the youngest," mindset. Guess what? He's always going to be the youngest. That will never change. So what now DH?
he told u ur a cry baby?
:jawdrop: he told u ur a cry baby? thats when a sock would be goin up his nostril in my house... that or id be throwing my 10 pound cat on him at a very opportune time. preferably when hes sleeping.
Yep. He pretty much called me
Yep. He pretty much called me a cry baby phoenixgem89. And now he's sitting out in the living room while I'm in the bedroom probably thinking about how justified he is and how horrible I am. He actaully tried to make a comment about my BD's behavior tonight about how she yells at him. (We hardly have any trouble with her.) And I flat out told him that I have never seen her yell at him other then when he messes with her until she's either going to cry or scream at him. He thinks that pushing her to that point is funny. And yes it's stupid stuff like telling her his going to buy her some girly outfit (she's a tom boy) but he keeps at it when he knows she's getting mad because it makes him smile. I've had to jump in several times and tell him to leave her alone but if I leave the room he just starts on her again. And then he has the balls to bring that up. He's grasping at straws for an excuse.
I have watched his son scream at him and call (yell it at him) him names on numerous occasions just because he asked him to do something that he doesn't want to do or he got in trouble for doing something that he wasn't supposed to do and then turn around and stomp off and not even get in trouble for it. When I brought that up this evening is when he brought up that BS about my daughter as his counter to that.
It's interesting he thinks
It's interesting he thinks verbally pushing at a young girl is amusing, and he even starts again when you leave the room. I have to wonder what is lacking in his self-worth that compels him to do this. Maybe he'd like to try doing this to my husband? Or another adult male? See what he's made of. I would find it incredibly amusing.
You think that's bad. You
You think that's bad. You should see him with his own daughter not evening messing with her but when she has him so p!ssed off because of her behavior. I have watched him flat out tell his daughter that she is fucked up and and yell at her in an Alberston's parking lot. What's wrong with you!!!! The what's wrong with you wouldn't have been that bad if the, "your fucked up," didn't come out first. Want to talk about embarassing. I wanted to grab his daughter by the hand and yell you're fucked up and what the hell is wrong with you back. You don't speak to a 7 year old child that way. Especailly your daughter.
You see that's where his problem lies. He lets bad behavior go unoticed and unaddressed and then it's the kids fault. It's fucked up. Not mention emotionally abusive, which was the exact thought going through my mind. You raised her to be this way by not parenting and then you call her fucked up at seven.
Being someone who was emotionally abused by my father, this hasn't sat right with me since I witnessed it and I'm pretty upset with myself for watching that and not doing anything about it. I just shut down when people start to yell. It's almost like a reflex.
dude.... im not a very
dude.... im not a very 'passive' person but if someone was screwing with my kids like that (or even their own!) my foot would be so far up their back end it wouldnt be funny! thats just so freaking wrong on so many levels. seems to me as though he gets off on making others feel bad and feeds off of that b/c he cant justify himself... thats just sad.... but yes, boot + ass = :3
he sounds like he's
he sounds like he's intellectually about 12 years old. and it is apparent that he likes to keep the attention on you because he isn't strong enough to admit that he screwed his kids up. typical behavior to turn it around on someone who had nothing to do with it.
Ah, at 7-8 skid DEMANDED when
Ah, at 7-8 skid DEMANDED when DH would take her back to BMs...he would just do it instead of telling her that it was NOT her decision. Until about 9 or so, he just wanted to be nice...even when she did something wrong, he would "talk to her" and that was it. Never any real consequences. By 12 she was out of control and his wanting to discuss issues was met with "f#$%$5 you". She's now 17, a high school dropout, has an almost 2yr old and a 3 month old...I guess maybe he should've put his foot down instead of trying to talk to her so much.
PS - I agree with Mazzy on this...I know that I tried to tell DH and he just didn't listen...so I stopped...But now he knows better than to even mention his kid because he knows the first words out of my mouth are "I told you so". I also told him way back when she was 7-8-9 that she was going to be a nightmare come 14-15 and that I would of course later be the one laughing and saying "I told you so". Guess what? I am. Glad I let him parent her the way he thought...hehe...Now I just sit back and smile.
PS - he does every once in a while still try to say something like "the school counselor told me that she was very smart"...to which I reply..."ah, yes, so darn smart that she dropped out of high school and got herself pregnant, not once but twice and the baby daddy is some loser that at age 19 has already been in trouble with the law a few times...that's one smart girl"
Ah, at 7-8 skid DEMANDED when
Ah, at 7-8 skid DEMANDED when DH would take her back to BMs...he would just do it instead of telling her that it was NOT her decision. Until about 9 or so, he just wanted to be nice...even when she did something wrong, he would "talk to her" and that was it. Never any real consequences. By 12 she was out of control and his wanting to discuss issues was met with "f#$%$5 you". She's now 17, a high school dropout, has an almost 2yr old and a 3 month old...I guess maybe he should've put his foot down instead of trying to talk to her so much.
Yes to this! My SO took next week off work, we've made plans to have the skids here as well, take them all out for day trips etc, we told the BM, she is pleased.
Now he is saying well, they might not want to stay the whole time, and we will play it by ear what days they are here etc etc etc.
FUCK that. I need to plan meals, days out, schedule my bio's as well. Just tell the little buggers they are here from Tues to the following Sunday and THAT IS HOW IT IS. NOT ROCKET FUCKING SCIENCE.
(sorry, am actally in the middle of a text debate with OH about this right now. I need to go the supermarket, his kids are picky and I have no idea!)
Unhappy,one of your posts
Unhappy,one of your posts caught my attention. If you have a child together, I guarantee you your DH won't be easy on him or her because "they're the youngest". Take it from me, the guilty/head up the rectum parenting DOESN'T translate to the bios. :?
I did a lot of thinking last
I did a lot of thinking last night and the conclusion that I came up with is to just disengage. I want no part of how his lack of parenting is going to mess his kids up. He tried to apologize this morning by telling me he was grumpy last night but I wasn't having it. He also tried to tell me that he does everything that I ask of him which I called BS on. Who was the one who finally got sick of SS's lack of listening and respect yesterday morning and enforced a punichment? Well that would be me. Who was the one who jumped and told DH you already asked him. You shouldn't have to keep on asking or yell at him to get him to listem? Oh, well, that was me again. Who has been the one who has told DH that there is something wrong with his BD and that he shouldn't let her treat him so disrespectfully and to not argue with because she is 7!!! Me again. No it takes her being completely out of control and disrespectful to his entire family and then he wants to do something about it.
I'm just f!ucking sick of it. If he wants his kids to out of control little power hungry little kids. That's fine. He can also do their laundry, makes their beds, clean their rooms, clean their bathroom when they are here with us every other week, and every thing else that goes with cleaning up after them and guess what I'll do? I'll keep my mouth shut and won't point out potential behavior that can get realy bad when they are teens. I think that I would be a lot happier and quite frankly I really don't care at this point what he thinks. I will not go through my marriage with someone who refuses to notice and rectify bad behavior. I'm tiered of his excuse after excuse of why it's so hard to punish. No more. I may not be able to get him to listen to me about his kids but I can remove myself from the situation and watch him crach and burn.
yep! i stopped doing anything
yep! i stopped doing anything for my ss (13) and have made him do his own stuff. he was digging thru his laundry for 3 weeks and got into my car, i told him hes not allowed in my car anymore if i smell him. its 3 days after this incident in my car and my poor vue STILL smells! >.< and my SO wont make this kid shower or do his laundry, so i told him that he is not coming out of his room until he puts on clean clothing and he will not be using my car for anything if this kid stinks.
but yeah, dis engaging should work b/c he will see exactly what you do do for him and his monsters. its taught mine real quick and i refuse to do squat! i still do my stuff around the house, i do the normal house hold stuff, and i refuse to pick up after this kid, so its pissing him off. its funny! }:)
I'll do what needs to be done
I'll do what needs to be done for the kids but no more than that. I'll make sure that when they're in school that I get them up, get them fed, and get them to school on time. But that pretty much it. I'll take no part in raising out of control little kids and then banging my head up against a wall trying to get DH to see that their's a problem.
I told him for over a year that his BD need to some professional help. Didn't listen, didn't listen, didn't listen. Well guess what. She's getting help now. It only took her telling her father she has bad thoughts about stabbing the both of us while we're dancing naked in the living room. And that's how progress is made in our happy little home. Ignore, ignore, ignore and then oh sh!t. I wonder how these kids are going to turn out. Any guesses?
...nice thought... but yeah,
:jawdrop: ...nice thought... but yeah, im in the same position, but this kid is MORE than old enough to pick up after himself. everyone has babied the crap outa him and i refuse to do it. been doing it their way for 2 yrs now, so screw it. their gna do it my way or themselves. i refuse to take part in this kid's failure to grow up when its time to.
but yes... the pro help is needed if shes saying things like that... that is a big fat 'OH S**T' moment as my aunt calls it. and if he keeps going the way hes going raising em, i say jail is a possible place theyll end up... no regard for you, for the rules you set down in your house, nothing like that. you are the boss and they dont see that. its my problem here with my skid up until i put my foot down for the final time and took everything i gave him away. doesnt seem to be working but atleast i feel better.
It won't be good. SS33 has
It won't be good. SS33 has his shit together finally but it took FOREVER. Years wasted because of ignoring/lack of follow up in his childhood.
"he's/she's just a kid and
"he's/she's just a kid and doesn't know any better" .... Of course that statement applies on amy kid issue at least initially. The only answer when an SO/Parent uses this sentense "and it is YOUR/OUR job to teach them to know better".
Being a child does not pardon bad behavior and it is the parent's (Bio or Step) joint responsibility to train the child and hold the child accountable for their behavior once the child has been instructed/trained on that behavior. If the child continues the bad/unacceptable behavior beyond the point of age appropriateness then this becomes a failure of the parent.
eg... Pooping the drawers! Children with medical/physical/psychological problems not withstanding, a 0-2.5yo pooping in their pants is not desired behavior but that is what 0-2.5yo kids do. For the purposes of reality as far as kid pant craping behavior let's recognize a 1yr grace period and say that a 2.5-3.5yo may continue to load their drawers depending on the specific diaper loader (child). A 3.5+yo pooping their pants is not only not a desired behavior, it is an unacceptable behavior and should have parentally applied consequences for the child.
If the kid keeps shitting their Dora the Exporer underwear after age ~2.5-~3.5 then the parent can't bitch because it is the parent's fault.
In my layman's opinion of course.