OK, this post is from an "Idiot Man" who is nothing more than an "animal that is ready to lay down and die".
Or something like that. The title sentence is an amalgam of a couple of comments made in recent threads.
I would like to point out that there are a whole heck of a lot more stories about whack job BMs and SMs than BFs and SFs. If volume of issues is any indicator, us males are down right geniuses.
Ok, now that I have taken this one giant step for man, I will crawl back in to my idiot guy hole and keep my head down for a while as I am sure I have now convinced everyone that I am an idiot because I chose to open my big mouth.
:? This is the closest thing to an idiot face so I thought it was appropriate.
Respectfully,
The Idiot.
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You know, I don't think I've
You know, I don't think I've ever responded to your posts before. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think you have very valuable insight to share from a guy's perspective. I also think that you often just have good advice regardless of whether or not you're an idiot.
That being said, I would be much more receptive toward you if you quit using the term "sperm dad." See, coming from my perspective, that's very hurtful. My FH is spending about 2000/month. He brings home about 2400/month. Do the math. For that 2000/month, he sees his twins for 3 hours a week. Total. Every email from BM has his email saved as "sperm donor." It's very hurtful. It kind of goes along the same lines as calling every BM we don't like crazy. I'm just not a fan. Should our particular BM remarry someday, I hope she marries a nice guy who wants to do for the twins and be a part of their lives. At the same time, I would expect that he at least have enough respect for my FH to not call him "sperm donor." Now, my FH is probably a better participant in his kids' lives than your BD. However, reading that term is a big turn off to reading your posts IMHO, of course. }:)
To every thing there is a season.
I find no issues
in Rags referring to his SS dad as Sperm Donor. From what he has told us about him that seems to be what he is. My SS's BM called my H Sperm Donor to his face and it pissed us both off as we have SS almost 50/50, my H pays ALOT of child support, pays SS insurance, we supply all of SS school clothes, money for extracurricular activites, we take SS on vacations and give him many luxuries and that is just a few of the things we do for stepson bedsides trying to be good role models and teach him about life and how to be a good person who is a productive citizen. So for BM to call H sperm donor was aggrvating not because of the term but because she called him something that was not true. A while back another steptalker referred to her BM and Doody and all thought it was funny. I have a name for mine that I abbreviate to PHB. No I do not call her that to her face or in front of SS. I occassionally refer to her that way on this site and when i am with my close friends that know her and what I am dealing with. Everycase is different just as your H does not deserve to be called Sperm Donor neither did mine. But I feel fine in calling my BM the term PHB that I have dubbed her with as it is true and she continues to live up to the meaning of it each and everyday. In Rags case it seems as his SS's dad continues to live up to the term sperm donor as he does not pay for the cost to see his son his mother does he does not have the gumption to get on the phone with his sons mom to make arranagements to see his son his mom does when son is there he spends little to no time at all with his son rather his mom does. It seems that Rags ss's dad just pays child support causes trouble and offers no real help in raising and guidance of his son. And besides in the end even if what we call them is true isn't it really a name we call them to help us stress the point of how crappy they are. Just my thoughts on the matter.
No doubt the Donor designation does not apply to your DH.
You DH is obviously involved in his kids lives beyond just paying CS. Involved parents who put the best interest of the kids above all else are safe from the Donor designation.
Fortunately my SS's BioDad is not involved in SS's life beyond a very superficial level. More time with BioDad would do no good for my SS, in fact it would be far from positive. SS's BioDad has always been and remains a waste of skin.
How about Male/Female Genetic Contributor for those to whom the Donor title would apply? JJOC, I will attempt to stick to BioDad/Mom in the future.
Best regards,
i think the terms sperm and womb donor ARE offensive
however, in some cases, they are applicable, seemingly in rags' case. its the broad use of he term that makes it seem offensive.
regardless, this is a public forum and we all get our feelings hurt sometimes. though i dont know what happened to prompt the OP so im speaking in generals here
"Given the right reasons and the right two people, marriage is a wonderful way of experiencing your life."
~the late great George Carlin
I have been working on the Donor terms (Sperm and Womb)
Occasionally one slips through. I am a co-owner of another community whose members have never commented on those terms being offensive.
I will continue to transition to BioDad and BioMom rather than the Donor designations. The other community I am active in has actually noticed the transition in my wording and has commented on the change. No opinion one way or the other on the terms but they have noticed the change.
I will continue to work on it. However, some times no other terms will suffice so if one slips through occasionally I will apologize now in advance.
Best regards,
Rags, that has not gone
Rags, that has not gone unnoticed. Thank you for being so receptive to my thoughts. Greatly appreciated.
To every thing there is a season.
I refer to my wife as SHE WHO MUST BE OBAYED!
Then I put on my apron and go work on my Honey Do List. HA! Not likely. If my wife read this she would call me a liar.
I have had the same HDL for about the last 10 years and done none of it and probably wont ever.
What I do to keep myself alive is invest in some strategic jewelry, automotive and vacation purchases.
This means I keep my Man Card and awards from the Man Council and I keep my bling points up with the wife.
But, with this economy I may actually have to do the HDL.
Thanks for the comments ladies, or more appropriately THOSE WHO MUST BE OBAYED!
Best regards,
I don't think
that we should "evaluate" each others posts. Respond or don't respond to the posts but if we knit pick at each other it will inhibit people.
agreed angel signed, the
agreed angel
signed,
the chick who calls BM far worse than that on occasion!
from my SD, the reason we're going through it all....:
o, btw, my dad and *northernsiren* are the best family a girl(and boy) could ever hope for. Thank you for helpping me through these hard times.
RAGS!
We've been thru this before.
I think it's just fabulous that you took it upon yourself as not to offend... if we all shared this respect for each other, there would be no mindless bickering in this haven.
I think you have wonderful things to say and contribute! I think it shows a lot too that you were willing to take anabihibik's feelings into account (and mine from the PM I sent you months ago). I know that was never your intentions to offend. Just relay how you feel about worthless bio-parents...
And you are by far not an idiot... I also highly doubt that anybody else thinks so.
"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley
i'd say, go for it
vent away rags, that's why we're here, right? since spermdad probably doesn't visit this site, and you of course don't mean all non-custodial fathers, i don't find it offensive, but hilarious. sorry ladies, but i have to side with the MAN. our bms' refer to my fh along those lines and he finds it funny in a facetious sort of way. but bm/1 made it that way, and bm/2 had no clue who the bd was. it took her 8 yrs to find out in which we had no idea she existed.
PS i think what you do for your wife is on of the sweetest most selfless actions we can take. i hope she lets you know you're a princes among frogs
Rags - I MADE THAT COMMENT
Thank you for addressing the comment I made on one of the threads here. Let me point out that this is a place to vent and that is what I was doing - if you took it personally as to blog about the fact that there are more BM's out there that are a pain in the ass great but it was not an attack on you or men in general - I was pointing out the fact that there are a lot of men that do not like confrontation and would rather lay down and accept their fate then argue - and from seeing all the postings here it seems to be a fact. There are a lot of things that you talk about in your blogs that are quite offensive but I and others can choose not to reply to them or acknowledge them because that is the way that you choose to speak and how you see the world and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. So I am just popping out of my hole today to say what is good for the goose is good for the gander my dear.
Ema, no offense taken.
I was just playing along with the all men are idiots theme.
By definition I am an idiot since the last time I checked I am a man.
As the title line of this community says .... StepTalk Where Step Parents come to vent.
Please keep on venting. I know I will.
Best regards,
Rags!!! You are special :)
I know it is hard to be the only man in sea of women who are having trouble with their DH/FH/BFs "Getting It" It is so nice to have your input on here and i know it is probably hard to read all the men bashing all the time but we know that there are guys out there like you that stand up and BE A MAN! I say bravo - maybe you could hold a seminar for those guys that are just flopping over and not sticking up for themselves, their wives, g/f's kids, etc...you remind me of a great guy friend of mine who when i tell him some of the things I go through he always starts with EMA - first off let me apologize for my gender but you know we aren't all idiots!
Honorary SM?
Rags I am more confused by some of the terms you use but can usually get what you are saying. But I want to say too, I am glad you are here, braving the steps. We need at least one male perspective (where are you Steve?) so I hereby nominate you as an honorary SM - and when we say men are stupid you are hereby excluded!! To me you sound like a kind and thoughtful husband and sdad.
"A lie told often enough becomes the truth." - Vladimir Lenin
My DH isn't an idiot either
He's actually just about perfect as far as dealing with BM and SD goes. I'm here because even withOUT contact BM irritates the heck out of me, and I get really frustrated with SD - so I'm here to learn and be supportive.
And yes, some of the vitriol being slung around has made me squirm a couple times. But I try to take it in the spirit it's made. Honestly, some of the behavior that has been described makes me wonder what such great people see in these men. They're not talking about MY DH, so I let it go.