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Hot Saucing...topic of debate.

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Submitted by SteppingUp on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:36pm

http://moms.today.com/_news/2011/01/29/5942612-is-hot-saucing-discipline...

BM uses this form of punishment. I've brought it up before...but thought it was interesting that it's been a controversial topic recently on Dr. Phil.

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Submitted by overit2 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:45pm

The case of this woman is entirely different though-she was a classic abusive "mother".

That said I know many people use hot sauce or soap or pepper or something nasty tasting-I don't think it's abusive though...even if I chose not to do it w/my kids.

PLUS my 11yr old has liked hot sauce/food for a LONG time-would have never been a deterrent to him Smile

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Submitted by overit2 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:56pm

Wow-if I had to do jumping jacks/push ups 15 min straight I'd be hollering too lol...I don't think he's being overdramatic.

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Submitted by happymostly on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 2:09pm

I also agree on the relationship aspect. Alot of kids dont want to do something again if it hurts their parents, atleast I didnt either. My mom was really never strict with my brother and I, maybe because we were generally good kids, but when we did mess up... I just HATED knowing I hurt her and that she was disappointed in me. But then again, some of the skids on here I read about dont seem to care about hurting their dads... Maybe its just from lack of discipline all around...

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Submitted by hismineandours on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:08pm

Exactly-that relationship and bond are key. That is why so many of us have problems with our skids. They certainly don't give a flying fig if they disappoint or hurt us, in fact, I think my ss quite enjoys the idea.

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Submitted by skylarksms on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 2:30pm

I don't think that any ONE thing that she did is severe enough to be considered abusive. But the fact that she did ALL of the punishments (including yelling the whole time) was excessive. She showed no sign of love for this child at all.

PLUS to have your 10 year old DAUGHTER TAPING?!?!?!?!? That is WAY over the line.

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Submitted by sixteensmom on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 2:38pm

Used to send my son outside to run around the block several times depending on what he did as his punishment. 4x State Track Champion baby. Try it.

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Submitted by mom23ms on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 2:53pm

I don't know...I mean I got hot sauce and spanked as a kid and I wasn't abused nor scarred. But when I got spanked I got spanked with an open hand (no belts or anything) and I was only spanked on the butt. I remember that my parents always sat me in my room before I gotr spanked. When I was older I questioned why and they always told they had to calm down and they "never spanked while they were mad." As for hot sauce I did get a two or three drops on my tongue but I never got it poured down my throat. I can understand it beng abusive if it was excessive.

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Submitted by Elizabeth on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 2:58pm

It seems to me that this woman enjoys punishing this boy/seeing him in pain. It's one thing to punish in a way that you think will teach a lesson and another to punish just because you are frustrated and want to hurt the child. I can't believe he opened his mouth and LET her put the hot sauce in. That in itself tells me a lot about how scared this child is of this woman. I guarantee you he did that in the hopes that if the took his punishment it wouldn't escalate to something worse (like the cold shower). This woman has major issues!

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Submitted by purpledaisies on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 2:58pm

I saw the advertisements on it but didn't watch the show. but from what I saw she shouldn't have kids!

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Submitted by mom23ms on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:03pm

Dr. Phil doesn't come on until 5 today so I am anxious to see this...it sounds horrible.

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Submitted by SteppingUp on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:10pm

I'd really like to know -- did she tell her daughter, "Hurry up and go grab the video camera so I can tape this!" I know she was responding to Dr. Phil asking for parents who needed help with disciplining, but I just wonder how that all went down to actually get it on video. It also makes me wonder how much MORE abusive she probably is in REAL life, when NOT video taped.

I think the punishment went on for way too long...and the punishments don't fit the crime or teach him any valuable lessons. He's just scared to death to get into trouble because he is tortured as punishment. It's not a behavior-modification tool by any means.

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Submitted by overit2 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 4:19pm

I think I have found anyone that has experienced abuse by parents or others DO have scars-THAT is undeniable in my opinion.

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Submitted by hismineandours on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:13pm

Lots of folks use hot sauce (not me). But I hear it alot as a therapist. Also as a therapist, I always advise that there are better ways to discipline your child. While I dont believe hot sauce and cold showers are abuse in and of themselves (I didnt read the particulars of the story everyone is talking about)there are always better ways to discipline a child. Dh and I have used exercise on one occassion-our last vacation no less. Kids just all had a bad attitude and they needed to snap out of it. It was our way of saying hey we can do fun things or we can make this trip unpleasant. You would have thought they were dying after 5 minutes. It worked with all the kids except ss whose behavior got progressively worse after that! But usually I just use boring old methods such as taking something from them, losing a privilege, etc

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Submitted by MamaBecky on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 4:16pm

The hot sauce, although I wouldn't do it, wasn't nearly as bad as the cold shower. That just seemed so over the top. She seems like a nutcase! I dont think punishments should be physically painful. With that being said they should not be enjoyable either. For bad language/lying you can do something nasty without it being painful. A spoon full of mayonnaise, mustard, whatever your kid doesn't like...would be just as effective without burning them. I cant think of any circumstance where a cold shower would be a reasonable or effective punishment.

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Submitted by GoodbyeNormaJean on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:16pm

We don't go light on our kids discipline wise but I don't think the punishment was appropriate. For one, I'm in Alaska too, and our water here, straight out of the tap cold, is hypothermia cold. It's not like sticking a kid in a cold shower in Texas. It's like dunking a kid in a bucket of ice. It makes your extremeties hurt. I don't care for the hot sauce treatment either. When dealing with a kid that age there's a certain point where blasting them verbally causes them to tune out and that leads to some real damage if it's done often.