Scary Skid Stories
Hello! I'm grateful to be a part of the StepTalk community. I have been a dedicated stepmom for ten years. When I married my husband, who is 13 years my senior, he had recently gone through a divorce after 25 years of marriage and had three children with his previous wife. I entered the picture as a single-mom with a young son, and my husband adopted him, making us a united family. I have no family myself, so I was excited to create my own. I naively assumed I would be welcomed with love, support and acceptance by his people. I discovered quickly that this is rarely the case with stepmoms...and I certainly wasn't the exception. Albeit challenging, we have grown a lot since the beginning. Over the years, in addition to his two older children, I have played an active role in helping to raise my husband’s now 19-year-old son, while my husband and I contributed over $100,000 in child support and alimony to his ex-wife in addition to having my SS live with us part-time (including every weekend). Although I love my family, I still face ongoing challenges due to my husband’s divorce guilt, which consistently leads him to overcompensate with his biological children at my expense. We just moved to a new state to begin new careers (massive life change), and his 19-year-old stepson now lives with us full-time. He is unemployed, not in school, and occupying most of the shared spaces in our small, one-bathroom, two-bedroom apartment (our younger son continues to share his bedroom with my adult SS). In addition, my SS has no desire to contribute to the family. He is either sitting in his room playing video games all day, in-and-out of my only bathroom every 30 minutes, or in my new kitchen for hours upon hours trying out a plethora of recipes for meals he makes solely for himself. I have zero privacy as he does not leave the residence. Any progress made has been at my persistence by "nagging" at my husband. The tension in our household has significantly strained my marriage as I feel my stepson's needs continue to take precedence over my own. I want help and support, but my husband’s guilty-parenting approach has made it difficult to address the situation, leaving me feeling unheard, unhappy and incredibly stressed out. I’m looking for a safe place where I can be validated and anonymously process and gain insight and wisdom in moving forward. Thank you!
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WTH, no way a 19 y/o SS
WTH, no way a 19 y/o SS should be unemployed, not in school and in your small space. I have a 19 y/o BK living at home and while he is not a saint, he is employed and in college and has an active social life that does not interfere with our household. There is something seriously wrong with your SS. I would consider shipping him off to the job corp or military school if they will take his lazy ass.
Haha! Thank you! I needed a
Haha! Thank you! I needed a good laugh. He's actually the sweetest kid in the world but has been pampered his entire life. He's on the spectrum and definitely quirky/unique in his own way, so to an extent I understand the "special" treatment he has received; but while I embrace the "nature" of who he is, the "nurture" needs a LOT of work. He's pampered and coddled and entitled, and this will get him nowhere in life because he thinks the universe revolves around him. He was a straight-A student in school, very bright and talented, extremely innocent, shy and kind, and would never dare talk back to me or make poor choices with drugs/alcohol/deceit etc., so in those ways I am really lucky. And we have had a lot of fun together. But I have put my time, energy and resources into this kid, and I'm ready for him to move on. This new chapter was supposed to be my time, and my SS dominates my life, and it's suffocating. His bio-mom (who I was ecstatic to stop paying once he turned 18) continues to send him cookies and house supplies that she picks out for him to put in my home. He has pictures up of his mom and his dad along with their three children in his room all together as a family. Fortunately, my SS is finally looking for work and paying rent, but everything is happening at a snail's pace. My husband feels strongly that he needs more parenting, but I feel like he needs to leave the nest to stretch his wings and become independent. I'm exhausted! And miserable! And ready for it to be over. But I also want to support my husband. Just a really difficult situation that I have to live with, indefinitely... It is more of a spousal issue than a SS issue.
In that case, I take back
In that case, I take back most of what I said. I also gave a Bio son that is on the spectrum and he is the sweetest kid ever and a straight A student but not capable of functioning like a typical young adult. Lots of love to you as you navigate such a complex set of problems. It is hard as a bio parent to handle a kid on the spectrum, I can't imagine how hard it would be to be the step-parent trying to navigate it.
Thank you!
Thank you! I appreciate you sharing your experience and validating my situation. It feels so good to be HEARD!
My SS is extremely high functioning and actually totally capable of living on his own. He is independent, knows how to hold down a job, make food, grocery shop, etc. but he ALSO knows life is easier living with us, so he's milking it for all it’s worth. What it truly comes down to is "guilty dad syndrome”; my husband enables my SS so my husband can feel "liked" by him - almost like a competition with his ex-wife. To be clear, my husband loves me and dotes on me too, but when it comes down to my wishes vs. his bio kids' wishes, his bio kids will always come first. It is more important to my husband that he pleases his bio kids rather than pleasing me. He's too comfortable knowing he already has me, but he feels like he has to always "win" them over.
My SS's bio mom allowed my SS to spend most of his life on screens, so my husband wants to turn that around as we have different values in our home. This was already established for the decade I raised my SS before he was 18, so at our place my SS had different rules than his BM's home while he was growing up (which was also a battle as my husband never wants my SS to feel uncomfortable in ANY way). But because my SS is still so addicted to screens even into adulthood, my husband claims he wants to break him of it. Has that happened yet? Nope. Why? Because my husband is so timid in parenting him and doesn't want to be disliked by setting boundaries. And then says "Well, he is an adult" whenever I bring up the fact that he is hardly making any changes. So I can't win.
The bottom line is: my husband just wants him with us because his divorce guilt keeps him from letting go. He wants to be "liked" by my SS and that outweighs being respectful of his wife. So I have to continue to suffer the consequences of my husband’s former marriage and poor parenting with his ex. My husband is terrified of upsetting his kids in any way, but he has NO problem upsetting me.
We just moved to Los Angeles. Our place is expensive and we have worked our butts off to get here for over a decade. We have been extremely frugal, lived in less-than-desirable housing, sacrificed so much, gave up having a child of my own with my husband to focus on this transition, left my former career, and now finally made it here. And my SS, who wasn't a part in ANY of the work to get here, gets to enjoy all the fruits of our labor. Not only that, he's taking away from the bliss I have worked so hard for and dreamed so long about. I have been begging my husband for a sanctuary where I can have some peace of mind, and by moving his unemployed, not in school, video-game addicted adult son in with us full-time to our new small place is the opposite of what I have been working so hard towards. I'm miserable. So miserable I actually threw out my back and have been laid up for a month.
My SS continues to indulge in my space he had no part in creating. He lounges around regularly just baking bread, spending hours in my kitchen (until 2am) trying out recipes for just himself to eat, taking up our only bathroom, talking loudly to friends while playing video games until all hours of the night, and basically indulging in my hard-earned home. My husband treats our place as our gift to my SS. I have fought so much with my husband about it that we are on the verge of separation. So I can't keep going that angle. My husband is adamant that he stay here (against my wishes) as he will always put the comfort of his bio kids above the peace of our marriage. He said if my SS goes, then he goes too. I'm so heart-broken, I cry daily. I deeply love my husband, but I feel trapped and suffocated and profoundly disrespected. The turn-off is massive. My husband has no idea the happiness he is missing out in our marriage because he is hyper-focused on pleasing his bio kids. My husband's only solution is that I change my perspective.
If anyone knows of a therapists who specializes in Step-Family dynamics where they truly empathize with the step-mom, I'd love any suggestions! I have nowhere else to turn.
Ok, first off, turn the WiFi
Ok, first off, turn the WiFi off at 10.30. He doesn't need to be yelling at his pals at all hours.
Se only, make it known that you will be shutting the kitchen down and locking the door at 10 pm. This is about RESPECT for the other residents in your home. Ditto for the WiFi switch.
Your husband is being extremely selfish in trying to hold on to his son. He's allowing his want for his son to like him to outweigh his responsibility towards his son, that of being a functioning parent who prepares their child for their independence and future. How can your SS be successful in life if his daddy clings to him as if he were a teddy bear that he just can't bear to part with? The kid has potential, let him spread his wings, dammit!
Ask him why he doesn't love his son enough to help him gain his independence and face the outside world. The longer he hangs on to him the harder it will be for his son to actually launch. And dumping you to go and live with his son isn't doing him any favours . Threatening to leave if his son goes was a stupid thing to say. Does he really believe that his son can fulfill all his needs? And he his? Pffff, idiot that he is. He doesn't know when he's got it good.
Thank you!!! Thank you for
Thank you!!! Thank you for every word!! I have set so many boundaries: kitchen closes at 10, laundry needs to be finished on these days, dishes need to be put away, goals and a timeline need to be established, the house needs to be quiet after 10pm, the list goes on. I have sat down three times now with both my SS and DH about these issues. We have gone over and over and over them. My SS sits quietly and agrees to everything in front of my DH. But as soon as the meeting is over, none of these requests are followed. Not only that, my DH turns a blind eye to that reality. When I bring it to my DH's attention, his defensiveness is over the top. I'm accused of being petty, over-monitoring, nagging, ungrateful, anything to deflect responsibility. I have made three solid attempts to have rules and boundaries in my home. My SS does not follow them, and my DH does not hold him accountable. My DH cringes at any discomfort my SS has to experience, including just having a family meeting about expectations. I'm in a lose-lose situation. And the only result at any attempts to discuss, problem solve, or get my needs met result in full on horrible fights that leave me feeling profoundly neglected, emotionally abused and lonely. I've been going at it with my DH for three months now. Nothing has changed. My SS gets to indulge at my expense while I live in hell. My husband is an incredibly wonderful husband in countless ways, but he is also a very controlling, dominating man. Trying to reason with him about something this sensitive is like asking to be psychologically obliterared. He can't go there... and I can't do it anymore. I've decided to set up camp in my bedroom. Having an injured spine through all of this with unbearable physical pain makes this whole experience pure torture. There's no discussing anything. Although he theoretically agrees with all of my standards, he struggles to implement them. His son is king, and he is terrified of letting him down. I'm just here to enable it. And as long as I keep my mouth shut, then at least I will not be shouted at, gaslit, vilified, minimized, scapegoated, humiliated, ignored, given total silent treatment (which is so hard with this injury) you name it. So I'm picking my poison. The skid stays and lives how he wishes. Trying to reason with my husband does nothing more than destroy me further. So here's where I am now. I consider divorce regularly but have no support system. So I'm at a loss as to where I even begin. I lie in bed bawling my eyes out so much, and my husband pretty much just rolls his eyes and walks away.
Please explain how it is possible this is a wonderful husband?
Nothing has changed. My SS gets to indulge at my expense while I live in hell. My husband is an incredibly wonderful husband in countless ways, but he is also a very controlling, dominating man.
You need an upgrade to your sense of wonderfulness chip if you think this is wonderful.
In my state, Pennsylvania,
In my state, Pennsylvania, children on the spectrum can go to school until 22. Even after they graduate. They learn life skills and get help with employment. Look into what is available in your area. There are also more inclusive places of employment in our area, Philly suburbs. My husband has the same guilt with his other children. But their mother was a nightmare who taught them to hate me, him and my children, and be jealous of what we have. But if they would have acted right they would have had a space in my home and would have been included. They ALL made their bed. Now they live with 29 years of their actions. Now we can't even comfortably take his grandchildren because of how they have been taught to hate me. Take your BS at home into consideration. It affects them too. Good luck!
Welcome!
Welcome to Steptalk! I'm sure it will help you as it's helped many.
Like you, I've been in my stepfamily a long time. And, like you, I have the daddy guilt DH87 here, still babying his little girl, SD62. I also face resistance when I suggest changes.
The only thing that has ever worked for me was when I expressed my thoughts as concern. "I'm so worried about .SS, he is so (positive comnent like so smart, so good -ooking, so likeable, whatever). I worry that he is so (isolated, lonely,, not moving forward, etc)". Then see what he says.
I totally agree its too much, it's time for him to flap his wings.
That's great feedback
That's great feedback, thank you! It is crazy-making, isn't it? 62!? That is maddening. I have been working on my approach to the topic, but addressing it over and over again is exhausting and not how I want to spend my time. I resent having to take the lead when this isn't even my kid, making the situation even more sensitive. In addition, my input doesn't equal my DH's output - any progress made is painstakingly slow, so I am left totally drained by the work of it all. I agree with you 100 percent that the approach to the topic has to be well-constructed and positive in order to be effective, but even that gets overwhelming as I have to continually address the issue with the most sugar-coated, fluffy, sweet, patient, loving, tender attitude to get even MAYBE an inch of progress. I basically have to spend my day figuring out how to delicately let me husband know what I need without upsetting him. This becomes its own challenge as my DH is triggered by any and all feedback around his bio-kids, no matter how pleasantly or constructively addressed!
Stepson’s Needs
"The tension in our household has significantly strained my marriage as I feel my stepson's needs continue to take precedence over my own."
What are your stepson's "needs?" Video games, unlimited time to lollygag? Your husband is severely failing to meet his son's needs. Allowing him to exist this way as a young man will cripple him and turn him into a lifelong loser. Yep, I said it. Loser. He is losing valuable time to learn a skill or begin building a career. He is losing the opportunity to build his character. He will lose at life if he continues to be supported by his father into adulthood while not being required to grow as a person and have or meet any expectations. And if he becomes a loser, you all lose.
EXACTLY! And although my
EXACTLY! And although my husband recognizes everything you just stated, he's intimidated by his own insecurities/guilt to really draw a hard line with his son... so I'm left being the bad cop. It is awful! To my husband's credit, he is making progress with him, but it is excruciatingly slow and I'm so over it. I wanted this kid out yesterday. My husband's goal of feeling "liked" by his bio kid overpowers the goal of my husband parenting him toward an independent life. So when that is the root of the problem, progress is very minimal and primarily at my insistence.
So ask him why he doesn't
So ask him why he doesn't love his son enough to help him stand on his own two feet and be a functioning adult. You might also point out that trying to keep his son dependent on him by not actively encouraging him on his way to independence is only feeding his own insecurities and doing a great disservice to his son.
Trust me, I've said it ALL.
Trust me, I've said it ALL. And my husband is making progress with him...sloooooooowly. But because there's at least SOME progress, he uses that every time I bring it up. I can't win. There's nothing I can say to my husband that will encourage him to move his son out any time soon. My husband feels justified in prioritizing his kids "liking him" over his wife's sanity, so nothing I can say will change his mind. It just leads to horrible fighting and my husband feeling more righteous that he's making a great decision and that I just have a "bad attitude".
No offence intended but
this isn't about his son liking him vs your sanity; this is about him prioritising his own feelings over his son's future. He's dragging the independence process out because it makes him feel good, needed, rather than concentrating on helping his son have a real, independent self-sufficient life. In other words, he is more concerned with getting the warm fuzziness rather than being a parent worth his salt.
E-X-A-C-T-L-Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
E-X-A-C-T-L-Y!!!!!!!!!!!
My DH's use of the term
My DH's use of the term "Parenting" actually means "I'll do whatever it takes to make my bio kids like me so I can feel good."
Between my two parents, there were SEVEN divorces...and nobody coddled me as the child going through it! Never have and never will! In fact, the only thing expected of me was to show immense respect for any step-parents in my life. The suffering, abuse and trauma I went through both as a child and adult is exponenetially deeper than anything my SS has ever experienced in his life. I have lost all bio family due to tragedy and dysfunction. Yet, my step-son, who went through ONE divorce and who has lived a pretty luxurious life, gets unlimited empathy, support, and comfort - at my expense. And is he taught to have any compassion for me? Haha in my dreams.
Despite all the odds, I'm still on my first marriage - but I have received the short end of the stick both as a step-child and as a step-mom. I just feel devastated.
Dad and mom aren't going to
Dad and mom aren't going to be around forever. Your husband is doing his son no favors. With the way the world is, you've got to hit the ground running just to stay afloat. He needs a stable, decent-paying career so he can support himself in the future. Your husband should have set him off down that road already.
Exactly!! That is my husband
Exactly!! That is my husband's goal, but it is a process I have to lead, and I resent it because it's not my responsibility and I've put in my time...
Welcome to the site!
"Husband's divorce guilt" as you put it, is a massive factor for many of our step family woes, leading them to inappropriately spoil their biological children, not have reasonable expectations of them, not set reasonable boundaries for them. There is also the fear for some that if they don't do all these things, they will have nothing further to do with their fathers. This was my problem! As you say, it's more of a DH issue than an SS issue. Your husband needs to change his approach and start requiring action of his son, not just let him sit in his bedroom all his life. If he doesn't tackle it now, it will become too much of a habit. He really is not doing his son any favours with his laissez faire attitude.
Thank you! I really
Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to understand my situation share your experience, and I completely agree with you 100 percent. My husband actually does subscribe to the parenting-philosophy you addressed, but it is really difficult for him as making his bio kids "uncomfortable" in any way is EXTREMELY diffiult for him. So, as you can imagine, this process is taking a VERY long time...
Kidults either need to be in
Kidults either need to be in school or work. The goal is for them to launch. My SS was not interested in University after HS. He was also not interested in a job. So, we made him our live in 24/7 beck and call chore boy as the primary component of the burning platform to get him to launch.
As it turned out, he had ADHD. Though it was not Dx'd until he was in his late 20s. It took 8mos but he did launch and successfully. His path was in the military. There are incredible professionals that make their career building young people into contributing members of an organization. SS-32 is less than 7 yeares from full military retirement.
He is a man of honor and character, an adult of standing in his life, profession, and community.
If SS-19 is foundering, you may want to vector him to the military. If his academically strong he could benefit from the structure and the professional development.
Thank you for sharing! That's
Thank you for sharing! That's excellent feedback. I appreciate your support. I'm willing to do whatever it takes so I can live in peace.
You mention he's "on the
You mention he's "on the spectrum." Being a spectrum, that could mean anywhere from slight problems with social skills to nonverbal and needs to wear a helmet to walk around. But, wherever he is on the spectrum, having him just sit and play games with no future plan is bad. If he truly will never be able to live alone or hold a job, you guys need to be looking into respite care, sitters, and group homes. If his condition is more mild, your DH should be looking at job training programs or even just getting him into entry level work.
My ex-DH's nephew is on the spectrum and, though he did struggle, went to school for and is now a professional firefighter and is also in a band that plays gigs in our local area. He does still struggle to manage money but his mom guides him, and he has been living on his own a few years.
His parents never let him loaf around, always made sure he was working toward a goal. He is 23 and is where he is because he wasn't allowed to lay about for even a few days. They didn't try to shield him from the world or protect him from failure. He's been kicked off teams, fired, had to repeat classes, etc. But they never let him make excuses and he is now more successful than some of his neurotypical cousins. If your SS is even remotely capable of doing more than he is, his dad is coddling him into failure.
I completely agree. My
I completely agree. My husband is terrified to make his BKs uncomfortable in any way that he avoids pushing them hard. In fact, he just pushes me harder to accommodate their comfort, and that's where I feel like it has broken me.
And he's very very slight on
And he's very very slight on the spectrum. Hard to really even tell most of the time... just a tad socially awkward.
In that case, his father is
In that case, his father is failing him, and you, miserably.
Yup!
Yup!
Let me first of all welcome you to these boards
You must understand most of us have PTSD. or are getting it. You see clearly what's is happening, I agree with you. No kid at 19 should be aloud to sit at home playing on his phone all day. Either college , since he's a good kid you will help him out. Or get a job work and contribute to the home.
'You don't need a 19 yo SS. Under your feet all day. DH must be made to understand some day he will be not around anymore. And there is nothing sadder. Then a 40 yo who can't manage his life. Because his BF did everything for him.
Its the grown up thing not a punishment. To work, have an apartment, car, friends. to spend tine with. And there nothing sexy about a grown man living with his parents
And there nothing sexy about
EXACTLY
if Disney parents could understand they're enabling and coddling is turning their spawns horrible future spouses that no one would want to marry or stay married to they'd probably change their ways ... heck no wonder why some of these kids don't even have friends
Heck half the spouses/DH/BMs on here were probably raised by a Disney parent who never held them accountable/raised them with responsibilities/taught them that the world doesn't revolve around them
Thank you!!!! You're SPOT ON!
Thank you!!!! You're SPOT ON!!!
Thank you for your validation
Thank you for your validation and feedback! I'm so grateful to find an outlet on this forum. This situation is destroying my health. I threw out my back, I'm losing my hair in clumps, I cry all the time, I am losing interest in my husband, and I am losing faith in having a quality life. I am completely devastated. I'm so glad I now have other women to connect with who understand. I am so lonely with this pain and trying to navigate this journey with my husband only leads to horrible fighting. It is a life no woman or wife ever dreams of living. Ever.
Thank you for your
Thank you for your understanding and support. It’s comforting to know that someone else sees the situation clearly. I completely agree with you that it's important for kids at that age to be doing something productive, whether it’s college or work. It’s not healthy for them to be idle all day, and it certainly isn’t easy to have them underfoot all the time.
I also share your concerns about the long-term effects on their future. I want to do what’s best for him, but sometimes that means setting boundaries and encouraging independence rather than enabling dependency. It’s definitely not about punishment—it’s about helping him grow into a capable adult. I appreciate your words of encouragement and will keep pushing for what’s right.
Easy there Harry. I may just be that guy before long.
And there nothing sexy about a grown man living with his parents
Only worse, a guy in his 60s living with his parents dragging his wife along for that experience.
Hon, you’ve written:
Hon, you’ve written:
‘I threw out my back, I'm losing my hair in clumps, I cry all the time, I am losing interest in my husband, and I am losing faith in having a quality life..’
I’m feeling great compassion for your situation and great anger towards your unreasonable, selfish husband! He must be aware of your suffering yet continues to treat you as a second-class citizen. After a decade of sacrificing for your DH’s first family, it’s long past time for you to take care of yourself!
Nothing will change unless you take drastic steps. Clearly, your DH is satisfied with the existing state of affairs or he would have tried to improve your circumstances long ago. You’ve mentioned that your SS is high functioning and capable of living on his own, which makes your DH’s failure to motivate his underperforming BS into pursuing further education, a trade or the military a major parental failure.
Life is short, Skids, and it’s not surprising that you’re losing interest in your DH. As far as this old granny is concerned, it’s time to start looking for a small place of your own. When one’s health begins to suffer from untenable domestic conditions, alternate plans must be considered. Your unhappiness is being ignored by your DH and a ‘come to Jesus’ confrontation with him might just wake him up to the error of his ways.
Quite frankly, Hon, if it were me, I’d have been long gone before the move to that small apartment. Changing careers is generally associated with an increase in pay; do you have enough independent income to live on your own? I’ll bet the farm that leaving your inconsiderate husband and his mollycoddled son would, ultimately, bring you peace and happiness.
Welcome to the site and I hope that we'll be able to help you decide on your best course of action. ♥️
Thank you so much for your
Thank you so much for your compassion and your insight. You’re absolutely right—my situation has been incredibly draining, both emotionally and physically. It feels like I’ve been putting my own well-being on hold for too long and I’m paying the price for it now.
I’ve sacrificed a lot for this family, and it’s frustrating to see that the dynamics haven’t shifted, even though my stepson is capable of standing on his own. My husband’s guilt-driven decisions are making it hard for us to have any peace or balance, and it’s getting to the point where something has to change.
I’ve considered the drastic steps you mentioned, like finding my own space, and I have had many confrontations with my husband about it. He has agreed that he is willing to divorce me over moving his adult son out - only further validating that his BKs will always come first. So that's the only option I have... I don’t want to walk away from everything we’ve built, but I also know I can’t keep sacrificing myself like this. I’m going to have to make some difficult decisions to protect my own health and happiness.
Thank you for welcoming me to the site. It helps to hear from others who understand what I’m going through. I truly appreciate your advice. I don't have any family to turn to so having this space to process is a gift.
And @ grannyd, I left my
And @ grannyd, I left my former career for this move to new city and now I'm currently unemployed while my husband is getting ready to pursue his new career. So finances are tight. Yes, I should have left a long time ago. In fact, I should have never married a recently divorced man with three children and an ex-wife of 25 years. I shouldn't have married someone who would always prioritize their first family over me. I shouldn't have married someone so couldn't put his wife first. I was young, never married, fresh out of grad school, and had my whole life in front of me. I was insecure and lonely and settled. Now I've invested my finances, time, energy, resources, my LIFE into these people realizing the mistake too late....and my youth and fertility are fading. And the damage is done. Where do I go from here? I literally have no other family members in my life. I'm paralyzed with grief. I am so heartbroken.
He has apparently forgotten
He has apparently forgotten the vows he made on your wedding day, especially the part about forsaking all others. Or did he not realize that they actually meant something and that he was expected to keep them as were you or was it all for shit and giggles to him?
Speaking of vows…
Speaking of views....his skids and extended family and friends made my wedding miserable. I had zero family or friends there for me. It was only my husband's people. My husband's sister brought their mother's ashes so they could spread them since "everyone was together". His adult kids (both who lived with their significant others) were a nightmare and drinking/on drugs and throwing tantrums the entire time about how things weren't all about them. My husband's friend actually said to me that I needed to make things "about the kids" as it was so hard on them and kids need to come first. And just to show the extent my husband prioritizes his skids over the marriage: on our wedding night, my husband asked me if he could take them out to breakfast the next morning while I slept!!!!!! I was absolutely crushed... and I had just married him. I cried the entire night. We weren't even intimate. It was just a glimpse into what was to come...
Welcome. And I'm sorry you're
Welcome. And I'm sorry you're dealing with this. The daddy guilt is very difficult to be around and it's very unattractive. My DH was there in earlier years. Marital and individual counseling helped us.
Thank you so much for your
Thank you so much for your kind words and for sharing your experience. It really helps to know that someone else has gone through something similar. The "daddy guilt" is definitely hard to be around, and you're right—it's incredibly unattractive. I'm glad to hear that counseling helped you both; it's something I've considered as well, but my husband has made it clear that if I don't like how things are then he just wants a divorce. He would NEVER in a million years put my needs over his BKs. So if someone needs to leave, he has been adamant that it should be me.
He sounds selfish and immature
What a childish thing to say! He's a "my way or the highway" kind of guy? I'd seriously consider taking the highway. It's never too late!
MorningMia
Thank you so much for the validation. I have been considering taking the highway for the past decade. I'm overwhelmed with where to start so I keep pushing it down the road. I don't have any bio family support and my DH is in charge of all the finances. So I feel really trapped. I don't know where to turn or what to do. I need help.
You need a adult
Only you and DH week or weekend get-a-way. Nice hotel, with room service a spar Great restaurant. Getting away from this craziness. And to see how DH handles this. Being away from mini wife. [ yes sons can be mini wifes]. If he can actually enjoy being with you . Any animal goes to a per sitter not SS.
Thank you. I wish this was
Thank you. I wish this was something on his mind, but unfortunately, my DH has other priorities. Being romantic over his BK just isn’t for him. It feels like I’m just along for the ride on his life journey. But your suggestion does sound like a dream, and it’s something I wish we could do. I hope I can still have it with someone if it's not too late in my life.
My DW and I have a very
My DW and I have a very similar age difference to you and your DH. Though I am the elder by 12yrs.
We started our relationship when SS-32 was 15mos old. We married the week before he turned 2yo. Though the CS in our case was a pittance as the SpermClan paid first $110/mo for a year, then $133/mo for 9 years. At that point DW filed for an ammendment of CS and it went up. Over the full 17yrs with a CO the total paid by the Spermidiot was about $50K.
Keep It Stupid Simple. K.I.S.S. works.
For us, what worked, was setting standards of behavior and standards of performance that kids in our marriage would be held to. In an age appropriate manner.
We for the most part partnered effectively in that effort. When we got out of synch it was usually when my DW decided she did not like how I was parenting and disciplining. At those points "If you do not like how I am parenting and disciplining, then step up and get it done before I have to. Or, have my back. Your choice." was how I addressed the occassional tendency that any BioParent has to coddle rather than actually parent.
They all do it as some point. The key to making a quality family with someone who has prior relationship children is the standards of behavior, standards of performance, and associated boundaries that both of the equity life partners have established and commited to raising any kids in the family with. Regardless of kid biology. Theirs, yours, or yours together. Flavor of kid really is irrelevant.
KISS.
Though as it turned out, for us, SS was and is an only. He is the eldest of 4 Spermidiot spawned half sibs by three baby mamas for the Spermidiot. Sadly, #2 is on the dole, #3 is in prison, and #4 is not far behind the convict. For us, KISS worked. For SS's younger half sibs, coddling failed them miserably.
If the SO does not have effective standards, your SO parents to your standards. Period. Dot. Or they bite their tongue and have your back while you do what they are failing to do.
IMHO of course.
Thank you for sharing your
Thank you for sharing your experience. It's helpful to hear from someone who has navigated a similar dynamic, especially with such a significant age difference and the challenge of co-parenting a stepchild. I appreciate your emphasis on keeping things simple with clear standards for behavior and performance—it seems like that structure is crucial, especially in blended families.
My husband falls into the "coddling" category when it comes to his biological children, which makes maintaining those boundaries and standards difficult. I completely relate to your statement that when one partner isn't parenting effectively, the other has to step in - which has always been my role as SM. The idea of holding each other accountable and ensuring both partners are on the same page is something I’m working towards in my own situation, but I get exhausted always taking the lead.
Your story gives me perspective and I’ll definitely keep your KISS approach in mind as I continue to navigate this. Thank you for your insight!
Don't forget to take care of
Don't forget to take care of you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
He is the breeder of the
He is the breeder of the problem child. No need for you to lead. In fact, keep DH in front of you so you can keep your foot up his idiot failed daddy, failed husband ass.
I'm all for taking action so
I'm all for taking action so that you can eventually get out from under a marriage in which one partner's needs don't count. You need a plan.
First step might be therapy--for just you. It will help you sort out your own priorities and options. You also need a job so you can squirrel away money to get your own place and support yourself.
Once you start taking tiny steps to improve your situation, you'll feel more empowered. Flip side of that is your DH might feel like he's losing control and will ramp up. Your therapist can help you set boundaries, including defining what you will do when he crosses them.
Don't focus on what is behind you and what could have been. You can't do anything about those things. You can, though, think about what a happy future looks like and start planning how to get there.
Agreed!
Thank you for your incredibly wise advice! I truly appreciate it. I struggle with this decision because I know that my husband cares about me and he dotes on me in many other ways, but his need to make his BKs comfortable at my expense drops a bomb on our relationship. He does so much RIGHT as a husband, but fails miserably in this category. The combination of treatment is what makes it incredibly difficult to leave. Either way, I'm going to take your suggestions to heart and start focusing on the steps I can take to create a better future.
Great advice, Merry!
Skids, I can’t stop thinking about your situation and how soul-destroying it must be, married to a man who loves you so little that he can experience your great unhappiness, your nightly tears, and fail to alleviate your suffering. My DH can’t stand to see me cry and would do anything in his power to make me feel better. Face it, Hon, the man does not love you! At best, you are a ‘wife appliance’, in his life to make it easier.
By my (dubious) math, you are in your late thirties or early forties. I started dating the man of my dreams when I was thirty-seven and married him five years later. Trust me, you have a lot of life to live, but if you remain with your husband, you’ll be wasting that life when you could be finding happiness.
Is there a chance that you could return to your previous job? Also, keep in mind that you are entitled to half of your combined assets and, due to the length of your marriage, alimony as well. Divorce is difficult and frightening; I’ve been through it twice, yet coming out on the other side was almost miraculous.
Grannyd
Thank you so much for your thoughtful and compassionate message. I’m actually 42 (good math!), and I used to be a teacher. While I could go back to teaching, I’d need to wait for a job opening, which isn't immediate. On top of that, I’m facing possible surgery for two bulging discs in my spine, so that’s adding another layer of difficulty right now.
As for my husband, you're right. It’s been a constant struggle. It feels like he’s allowed me to cry myself silly throughout this entire marriage without really doing anything to ease my pain. It is normal at this point.
Your words hit home, and I truly appreciate your concern. It’s comforting to know that there are people who care and have been through similar situations. I’ll definitely be thinking about what you said, and I’m grateful for your insight and advice—it means more than I can express. I'm so lonely and scared and overwhelmed. My husband has repeatedly told me that if anyone is going to leave, then it needs to be me. He made it clear his son stays. I don't know what to do...
Welcome to Steptalk!
Im glad your here but sad you are here also. My advice is to read around the blogs and forums here, if you havent already (although you have the lingo down, so I suspect you lurked a bit before posting your own story) and I would echo back the seeking of therapy for yourself. Your "husband" can pay for it.
You can try rags method of doling out the chore list. Using your back as the "reason".
Now firstly - did you two buy this place you are in now? Its uber expensive all over California, so that was quite the accomplishment if you managed to do that, especially in Los Angeles. For those in other countries or states who might consider LA to be Louisana (wink).
Im up in Central Coast California - practically a whole different state. Its super expensive and we bought super low, and refinanced at a super low rate so now Im kind of stuck. The fertility thing was never an option for me, but if it is for YOU, really really consider is this is the person you want to be with for the rest of you fertility life as well as natural life.
I currently have SD25 Feral Forger and we are no contact. And SD18andgraduated Princess Powersulk Do Nada, Our Lady of Inertia, goddess of Sloth. She has no job, not in college classes, has not even completed the fafsa, no drivers license and not even a gvt issue photo ID (which I offered to pay for as a bday/grad gift last may). Shes generally kind and respectful and shes been continuing the week on week off schedule she had during the visitation, and so Ive been like yourself minus the back. Ive lectured, Ive discussed, Ive pushed, Ive pullled. The only thing I havent done is withdraw the zekzy time because it benefits me.
What we have come up to is that I am comped money from the bills as payment for her living in my home. I tried being the "chore giver" but all that accomplished was attitude and withdrawal from her and then they gang up on me in a passive-agressive way. For example "thank you DAD. Your welcome DAD."
Im like eff that. Im no longer the chore giver as thats too much work and I already have a full time job.
Are you able to work, or must you apply for disability? I would definitely consult with a lawyer to see what your options are - many consults are free. Do some reading and research on your own since you are currently out of work. You need to feel empowered and we can help with validating your experience, but you also need some cold hard facts too. Find out what the laws are in the state you were married in. Since your husband is the high earner he will probably have to pay something should you choose to part ways.
So - some ideas are being thrown out. The BEST idea IMHO is take care of you. Your being healthy is the key to figuring this thing out.
Thank you for the welcome!
Thank you for the really thoughtful response and for clarifying that L.A. refers to Los Angeles—it made me smile! We're actually renting a small apartment here, so no big house accomplishment for us just yet. California housing is crazy expensive, as you know.
Unfortunately, I’m not currently able to work due to my back issues, and I’m in the process of applying for disability, so that’s been a tough road. I really appreciate your advice about therapy; I know it’s something I need to focus on, and yes, my husband *should* cover it. I also liked your suggestion about consulting a lawyer, especially since I need to make sure I’m aware of my options.
Thank you again for your support and insight. It really helps!
It's unfortunate that his
It's unfortunate that his parents didn't better prepare him for "life" and a lot of times it feels like neither parent really is all that worried about the situation.. just assuming the "other parent is handling it".. then boom.. hot potato is in your court.
I think your situation is definitely magnified by the other stressors you are dealing with. New home.. new state.. new jobs etc.. Even GOOD changes bring stress into our lives.. you all must (including your SS).. be dealing with a lot after a big move like that.
The size of your home also seems fairly small for three adults and your other child (assuming still a minor).
I think you need to have a serious talk with your husband about his plans for a launch. It might even mean that he needs to help subsidize his kid a bit to get him out on his own.. he paid CS (I hope I was not understanding YOU personally were paying any support from your funds.. that would have been wrong. .and again a husband problem). maybe he can afford to pay out a little bit to ease his kid's transition (assuming he can afford it obv...) the lesser of two evils might be him in his own space.. where mom can send him all the care packages he needs haha.
Just because he is in his own place doesn't mean your DH hast to stop parenting him.. he can spend time with the boy at his place. you can host him for family dinners.. he can help him go over his bills and budget etc..
My ex's nephew (on the
My ex's nephew (on the spectrum) moved out, and it quickly became clear he would blow any money he could get his hands on. He did ok otherwise. He is a firefighter and is now training to be an electrician. He struggles a bit with social issues, has some sort of minor bizarre interpersonal issues from time to time, but he works and studies and lives on his own. As i understand it, his parents just help manage his finances and help him with forming a study schedule, but he's otherwise living a normal life for a 23-year-old. Doing better than many his age who are neurotypical from what i can see and read about here. They absolutely did not coddle, though. ETA my son, who is between the ages of him and his older brother, loves talking to him and hearing about his adventures from his unique perspective. If he were allowed to rot in his room, he would have a very sad life.
@ Rumplestiltskin
Thank you for sharing that. It sounds like your ex's nephew has really found a good balance in his life with the support his parents provide. It's reassuring to hear about someone on the spectrum thriving on their own, especially when the right guidance is in place without coddling. I can only imagine how much more fulfilling his life is now compared to what it could’ve been if he'd stayed stuck in his room.
I agree that helping my SS transition to independent living, with some support in areas where he might struggle—like managing finances or keeping a structured schedule—could be the push he needs. The last thing I want is for him to end up in a stagnant, unmotivated situation long term. It’s great to hear that your son enjoys hearing about his cousin’s experiences too—hearing success stories like that makes me hopeful for our situation.
@ ESMOD
Thank you for your thoughtful message. You're spot on about his parents not properly preparing him for adulthood, and now the responsibility continues to be falling on me to help figure it out. It does feel like both of them are assuming the other will take care of it, and in the end, it’s left in my lap.
You're right that the other stressors—moving, new jobs, and settling into a new home—are amplifying the challenges. It’s definitely been overwhelming for all of us and having four people in a smaller home with only one bathroom adds to the tension.
I definitely have conversations with my husband about his plans for helping my SS transition out on his own. I agree that maybe helping him get started in his own place would be a good solution, even if that means some financial assistance from my husband. At this point, I would much prefer that to the current arrangement. It would give all of us some space and hopefully lead to more positive interactions in the long run. Regardless, my husband wants him here with us (making up for lost time as a divorcee/guilty father) for as long as possible. As this is the case, I have repeatedly sat down with both my SS and DH (per my DH's request that I "find solutions" rather than complain) detailing house rules and expectations for the time being. Regardless of my efforts, these expectations and requests consistently go unmet, ignored, and disrespected and when brought to my husband's attention, he turns a blind eye and does not hold my SS accountable for any of it and vilifies me for being a "nag". This makes me feel crazy.
Also, to clarify, thankfully, we didn’t pay child support out of solely my own funds, but it still impacted our finances as a household as we share a bank account. You're absolutely right that my husband should remain involved as a parent, even if his son is living elsewhere. There are plenty of ways for them to stay connected and for my SS to get the support he needs without living with us.
Seeking Advice!
Hello fellow steps,
I am seeking some advice. When the boundaries I set around my 19-year-old adult step-son living with me (and working very, very part-time and while nothing else - but at least NOW working thank goodness!) are not really supported by my husband, what do I do? I have repeatedly asked my DH to sit down with my SS to set concrete goals, review house expectations and put together a plan for launching. My DH does a little of parenting here and there, and some progress is made, but my DH is very passive as father to his bio kids and the results are obviously rather ineffective. My adult SS dominates my home. And my DH is frustrated that the "joy" of having his son around full-time (massive daddy-guilt/making up for lost time post-divorce) is causing me grief. I have said all the things I'm supposed to say (both to my DH and SS), have had all the talks, have made all the efforts, and as a result I consistently get minimal outcomes with maximum conflict. I can't go this route anymore.
I am seeking advice on how to remove myself completely from the "co-parenting" (aka no authority as a step-mom but with all responsibility of providing for my SS) role so I can focus on myself and end this ongoing battle with my husband.
In what ways can I live peacefully and keep my sanity while staying married. Is it possible? Remember, my rules, boundaries, requests, and wishes are minimally respected by both my DH and my SS, so I can't keep going that route. Otherwise my husband and I will end up divorced due to the endless fighting over this situation.
I'd love any feedback!
Thank you.
It is absolutely possible to
It is absolutely possible to stay married and have peaceful life while removing yourself from coparenting. It is called the burning platform. Though in your case I would upgrade it to the burning platform of abject misery for your SS. You rent an small apartment. Start making that environmaent one that is completely miserable for SS and ... for his failed parent of a daddy. Clean nothing and do not allow either of them to go to bed without the entire residence being while glove inspection ready. Do none of their laundry and when they let it pile up, throw it away with the garbage. Do only your own laundry. Cook nothing for them. Do no food shopping except for yourself and keep it locked up so that only you can use it and eat. Buy a small fridge with a lock, put a lock on the pantry door. Shut the WiFi and Cable off when you go to bed. Turn it on only when you want to use it. Just make sure that you are the only one with the PW. When they get the PW, they get a one time use of it then change it. As they get more irritated, go deeper in delivering the misery. When your DH finally gains clarity inform him that it is time for SS to launch and for you and DH to focus on your life together. Make sure DH understands that life together is wonderful when it is only the two of you.
Lather...... rinse,..... repeat.
Rags!
Thank you so much for the great suggestions!! My adult SS now does all his own laundry and prepares his own meals (thank goodness) but he still dominates my space... spending literally hours in my kitchen on a daily basis because he eats a TON of food and wants to try out a variety of recipes - for himself only, of course. He works at max 20 hrs/week and spends the rest of his time in my home... usually walking around in his bathrobe in between playing video games. My husband even lets him lounge in my bed while they visit together - maybe even while they call to talk to the older skids on speaker as their own little family...in my bedroom. I have drawn all the boundaries I can draw and none of them are respected...including my request to not have his adult son lay in my bed in my spot. My husband reluctantly "agreed" to this last boundary for now but ONLY after he threw a tantrum about how selfish I was...
So I'm stuck. I have no autonomy. No privacy. No authority over my own life. I have said ALL the things... all of them (he needs a plan, more hours at a job, schooling, goals, rules, etc) with the maximum amount of fighting and the most minimal progress made. My husband has put his foot down that he deserves this time with his adult son and that his adult son deserves this time living in our home (at my expense). Therefore, I'm just at the mercy of my DH's decisions. So unless I just shut up and go along with it, we will fight and fight and I'll cry and cry and we will most likely divorce... which is tempting at this point. So that's why I don't know how this is possible...
6 months of hell…
I'm 6 months in with my adult SS living in my home. He spends all his time lounging in his bathrobe playing video games every day, all day, and doesn't leave the house. He works a maximum of 20 hours per week and spends the rest of his time in my tiny, expensive apartment doing absolutely NOTHING but taking up my space, resources and privacy. My husband refuses to move him out... and as a result my marriage is hanging on by a thread.
Thanksgiving I spent in tears in my room as my husband's adult children came over and FaceTimed with their other adult siblings and my husband's ex-wife and her family...in my living room. I sat horrified as his adult children lifted their legs and farted, literally walked on the tops of my new couches while playing games, and made inside jokes with their biological family - all in my home with no regard for me. My husband did nothing.
I cannot stand my husband's adult children and I am disgusted by the way he allows them to dominate my space, my freedom, and my quality of life.
Other than divorce, I am forced to live in hell with his adult children running the show. His ex-wife continues to pry into our lives, making demands through her adult children on how I should allow them more privileges in my home. My adult skids are coddled, spoiled and absolutely prioritized above all else.
I am in therapy, have tried every form of communication and resolution humanly possible, and spend each waking hour trying to navigate this absolute nightmare.
The only way out is divorce as my husband refuses to put my needs, respect and requests first. I'm so lonely, depressed and overwhelmed. I don't know what else to do but pray.
I just moved to a new state. I am recovering from a debilitating spine injury. I am not employed. I have no biological family in my life. And I don't know anyone here. Every day is hard.
I am at the mercy of my husband and his decisions around his adult children in my home. I have nowhere to turn. I am in despair...
I'm just looking for some comfort, validation and hope...