Rock and hard place
Wow what an insane weekend.
After the bowling incident on Saturday night with SD13(see last blog post), I think SO felt kinda bad. We had a pretty good Sunday morning and everything was going smooth. We had some running around to do in the afternoon so the 3 of us were going to go. SD goes upstairs to get ready and comes down again with way to much makeup on (big issue for SO) so he tells her to go upstairs and take it off. She argues ofcourse but he stands his ground and she goes up to take it off. I go upstairs to finish getting ready and go into the hall closet and find all the drawers open and my eye makeup remover is gone. Well she obviously knows that im going to freak so she leaves the bathroom quickly and goes into her room. I follow her and see that she's about to put it in her makeup bag, obviously shes trying to hide it so I don't lose it! I ask for it back and she gives it to me and I tell her as calmly as possible that this is the LAST time this is happening. She is NOT to touch my stuff without asking me and i'm not kidding anymore and am so sick of this. I was infuriated. For those of you who don't know me, she continually goes into the closet, my room etc and takes my things without asking and it drives me nuts to no end. I went into the bathroom to finish my hair and I couldn't do it anymore. I went downstairs and told SO. I'm sick of hiding from how how fucking annoying his kid is. I told him that she keeps taking my stuff and ive told her a thousand times and she just doesn't listen and he needs to do something NOW! I went upstairs and could hear him yelling at her because she just doesn't get it. She doesn't understand boundaries and doesn't understand the concept of asking for things.
SO is starting to get extremely frustrated with her on a constant basis. Every 2 minutes its something. Asking for something, complaining about something, interrupting, arguing, not doing what she told, taking stuff she's not supposed to, making a mess. He gives her such a hard time because it is literally every 2 minutes shes doing something wrong or frustrating him about something.
She got in shit about something else later on in the day when we got home and he lost it on her and sent her up to her room and I could see he was ready to break down.
He doesn't understand why she doesn't get it. Why she doesn't just do what shes told.
I explained to him that the main problem is there are NO boundaries at BM's house. She is put on a pedestal and can do whatever she wants. She can act how she wants, wear what she wants, take what she wants, say what she wants and literally do whatever she wants and BM says nothing. Theres no dinner time rules (elbows off the table, don't burp, don't say its gross), no bedtime, no phone or internet restrictions, no chores. She is the adult in that house and rules it. BM doesn't want to be a mom, she wants to be her friend.
It's not entirely SD13's fault. We only have her EOW and now Tuesdays. I can imagine It would be incredibly difficult to go from being at one house for 2 weeks that has no rules, to a house that is not necessarily strict, but a house with rules and expectations and boundaries.
Has anyone else experienced this? We have tried to talk to BM about it but she wont do anything. She says things are fine at her house so she doesn't care what goes on at ours. I just don't know how we can get her to understand that there are certain expectations of her when she's at our house. I mean she's getting in trouble from SO all the time because she just keeps messing up. I just don't know what to do besides just give up and let her do what she wants for 4 days a month.....I feel like we are stuck
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Not really but I understand
Not really but I understand your frustration. We have two older teen SS's move in with us FT last year. After the BM brought them up as lazy, slobs who are such picky eaters it makes me ill. The age is tough too.
I wonder if you have her write out your house rules herself? She can make a poster and you guys can help her?
I also get it that you are not happy about your SO. Mine seems to think since the "boys" don't really get into trouble, he doesn't make them do anything.
It has caused a lot of crap in our marriage that is for sure. Good luck to you!
This is absolutely great
This is absolutely great advice. Heres my rock and hard place...
- losing 1 makeup...BM would freak and just go buy her new makeup. So she wouldn't care
- Loss of communication devices...she already is not allowed anything at our house. She has had VERY SERIOUS issues with the internet in the past and shes not allowed on the computer at our house. She is also not allowed to bring her cell phone to our house (also very serious issues)
- Chores...we've done this one before. Its usually if you leave your dishes out then you load and unload the dishwasher all weekend. She bitches about it but will just leave her stuff out again the next day.
I just feel like there is no consequence we can give this kid that will make her stop.
I mean she literally just doesn't get it. Or just doesn't care. I can't tell. Sometimes I think maybe there is something wrong with her and she doesn't have the ability to process information and doesn't understand. She will get in trouble for something and then its like she forgot and will do the same thing 10 minutes later and then not understand why shes getting in trouble.
No you are right. He's not
No you are right. He's not consistent all the time. I think its just because he's so tired of it being every minute of the day, but that's no excuse.
I just don't understand her thinking. Every single time she comes to our house she is told to take the excessive makeup off her face and to wear appropriate clothes. He let's her wear makeup but this kid looks like a clown most of the time so he makes her take some off. She always says "you are always giving me a hard time about everything". A simple solution to me, if you didn't want to get in shit all the time, would be to just NOT wear that much makeup at our house, since you are told at least 3 times over the weekend to take it off. Its every. single. weekend. Times that by 2 years since she started wearing makeup and you would think she would get it!!!!!! She doesn't.
I even try to help her out sometimes. Ill see her in the bathroom doing her makeup and ill say "make sure you don't wear too much or your dad will just tell you to take it off" and she just does it anyways. I will warn her that her dad isn't going to like her shirt and will tell her to change and she wears it anyways.
If she wants to go to a friends or a dance or something I will tell her, ill talk to your dad about it, don't bug him a million times about it. Ask him once and then wait for his answer or he wont let you go. She proceeds to ask him about it over and over again and then he gets mad and tells her she cant go.
I mean WTF? It's like she just doesn't have the ability to learn!!! Which wouldn't surprise me if that was the case, since she has so many issues with school.
OMG I just cant take it.....is it too early for wine??? LOL
It's tough, that's for sure.
It's tough, that's for sure. We used to have SD EOWE when we lived in NJ and GUBM was the uber permissive "I'm not your parent, I'm your frieeeeeeeeeend!" type of mom (she still tries this to this day). Even when we moved out to PGH and had SD for longer stretches of time, it was still difficult. Because GUBM let SD do whatever she wanted at home and never set boundaries or restrictions on her. Her only expectations were to do her homework before dinner. She had no bedtime, had no house rules, had no chores or anything.
I would say just have SO stick his guns and tell SD that he doesn't care what she's allowed to do at BM's, because his house is not BM's house and the rules are different. But, I know from my own experiences that my SD hated that. She rebelled and pushed back hard, to the point where GUBM was successful in alienating her from us and where SD was saying she didn't want to come out to our place anymore. Like, GUBM messed her up so much that SD equated me telling her to turn lights off when she's done in a room to verbal abuse -_- *sigh*
SD must have had some kind of wake up call between this past June and November, because I guess she realized that GUBM wasn't all she was cracked up to be - no matter how permissive she is. SD still has problems following the house rules, but, we address them with her regularly to make sure she knows that simply wanting to be here isn't enough to get her off the hook of living up to our meager expectations.
And I'm not sure if it would work for your SD, but, we use consequences and rewards for SD, and I think that's important, you can't just always 'punish' for wrong behavior, you gotta reward the good behavior, too. When she meets our expectations, we verbally praise her. When she exceeds our expectations, she gets something fun - like an outing, extra screen media time, dinner of her choice, stuff like that. When she fails to meet our expectations, she faces a consequence.
I think SO is too hard on her
I think SO is too hard on her sometimes but I understand his frustration and I back him. He was raised in a very strict house where you just do what you are told, end of story. When he and BM were together SD was not like this. She had rules and was well behaved and wasn't constantly getting into trouble. Once they broke up and she lived with BM full time everything went to crap. Everything that he had taught her was thrown out the window and she was not taught anything new. Its not even just necessarily doing bad things. It's little things like manners, social skills, and just general respect for yourself and others. She doesn't have any of that. She spills something and walks away, she burps and doesn't say excuse me, she constantly interrupts when you are having a conversation, she tries to make everything about her, she says inappropriate or rude things that make people think she is special (for lack of better word), she constantly just wants wants wants. That's just the beginning of it as well as not doing what she's told.
Its just so frustrating to try and deal with another issue every 2 minutes when its going to do us no good because anything we tell her is going to be undone by BM in a few days.
SD is doing all of these
SD is doing all of these frustrating things for your and DH's attention. She wants everything to be about her, and negative or positive, she's going to make sure they are. The biggest punishment for her will be to take all the attention off her for the weekend. She is bratty? Okay, she can spend time alone in her room, no talks, no explanation, no yelling, just alone time. EVERY TIME. Even make her eat dinner alone in her room. Think about it, this weekend was all about her, about her wearing skimpy clothes, about her texting or whatever, about her attitude, about her looks, about her taking things from you. Even when SO made her go to bed early, his mood was still down because he was thinking about her behavior. Some kids even prefer negative attention to positive because you spend a lot more time on a kid who is being difficult than one who is easy.
Also, when she asks about her looks, just start saying cheesy quotes like, "True beauty is on the inside" and stuff like that.