I could get a criminal record tommorow
Well if you read my help blog you would have heard about the first incident, the sencond happened easter thursday, she again came to get the kids and got out of her car came stompin to the door. i opened the side window and said the kids are on their way out you can go back to your car (where she is suppose to wait) and sshe started f..u i am not going back to my car.
not wanting a repeat of the week before i said dont make me come out there...she said come on b.....get out here then.
i did.
i proceeded out the back door standing on top of the deck with her at the bottom of the stairs and said what the hell is your problem? your looking for trouble, and we dont want any, go back to your car, the kids are getting their jackets on and they will be right out.
she said (colorfully) i am not leaving until my children are at my feet, i said you know, this isnt the way its gonna be, you need to learn a lesson on how things work.
we are not sending the kids out, until your back in your car...she started to dial the police, i said what are you doing, she says you wont give me my kids, i am calling the police, i am floored...
i turn and go back in to the house (full of company) witness i spose and dh says whats she doing, i said calling the police, the 12 year old sd hears this and breaks into hysterics (did i mention it was her birthday we were celebrating)
i go back outside and say you could make this easy on everyone if you would stop being confrontational, and i hear her say to the police on the phone, yes he has guns, and i am afraid....
i nearly crapped my drawers...
i went back inside and started dialing myself, to say get me the cop she is on the line with, this is ridiculous...
in a matter of moments because the kids were so tramatized dh shoves them out the door and she takes off like a bat outa hell.
the cop calls me back and says, what happened i explain, she is jelous, she is threatened by me, she isnt getting her own way, and she hasnt let go, he says i will speak to her.
a hour later he calls back to say, she couldnt even say for sure why she called.
we figure well, maybe she has realized that was stupid.
wednesday i am at work, and along comes the sherriff to serve me with notice she has applied for a restraining order against me, in her statement she says she saw a lawn edger leaning on the house and it was within my reach, therefore she fears for her life and that of her childrens since she thinks i will take out my anger on them.
i appear tommorow to justify why i shouldnt have one.
i seen a lawyer hired my own, so not only are we paying dh divorce lawyer now i pay 800 bucks to have him appear for me, and make this go away hopefully since we kept all her emails and the ones i sent her, which were absolutley pleasant, the judge will see throught this, but seriously, i said to my dh, i am not sure your worth this.
i need some inspiring thoughts or strength, cause right now, despite how awesome he is to me, i dont know if i need crap to this extent in my life.
i did this with my own and learned, not wanting to walk that road again.
an ex, kids, support, ya, i can do that, step parenting, all the daily stuff, ya...i can do that too....but this shit,..........come on, i feel stupid i havent drawn the line.....am i crazy? i got my own kids to think about...i have never been to her house, never called her, she is causing trouble at my home, and she is getting the restraining order.....nice huh....i threatened to get one against her after the first incident but dh and lawyer said it would agrivate the sitation.i am ready to give up...
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Why Is It?
That when it comes for us SM's who had enough and want to fight back and not be abused then we are "aggravating the situation". Wow I feel for you. Do what is best to protect yourself!!! It is my experience that everyone is thinking about the "Best Interests of the Children" and not making the situation worse for the Dad but not what is good for the SM.
I guess I am not a good one to give you advice because I am fed up myself and already told my DH I am out the door. If feel like I am running to save my life. Sometimes love just isn't enough. Good luck in court and keep us posted. Hopefully the Judge will see through the BM and give her a piece of mind.
Why worry about the lady getting out of the car?
When BM got out of the car, instead of a confrontation why not just have the kids go out? This sounds like a control issue that got out of control and became far more than it needed to be. Why are you so involved with this sk/bm situation? Why did your DH not deal with it as he sees fit so that you can stay out of the frontline of the situation? Sometimes we create trouble for ourselves that we don't need to have happen.
I don't agree
See the BM obviously overstepped her bounds at the SM's house. It sounds to me like a no win situation. She can one let the BM come to the door and cause a scene or tell BM to stay in the car and the kids come out. It is your home not hers and she needs to respect that. Proceding to go to the front door and stepping on your property after being told to stay put is trespassing!!!
Listen you don't have to have your home as the pickup and drop off place for visitation. Last week my husband refused to have BM pick the kids up at our home for fear she will cause just that type of unnecessary scene. We had the pickup and drop off at a very public place along with witness's to be there to watch. The Invaders (BM's adult children) just a few weeks ago were taking upon themselves to drop in anytime of the night demanding to see the kids after their bedtime. My Attorney clearly told me as the owner of my own home that I do not have to allow thier interference. Let DH drop off the children somewhere other than your home and BM pick the children up from DH somewhere other than your home. You don't have to be in the middle of that mess. If it is inconveinant for both DH and BM for them to do so. NOT YOUR PROBLEM!!! Your child and yourself won't have to deal with it. You don't have to have contact with BM at all!
I agree...
It would be better to have the pick up/drop off somewhere else then getting into a power struggle with kids. The part that I don't get is why don't the DHs take care of these issues so that the SM doesn't have to?! That is the part that I don't get. Why do the SMs always have to do the dirty work?!
Good Question
Why do we do it to ourselves or allow DH's to dump that crap on us? I decided when it came to BM arguing with her is a no win situation as well however BM or not the BM to the children if she dares to step foot on my property she is toast. I will have no problems calling the police and having her butt arrested. My house my rules.
It is a shame to have to do that because I had another SD from another marriage and her BM and I are like sisters. I love her to death. She is a wonderful person and she, her daughter, and her Grandmother would come stay at my house all of the time back then. I don't understand why my husbands ex just doesnt think about what is best for her children and stop this control crap.
Agree with stamina
Sounds like DH needs to take kids to a neutral location & they (BM &BD) do the handoff. Why should you have to put up with her crap? We (SM's) do the dirty work b/c we as women feel compelled to "make it all right" and insure the kids are safe. Madison, if DH won't be present to handoff the kids, draw yourself a hot bath, get some good magazines & soak your frustrations away...just physically remove yourself, that will make DH do the work. (Don't tell him, just disappear...he'll get the message.) Chances are he is parked in front of the TV watching sports while you are scrambling to get their stuff together to send them back to BM. Let him do that, if they forget their stuff, too bad, so sad, they will remember it next time. We SM are enablers sometimes...I truly think we need to take a step back & quite making it so easy for the BD's...let them do their job!!!
yep your right but...
we have agreed to a nuetral location for today because we cant have her out here, altho she refuses anyways because she fears for her safety.
the ongoing issues are with the terms of the order.
one of which is the receiving parent picks up. she didnt like that,she wants dad to run. we live 20 miles out and its a pain, his income is less than hers, its my vehicles my gas, dh is in school to be a cop which i am supporting him for. so...he makes enough to pay his child support, but i float the boat for everything else. i drew that line. and he agreed. fair both ways...for each parent because we live in the country, we commute together, but sometimes i leave work and because of time i have to get the kids first (god forbid we are late) thats where she came up with i am not on the pick up list and she refuses to put me on it. we are now going to court with reasonable assurance a judge will grant us this....so...what better way to ensure she gets what she wants but create this situation.
everything is money and control driven with her. if she has a restraining order against me, no judge will put that in the order....
dad does try to get the bags ready and have them at the door, but he usually says get your stuff together an hour ahead, and almost everytime something is forgotten and then he runs because the children beckon on my dime....
happen just this past friday she called and said dad i need my jump rope for heart evelope with one name and 2 bucks, i said honey, tell your teacher you will bring it monday, or get another evelope and we will give you the two bucks on the weekend. none of them were options, because the mom wont use them. if that were me, i would never let my kid be in that situation, i would take responsibility to make it right with the school myself, and never expect dad to come running....but...thats the difference between me and her.
instead, i let him take the car was without all day, so he could run to the school over 2 dollars. his guilt has created this situation. she fuels it constantly.
Madison
"change occurs within"
I TOTALLY get this -- if you
I TOTALLY get this -- if you back out and let DH handle it all, it totally messes with YOUR life later: things forgotten, no car. Then DH is gone, running around to fix while you two should be living your life together. I emphathize. That is really the rub, isn't it? You can't really live with the advice not to be involved--to some extent you can; I often absent myself at drop-offs/pick-ups. But I am involved in getting everything ready in advance, and reminding DH what needs to be discussed/exchanged, etc., or else I suffer for it later. That's my solution -- help ahead of time, and then go for a walk or do something else that feels good while the exchange occurs.
Let him deal with it though
Why not let your DH deal with all of this? I agree with a previous post, be busy when this pick up of kids occurs so that you are in no way involved. Step parenting is stressful enough without adding more to it.
Seems that in a lot of these situations, the stepmoms are doing a lot, often making the cash, supporting the family, etc. That is all well and good BUT what do these guys DO?
RE:
I hate to say it but I agree with stamina. A lot of this situation could have been avoided if you had just either let DH deal with it or ignored her. I understand that it feels like she's crossing a boundary being on your front porch waiting for her kids, but there's no need to address it when she's standing right there. That's really only asking for trouble and you know it, because you can't honestly expect this irrational, power-tripping woman to be like "Ok, you're the boss I'll go wait in my car...". I realize that it's your house and your territory but honestly this is not a battle worth fighting. And if it is something that truly gets to you and you just can't accept, then let your DH bring it up at a time that she will be able to discuss it and not start a scene.
Not getting a restraining order prior to this is a decision that you and DH made together in the hopes that things would get better, knowing that if you did so, things would only get worse. You are right, the courts will see through what she's doing because they generally know when they're dealing with BS from a jealous ex-wife. My advice to you right now would be just to lay low, keep communication open between you and DH, and let him fight the battles from now on. Obviously this woman feels threatened by you and will use every opportunity to exercise her power over you. Pick ups and drop offs can and should be made without you being there. It may make you feel like you're giving in and letting her win, but try not to let yourself think that way. Right now you need to exercise a little damage control and avoid situations that are going to screw things up even further.
I'm not trying to sound like I'm harping or bossing you around, these are all just my thoughts and suggestions. Keep us posted on how things go.
*~So sayeth Nymh~*
i understand about where you are at with dh
I do understand about your personal situation with dh, i.e. school & limited budget. But too often we get ourselves wrapped up in a situation which tends to perpetuate itself. We pitch in & help out in an "unusual circumstance" which then becomes routine. I just think we, as SM, need to think through each time we choose to get involved. I know how frustrating it must be to be without your vehicle over a situation that you would NEVER let your kids get away with. I really feel bad for you & DH. But, perhaps when emotions are running smoother, you should hammer out a "what if" situation, what if child forgets something they (SK) perceives as important but responding to it impacts your budget & time. It's hard to anticipate, but sometimes, even the BD needs to have an "accident at the intersection" before they "get it." Unfortunately, we SM usually pay the price either is $$, time or emotional turmoil. I just think we (and I'm including myself) tend to propagate some of our turmoil as a result of over involvement in the details. We are all like. We are so used to taking care of EVERYTHING at all times, that when it comes time to step back, it is super hard to do. But I clearly think you need to give yourself some emotional boundaries so you don't run yourself over the edge. I truly WISH I had done it when I was going through it. But when you are in the thick of things, it's hard to get perspective. Whether they are our BK or SK, by nature, kids are a trial & challenge, it's when there are several sets of rules or lack of rules that it compounds itself. Good luck & hang in there....we are here to support & listen!
thanks to each and every one of you
your probably right, well, not probably you are. i spent the day crying, not sure why, maybe because i feel i am at the end of my rope, or because i have no control, becauase i want it to go away and the easiest way is to cut dh loose, cause i am frustrated, beaten, deflated, and tired...i am not really sure. i said to my dh i think i am having some kindo of breakdown, i used to be fun, rationl,felt like my life was all together, and since this situation has erupted for the worse a year ago, i feel like i am sliding down a hill fast with nothing to grab on to.
i feel like to pack my bags and leave, but its my house....my life...i dont want to toss him on his ear, cause he dosent deserve my anger, altho i truly in my heart beleive he swept this under the carpet for so long and then it all comes to a head. he tried in his own way, but it wasnt helping. because i have been there done that, i tried to tell him but he had to learn the hard way and i feel it was at my expense. i truly thank god i found this site, and you guys, who are dealing with the same stuff in different times, that hopefully i can learn from. i appreciate all your points of views and opinions even tho they might sting, those are usually the ones that we need to hear the most...
i am still crying, still overwhelmed, but you have given me some directions on what i need to do next. small steps...one day at a time.
thanks alot from the bottom of my heart.. for caring enough about a stranger to take the time to give your opinion.
they have left, dh and kids...i am gonna throw myself into my own kids and go do something with them, since i spent most of the day in bed wallowing.
have a good rest of your sunday, i am gonna do my best to pull my head outa my ass and do the same.
bye for now...
Madison
"change occurs within"
Way to Go Girl!!!
You're gonna' be ok. We've all spent the day(s) sobbing & wallowing in our messes. That's part of the process, our bodies way of saying "whoa, hold on, time to let it all out"....
Hang in there...we love you and understand..whatever you decide, we will support you & be here for you.
Have a great week!
Each day is a new start!!
Scary
Its scary that someone can file a restraining order when they were the ones perpetuating the problem to begin with. She is just trying to push your buttons to cause this drama. I know how hard it is maintain composure, believe me I have to do this three times a week when I go with BF to spend time with the girls. The best you can do is take some witness from that day and get the order squashed. I would then turn it back on her and get an order of protection for her not to be able to come on the property, then if she gets out of her car you can call the cops and have her removed. It would be so nice if we didnt have to waste energy on jealous, petty, insecure people!!!
File for a Restraining Order of Your Own
It sounds like you are the one who actually needs it. File for a restraining order against her and also file to ammend the custody agreement that all exchanges of the children must be held at a neutral public place. Then don't go to the exchange. Don't deal with her at all. It's really the only way to make it work.
update a year later.....
hey ladies, not sure how many are still here, i am back tho.
its been a long year.
i wish i could say much has changed but no.
she is still the same altho we have managed to draw some lines in the sand that helps.
i had a meltdown and booted dh out. of course i didnt really want that, i just wanted the drama to stop. it did a world of good for both of us, he now realizes how much i actually did, and sheilded him from since we now have him doing all his own dirty work, including paying for his own gas for the extra trips to town because he gives in to their beck and call, and all pickups and exchanges.
the crappy part is she is still desperately trying to draw me in...(us) but in particular me.
yesterday we return from a highway trip home from my sons 3 hours away with all our girls his two my two.
we both are dropping our kids, mine at my ex's house, which goes unbelievable smooth as usual, and we meet her at the local tim hortons at 5pm every second sunday to return the kids. since our new arrangement this is the first time i have had to be present since we usually plan it otherwise but just arriving home, having to drop my girls as well for the spring break holiday. of course she knows this, as her girls told her we would be out of town. so, she texts messages my phone to say she hurt her back and cant get out of bed bring the kids to her home.
of course, with the restraining order i cant go near there, or wont.
she gives no option bring them here, or send them home in a cab
my ex not wanting to do the latter, we are in town trying to explain to the kids why their mother isnt there and why we cant just drop them off.
we decided after several text messages from her and her attempting to call her daughters cell phone to give her dad further instructions (since we dont ever speak to her verbally only by email or text) she says keep them til she recovers.
well being spring break, my kids are with my ex because i have to work, we fiqure we will call the kids daycare and see if we can drop them in the morning.
the daycare now realizing full well what she is like and becomming a great allie for us, says bring them here, we will take them home for you......
boy was the ex wife pissed at that.
altho we didnt ask the daycare to do this, we sure apprecited their help getting out of the jam.
advice i got from the local help line says call the police but of course what kind of freaks would we sound like saying mom wont take them back.
this is the third time in 3 months (since xmas) she refuses to take them back or be home for them when she is scheduled to do so, leaving us without a plan, as she says we cant take them to daycare cause its not "our arrangement" course the daycare is more than willing to help out, offering to do the exchages for us, but now the ex threatens she is pulling them out of daycare as of june.
the ex states to us she is having the daycare draft a letter stating she doesnt want to be involved in drop offs.
when we explained to the daycare the ex got a letter for court stating she is more than happy to facilitate the exchanges...further really pissing her off.
so, i am at a loss. we have no contact with her besides email we have pressed the issues to make the exchanges nuetral and with no contact what so ever and she is mad..and unwilling.
yet she claims she is afraid of me needing the restraining order making it impossible for me to be of any help to dh in his absence while working.
oh, and after he graduated from police school he made it down to the top 5 candidates in the competition and was eliminated based on the background history in particular the interveiw with his ex wife who states she is afraid of him, doesent think he should carry a gun, he is a deadbeat behind in child support and dishonest to his word.
i hoped they would take her comments in context from an ex, but she must have been convincing.
anyways,
just wanted to say hi, i am so glad you guys are hear, in the last year during the tough times i think of you all, and wondered how i would have come thru all this without this site and your time to make comments good bad and otherwise.
hopefully a new order by summer, having a pretrial in about 6 weeks so hoping for some progress.
who knows, after all the evidence maybe a change in custody...lol
okay who am i kidding....lool
i am gonna go read around and see what everyone has been up to on here.
chat soon all.
Madison
"change occurs within"