You are here

Still haven't met my partners child.. advice?

loll5's picture

Hi, I would love some advice please...

I am a 22 year old girl and have been with my male partner of 1.5 years. He has a 3 year old boy with his ex-wife. He only sees his boy for anywhere between half an hour to 6 hours one day a week. This is due to the mood his ex-wife is in.

I have been wanting to meet the boy since early on, but have not been given the chance. My partner does not have the best connection with his son, so it makes it very hard for me to be apart of his life. Every week he goes to meet him, hoping he be able to take him for a few hours, but he usually has 'supervised' play time with his ex watching. She is rude, manipulative, and money digging. I am in love with my partner so much, but struggle daily to get over his ex-wife contacting him demanding more money (mind you, he pays full child support), and struggle with not having met the child yet. I am starting to resent the situation, as well as the son as he tells his dad to 'go away' and that he doesn't love him. Although this is clearly due to his mothers influence. My partner talks about eventually wanting his own family with me, and i would love that, however, am finding it really hard knowing there's another side to his life that I am not able to be apart of yet. It's also hard knowing his ex-wife is always going to be there manipulating him as well as their child.

On one hand I think I'm too young to deal with this situation, yet I do love him.

I need help please!

Comments

iwishyouwould's picture

hey babe - dunno what kind of advice i can give you but i am your age and married to a guy with a kid from an ex gf. read my blogs, maybe youll get an idea of what its like to be 21 and a step mom.

"i am but a lowly non baby's momma and you, you crazy girl are
the almighty goddess who bore life! how dare i speak. how dare i dirty the air waves to your blessed ears with my voice! to the dungeon - i must be punished for my audacity!"

fedupnow's picture

My advice for you is to take your time in this relationship. You are already feeling resentment towards his child and his ex wife now, and that can only get worse. I wish I lived with my husband and his two kids first before going down the aisle. As much as I love him with all my heart, dealing with kids that are not yours and dealing with his ex wife is very challenging. You are young, think about it very carefully on what you are getting yourself into. Good luck!

misfit's picture

Welcome to StepTalk!!

I'm 24 and I've been dealing with a slightly similar situation for over a year now. My partner has a 5 y/o boy from a previous marriage and our relationship has been great. We see him for about 8 hours once a week, but not consistently. This part is obviously different but it hasn't always been so good and we've had struggles. What struck me by your post is that you mentioned being too young to deal with this situation. I've felt like that as well and I'd like to share with you that you should keep your eyes WIDE open and observe their relationship and how things progress as objectively as possible. You should know that if you marry this man, regardless of how good or bad his relationship with his son may/may not be in the future, you will be marrying the man, his son, and his ex wife. You are getting a whole chunk of this man's past that will never ever actually be "the past". The extent of this varies from couple to couple and I don't mean to be negative (things worked out well for me so far) but I had to learn to be very careful of my expectations when loving a man with kids. His kids will always be a priority, his ex will always, to some extent, be in his life (it's not like your ex boyfriends who you'll never ever see) and you will never have your very own nuclear family with him. You should expect him to go through a lot of hard emotional situations and expect yourself to be able to understand (when sometimes you really don't want to) and support him. I had to access very early on if I was willing to be A LOT more selfless, understanding, cooperative, and way less egotistical if I was going to be with this man.

In my opinion, the hardest struggle for people our age is forming their own identities, figuring out what we like, dislike, what we're willing to take. When you put kids into the mix, your own selfish needs go on the back-burner. When you put OTHER people's kids in the mix, kids you need to welcome into your childless life and have affection and care for, it becomes much much harder. Kids really question your identity because you're not longer just a person for yourself, but for others. If you stick around, this kid will test your morals and needs and patience in ways you never expected. In strange, indirect ways, because they're not yours.

I'm not sure if any of this is making sense. I'm sorry if it's all a giant pile of confusion. I don't know how to explain it any better but I just ask that you are aware. Don't settle for what's okay or good. Get what you WANT out of life. These types of relationships often make you feel like you're not getting your way in MANY ways because you're not the center focus of the relationship if there are kids involved (again, the extent of that varies). You often give up your right to decide on certain things just because the well being of a child that isn't your own comes first.

This may be an indirect rant of my own but I hope it shines some light. Good luck to you and keep us posted on how things progress!

loll5's picture

Thankyou misfit! That was not ranting at all. I am so comforted to know others understand what I'm going through. Up until now, I have felt a little alone, and too selfish to bring it up with my partner, as I know he is having a tough time at the moment with it all. I realise I do need to perhaps take a step back and just be selfish for a little while and figure out if this is the life I want to lead. It is difficult to look beyond love, but you are right.... ultimately I need to 'get what I want out of life'. I will keep you posted..

Thank you!

Mariposa1's picture

Hey girl just wanted to asked you what happened with your relationship. Im kind of going through the samething only difference my bf is older

fedupnow's picture

Great advice misfit and well said. So true. Please take a real good look at the WHOLE picture and not only because you are in love with him.

Kb3Hooah's picture

Are you and your BF living together or have plans to marry? It's really hard to truly know someone and their situation in a year. I was with my BF for 3 years before we moved in together and I thought I knew exactly what I was getting into, after 3 years, who wouldn't? BUT, after living together for the past year now, it's so much more involved, stressful, and exhausting than I imagined it would be. Don't get me wrong, I love my BF, and I care for his children deeply, and I'm finally at a place where BM and I get along pretty well now (which does help the situation tremendously), but there are still issues that arise and will continue to arise for the remainder of our relationship. Issues that ppl in a nuclear family don't have to deal with.

It's a constant struggle that makes you look at yourself in the mirror almost daily and question whether you can continue on. My advice to you is, if this is what you want, don't rush things. If you and your BF plan to spend your lives together, you have plenty of time. Take things slow and allow things to fall into place and let things happen on their own without trying to force it. You may find out this isn't what you want afterall, and better to find that out before diving completely into a situation so that it's easier to get out.

___________________________________________________________________________
“The challenge is to help couples turn "I Do" into "We Can."

loll5's picture

No we do not live together. We're not planning on living together until we were to get married.. which I guess thinking about that now makes it sound a bit crazy. That would be throwing myself into the deep end I'm sure.

I know every relationship has its struggles, but to wake up daily 'questioning whether you can continue on' does sound very difficult. I know I have a lot of thinking to do. Perhaps a bit of soul searching.. I initially thought this is what I wanted, but I must say I am having my doubts.

Thankyou for your advice..

misfit's picture

Doubts are always going to be there. Without them, you're obviously living in denial surrounded by rainbows and unicorns. That's certainly not healthy. But like you said, if you're wondering more often than not whether this is where you want to be, something is off. It takes time to cultivate our place in any relationship. A little extra time in blended families. Seems like it takes a little extra of everything to find your place, actually. Maybe that's because you get a whole lot of "extra" when you join. Hehehe.

StepChicka's picture

A little off topic, I'm curious as to why he only sees his kid if XW allows it; 1-6 hours after a two hour drive? I can gather that in the beginning of their split the boy was infant therefore having to be in predominately in mom's care but he's 3 now. Have you talked to BF about this? Is he content with supervised visits?

Given the current situation, I wouldn't take it personal that you haven't met your boyfriend's son. There's just not enough time BF has with him. And would you want to given the current arrangement?

Direct your youthful energy into having a wonderful time with your man. You'll have plenty of time later to stress about life tribulations. Ah, to be 22! I'm so envious Wink

loll5's picture

She watches him play with his son at the park, and the written agreement is then that the BF can take the boy for the day. It comes to this stage of the morning, where the XW makes a scene about him leaving, so of course he throws a tantrum and doesn't want to leave. She revels in the fact she has control over this. He clearly has attachment issues that aren't helped by the XW allowing him to sleep with her every night. She is trying to make it as difficult as possible which just isn't fair.

Given this, I do understand why I haven't been able to meet him. I am just concerned the longer it is left the harder it will be to adjust for both the boy and myself. That might be the wrong mentality though given the boy is only 3, i'm not too sure. To be honest, I am worried about being so far in with my partner and realising this is not what I want. I really hope that is not the case. I'm not sure how I will ever be able to truly gauge what it will be like, until it happens. I need patience!

StepChicka's picture

"that might be the wrong mentality though given the boy is only 3"

You have the PERFECT mentality. You're thinking of the boy and yourself. You can't be happy if don't include your own happiness.

fedupstepdad's picture

Kudos to you Loll and Misfit...that was a GREAT response. You are at such a young age right now in life and have so much life ahead of you. If you know what you want in life right now that is great because that is one of the most important things you need to know, where you are going and what YOU want. And I agree with previous posters, you will not only be with this man, but his ex and his child and that takes ALOT of patience and understanding even if the situation is a good one (to which right now it doesn't sound like it given the exes influence and need to supervise visits). One question you need to answer...are you ready right now to give you life to this...CHILD? Not your BF, but his child because that child will be his son FOREVER. And if you and BF get married and have a family of your own that child will be YOUR childrens brother...FOREVER, good bad and everything in between. Please take the time you need to think about these things because that really is what you are looking forward to when you get involved with a person with children. PS I'm not a hater...married my wife with a SD and have our own children now and I love her to pieces...but SD has made it tough...:) Good Luck!

loll5's picture

Would it be possible for me to just not be apart of his sons life? He is happy to spend one full day a week with him pretty much forever. If I just stay out of it, would that be really unwise? My partner doesn't want it to be a burden on me, and I'm wondering if this might be an easier option than spending so much time and energy worrying about it all. Maybe it's a naiive way of looking at the situation..

StepChicka's picture

Yes it is possible and in your case very ideal. I'm sure you've read the posts on here. Being a step-parent is HARD. You'd be excluding yourself and boyfriend from a lot of headaches. Just keep in mind the custody might one day change.

smnikki's picture

at 22, i would say they are still way too many men to settle down with one with all these issues. I came on this site though at the age of 27, and was given the same advice, and i chose to ignore it.

but...ive now been married almost 4 months, i have an amazing husband, but any friend of mine who meets a guy with a kid... i tell them to run fast and run far!

under three weeks of us getting married...we were served papers that she was trying to get full custody and take us to the cleaners for child support...shes an idiot so of course she didnt get anything and actually kicked he self in her own butt, however three missed days of work later, and a couple of hundred in lawyer consult fees...we are now just sitting ducks waiting for her to flip out about something else and try to take us back to court.

you guys have been togther 1.5 years? my dh and i got married after knowing each other that long. but i was 27 and he was 30....i look back at when i was 22 and i can tell you who i was then (in college, party girl in hollywood, single still living at home) is very different from who i was when i met dh.

I would say that if you love bf, dont rush, because the worst thing you could do is get your self trapped in a crappy situation. It seems that bf eother soesnt care enough about his son to stand up to bm to have more time with his son, or he doesnt see you as his future enough to bring you in to all parts of his life.

im curious, how old is he? who does he live with? does bm know about you in his life? have you met his family and are you close with them if you have? im asking because it seems a little weird that after 1.5 years you still havent met his son....if he is in love with you as much as you say you are in love with him, i would think that he would fight to include you in this part of his life....but then again you are really young.

but really, no matter what, the controlling, money grubbing drama of bm will NEVER end, so if you are going to pursue things further, go in 100% knowing that you life will never really be all about you and your husband and your family, you will constantly have another woman trying to tell you husband what to do.

loll5's picture

He is 29, lives with his best friend. To be honest I'm not sure if BM knows about me or not.. I often wonder why he doesn't fight with all he has to make the situation better as it obviously upsets him, but he let's BM walk all over him. That's what is the most frustrating thing for me to sit by and watch. He says he doesn't want to cause drama as that will only make the situation worse as BM will then refuse him contact with his son. She holds all the cards! Very frustrating!

StepChicka's picture

uh, it sounds like they never filed or finished the legal process.

Someone said it earlier. something isn't right about this. Smells fishy. Sorry

Divorce records are public records by the way.

smnikki's picture

do you know the roommate? like if your bf was still involved with bm behind you back would he tell you? how much time do you spend with bf? how much does he spend with out you and you dont "really" know where he is. can you follow him with out him knowing to one of these play dates with bm? how is his family with you?

if his name is on the birth certificate, he still has cards in his hands...the longer he goes with out standing up for him self the more the courts will allow her walking all over him later. i think thats why a lot of dads get screwed in the court. they let bm do what ever the hell she wants so that it doesnt cause drama and stress with the kids, but then it looks like to the court that the dad didnt care enough to fight for his rights with the kid...then the court assumes the dad should just always be fine with bm running things.

there is something not right, honestly, i think bm is controlling bf because he either IS or still WANTS to be with her romantically and thats why you are being excluded from his life and child. my husband introduced me to my ss the third time i saw him. i would say that is a little soon, but dh knew he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me and wanted ss and i to form a relationship as soon as possible....now i understand that most couples dont get engaged 2 months after meeting, move in together at 4, and get married 1.7 years later. I clearly know our situation is not the norm, but......if he views you as anything but temporary, and has nothing to hide then he would be trying to develop a life for the two of you by now. Its been 1.5 years!

loll5's picture

I know his roommate quite well. I know he's 100% not seeing his XW again. I spend 6 out of 7 nights a week with him, and he shows me whenever he gets a text from her, as he tries to be as open with me as he can. There is just no way.. I trust him 100%.

I could follow him when he spends time with his son at the park, but I figure thats his time to try and forge a relationship with his son. I don't want to get so worked up over this that it consumes my life and makes me angry. I know I need to have my own life too, so I should let him do what he needs to do without making things harder. Its definately tough but maybe I need to just use that time to catch up with my girlfriends and have a chat and a laugh over coffee...anything to keep me distracted I guess!

loll5's picture

Seems to be the theme of the posts here... I do understand. It's something thats easier said than done though. I feel myself having those feelings and knowing everything that you said stepAside, however, I just find myself not wanting to end it and just thinking how unfair life is that something out of my control could potentially end it for us. He doesn't want to be in this situation, and i don't want to be in this situation. It just sucks when you do love someone so much. I would prefer a life with someone that has no baggage.. I just wish it was with him.

Amazed's picture

Loll5, honey 22 is REALLY young but I can't be critical of you bc I was involved with my husband at 22 also. There were so many opportunities for me to just shut the door on him and not look back but I CHOSE to stick with him. I did it because of love and loyalty. No one wants to be in situations like yours but no one wants to leave the person they love and never look back. Stay or leave...that's the hardest decision especially when deep love is clouding your logical thought process.

I won't suggest that you just walk out and leave the man behind. It doesn't appear you're ready to do that and you may never be ready to do that. I can tell you that you have to make up your mind about how far you're willing to let this situation push you. Then you have to share these limitations with your BF and MAKE SURE he understands that you have limits in what you're able to handle. But you have to respect his limits as well. Stop trying to be his mommy and protect him from the vicious biomom and the ungrateful child. You can't protect him sweetie and you can't save him from his choices. Your job as his girlfriend,fiance',wife,lover is to be there to love him and show him that YOU value him even if no one else does. I know it's irritating that he has to deal with another woman and I know it hurts to see him hurting over his child but if you don't separate yourself from that battle your resentment will tear you apart and ultimately cost you the love you feel for your BF.

An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind. ~Mahatma Gandhi