OMG...SD16 is obssessive, more than I could of ever imagined....
So had date night last night with DH, it was nice, could of been better.
Well DH and I packed for today, then had dinner, than as soon as he sat feel asleep....So The date was OK but could of been better.
Well while we were packing DH told me that a friend sent him a funny joke this morning and told me to check it out in his phone. OK....So I go to his phone and start looking for this guys joke....and what do I see 20 texts from SD today alone that said....Love you daddy, miss you daddy, cant wait to see you daddy, love you, I love you, miss you...OMG!!!!! There were like 20...so DH says did you find it? I say not yet have to go through SD's texts, he says yah she texts me alot...Im like YOU THINK!!!!! OMG DH this is not normal, this is concerning.....He says no it isnt she is just lonely, and going through a stage it is fine...AHHHHHH WHAT???? :jawdrop: A stage I am sorry my children and I are very close, espicially my oldest and I but never and I mean never has he sent me 20 texts in a day how he loves me and misses me and cant wait to see me....I mean...Is this me people, am I the one that thinks this is obessessive behavior and a major problem?
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OMG, she treats him like a
OMG, she treats him like a high school boyfriend.
Seriously there is a problem
Seriously there is a problem here. He is clueless.
I like to think that I'm
I like to think that I'm close to my DH, but I don't text him more than once a day. Most days we don't get a phone call or text in during our work day. We say goodbye in the morning & hello again in the evening, & we function really well.
It's not a stage. It's obsessive & possessive & he's in denial.
She needs to find something to occupy her time.
That is NOT "normal" and it
That is NOT "normal" and it doesnt matter how lonely she is!
I am going to be honest and say at around sd16's age I had very few real friends, mostly down to the fact I couldnt really relate to them. Girls of that age tend to be bitchy, immature ...and while I wasnt an angel I have always been quite emotionally mature, so struggled with that and the fact that all my friends lived 25-50 miles away from me (as I went to High school out of my district). So I can understand your sd's loneliness and the fact she is struggling with some things. I was close to my mother and spent much of my spare time with her, that is how it was for me. That said, my mother always always encouraged and supported my friendships, she was loving and firm when necessary. She understood my feelings but she tried to help me, rather than nuture any insecurities or anxieties I was experiencing.
Your DH is happy to pretend this is "just a stage.." but how will sd move on from this "stage" if DH doesnt address it and HELP her?!!
I feel sorry for your sd, I really do. Her parents are blind and too busy prioritising their own hinds to consider the hard path they may need to take to help sd, and in turn your marriage.
I completely understand your own feelings towards sd and the situation, I would too in your shoes but my hand would itch to smack my DH across the face for the damage he is doing to everyone. What an idiot.
Trouble is, the more things get ignored, swept under the carpet right under your nose, the more respect you lose for them!
"Your DH is happy to pretend
"Your DH is happy to pretend this is "just a stage.." but how will sd move on from this "stage" if DH doesnt address it and HELP her?!!"
THis!!! So many parents think that if their child is going through a "phase" it is fine. Children don't get through PHASES without someone letting them know it is unacceptable. Its like saying a 3 year old sticking his hands in every cake he sees is "normal 3 year old behavior and he'll grow out of it". Yes, it is normal for a 3 year old to stick their fingers in cake, but NO they will not "grow out of it". They don't know it is wrong unless someone tells them it is.
Your SD refuses to accept that her behavior is not normal because her father isn't giving her any reason to believe that it isn't nromal. He is accepting it and, in my opinion, encouraging it. It isn't a phase unless progress is being made. There is no progress.
Right....This is crazy
Right....This is crazy shit....I just looked at the texts like WTF??????
I dont even text DH that many times...Seriously!!!
Actually I hardely ever text
Actually I hardely ever text DH...We are kinda goodbye in morning maybe a text or call at lunch, if that, then a hello after work....MY GOD!!!
THIS - her therapist needs to
THIS - her therapist needs to be told and shown.
I guess it strokes his ego.
I guess it strokes his ego. And that my friends is really what this is all about!!
Seriously, the hanging on the daddddddyyyyy's, the texts, the continuous need for constant attention.
If you were getting something out of this, you'd shut down the behavior immediately. I will say that on some level his daughter's behavior is a huge flattery to his wilting ego.
Well, baby girl needs to grow up and focus on what other 16 year old girls focus on ....school and boys and the mall!!! If she's sending him 20 texts by dinner then I think there is a definite issue and how can she have time to be doing things that a normal teen does?
Daisy, I just keep praying that this isn't me in 3 more years. sd12 almost 13 is clingy mostly only when she is at the our house. Other than that she really doesn't have much to do with her dad...unless she wants something.
I keep telling myself that after sd12 graduates high school.. things will be better. We plan to move out of state.
When I read these posts, it just makes me feel that my plans are going to suck it in the end!!
I don't know how you keep a straight face when he's telling you this crap!! Just a stage.. yeh, when they are 2, it's a stage!! Not 16!
How he can't see how twisted this is, is just beyond me!!
It's funny that all she
It's funny that all she wanted was to get him alone with her and you out of the picture.
You have arranged this for a while for things to get better and she is still doing all the weird texting?
It is not normal. 16 year old girls do not feel that much affection for their daddys! Gross!
Kinda funny that DH sent you to look through his phone for a "funny joke"...obviously he wanted you to see these texts.
Watch out, because next it will be how badly they have to move back because of all her ailments...like this obsessive texting...
"Kinda funny that DH sent you
"Kinda funny that DH sent you to look through his phone for a "funny joke"...obviously he wanted you to see these texts."
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That struck me too. Really...the fact that her obsession & need for his attention are a key issue in the reasons you're separated should've triggered something in him. He shouldn't have put her BS in your face. If there was a funny joke hidden amongst her plethora of love-texts he should've taken the time to locate it & show it to you rather than flood you with her drivel as you goosechase after a "funny joke".
Even if he wanted to argue that it wasn't intentional, there is no question it was in poor taste & very disrespectful.
Its weird right? I mean
Its weird right? I mean WTF...I was kinda grossed out by the whole thing!!!
and all DH could say is it is
and all DH could say is it is a phase and she has issues...Yahhhh alot more issues than you even know!
Some people just have no
Some people just have no boundaries. It is weird and creepy. I've never ever told my dad I loved him and missed him that many times. My dd's dont tell their dad that-even when they were away from him for extended amounts of time. Even if the girl had a boyfriend, or best friend-it would be inappropriate to text i miss you, i love you messages that often.
I agree with the others-that this should be an opportunity for your dh to teach her a life lesson. She smothers people-she will alienate all the people in her life if she smothers them like she does him. By not telling her it's too much, he is making her think this is how you relate to people and it's normal.
It would also be good for him to teach her how to amuse herself and well, um, get a life. Instead of texting him 20 times she could be doing so many other productive things-working, studying, reading, cleaning, making new friends-whatever. If my kids texted me like that-I'd tell them to cut it out.
RIGHT!!!! So would I...My
RIGHT!!!! So would I...My boys and I are very close but NEVER have I recieved...miss you, cant wait you see shit......WEIRD!!!
Oh watch were leaving tonight...Granatteeeeee texts, calls, oh yahhh cant wait!!!!
My friend said if SD starts she is saying something like...this is not normal
THIS IS NOT NORMAL. I DO
THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
I DO believe this falls under what is called "father-daughter emotional incest"
Please google it - I've realized that a lot of problems I see her on ST with father-daughters
clingy grossness have to do with this.
check it out, it's enlightening
When I was 5 I wanted to
When I was 5 I wanted to marry my Daddy because he was the only man in the world who would take care of me (in my 5 yr old brain). By the time I was 7 I had grown out of that stage. Obviously SD hasn't.
He needs to wean her off him and replace her admiration for him with someone else. If he sees this as a 'stage' then the 'stage' sets the scene for the rest of his life. One day she will be 35 and STILL living with him. One day he will be dead and her world will crash and burn in a dreadfully inhealthy way. She could whack out into a psychotic state and stay there for the rest of her life. I know of a man who had a complete breakdown when his wife passed away (he was in his 40s and perfectly normal beforehand) and lives in assisted living now and had to give up his law practice because the emotional traume of his wife dying (medical reason not homocide or accident) was more than his brain could tolerate. He was catatonic for 2 yrs!
DH is emotionally crippling her byy allowing this to continue. How selfish can he be? He should delete the texts and tell her her phone will be suspended between x-y o'clock if she cannot use it appropriately.
I think she knows no difference. She thinks she is special and this is very normal because her father has never said otherwise. He blows up at her on occaision but then he reverts back to his weirdo co-dependent relationship
Unfortunately, I think his
Unfortunately, I think his reaction to these texts tells you a great deal. That he still doesn't get it, that this girl has a problem. I think that's the most important thing you should be thinking about right now. I'm curious, what did his texts back to HER say? How many times did he respond to her texts and were they as 'unappropriate' as her texts to him were?
Daisy, I have to ask... are
Daisy, I have to ask... are you with him because you love him or are you with him because you just can't handle being divorced again?
He doesn't treat you well, he goes out of his way to hurt you. He is emotionally crippling his kid and seems to be trying very hard to do the same to you. Why are you accepting this?
Do you have a therapist? I think you should find one and talk about these things and see what they have to say.
Daisy...hang in there...you
Daisy...hang in there...you are on the road to right!
None of us know you, but this sitution makes us all want to stand behind "our girl Daisy"...only because we know most of this crazy shit first hand ourselves.
I really agree with this though...most DHs will do anyting to try and make us look crazy or jealous and that stuff pisses me off.
I think that DH is trying a new ploy to get back home. I mean really, if his mom is so bad...why doesn't he go get his own apartment seeing that this separation has no expiration date, thus far?
See when he told me to check
See when he told me to check out the joke...seriously he doesnt think there is an issue. he tells me he is all SD has and that is why she is the way she is. He thought nothing of me seeing those texts. Mostly because he does not think there are a big deal at all.
And I am with my DH because I love him. If i didnt believe me BYE!!!!
I don't know which is worse,
I don't know which is worse, that she texts him 20 times a day or that DH really doesn't think her behavior is a big deal. It doesn't seem like there is much hope of her getting better at this point.
Daisy, how does he respond to
Daisy, how does he respond to the texts? Does he respond to each and every text? If so he is enabling her to act like a fool... making her think "oh Daddy likes it" gag me..
Just like my DH used to do when someone would ask SD to come over, he would say "oh i dont know if i can stand to be away from her that longggg..." (thinking he was being all sweet and stuff) but really he was hindering her. Because of that she would never want to go. He didnt realize it untill i told him! It took years to fix that mess ughh! What your DH needs to realize (especially if he is playing along with her) is that hes teaching her that "oh daddy NEEDS me and oh poor Daddy will just die if i dont text him and tell him i miss him" etc.. its making her distubingly worse than she already is! :jawdrop: He is SOOOO the majority of the problem
Yeah she's weird.
Yeah she's weird.
Oh I checked what he text
Oh I checked what he text back and it was love you to...that is about it but he did not respond to all of them. IDK...Its just gross and weird....
Daisy, I am sure you know
Daisy, I am sure you know this is NOT NORMAL. The next time you and DH go to counseling, you need to bring up the emotional incest. He is enabling her. He needs to tell her flat out, "Go make some friends and do not text me all day everyday." I don't know why this is so difficult for him to do. He needs to get her a new therapist as well. The one she has obviously has no clue how severe her problems are. Also, DH needs to get into therapy too. There is something wrong with him if he doesn't see anything wrong with her behavior.
Daisy, i came home tonight
Daisy, i came home tonight with SO sleeping at the foot of SDs bed and she's sitting up watching tv. I empathize.
I have an affliction and its
I have an affliction and its called honesty/directness.
If after reading those disturbing textathons from sd, seeing DH's reaction to that and my shock, along with reading his reply of "I love you tooooo"...
I would administor a cold mental slap, something along the lines of "yes, well THIS is WHY we dont live together. That and the fact you think its sweet and normal :jawdrop: :sick: And THAT is WHY we probably wont EVER live together again, because you continue to enable her dependancy and anxiety. Excuse me I can feel the vomit climbing up my throat..."
No kidding either. I WOULD say this to my DH and sod the consequences.