I was a PASling (anyone else?)
It is only since I joined this site that I figured out what happened to my brother and I as children. I didn't understand the pattern before, but I now realize that we were PASlings.
My parents never got a divorce (they are still married) but my mother was a stay at home mom and PASed the living hell out of both of us.
This is how it went:
My mother, brother, and I all slept on the living room floor together until I was 11 (my brother was 9). My mother told us she didn't want us to have to be "alone."
My mother turned my father into the bad guy by arguing with him in front of us about every time he wanted to discipline us.
My mother let us do whatever we want all day long every single day (we were homeschooled). Then dad was the bad guy who "made us work" whenever he got home from his job.
My mother told us about every bad thing my dad had ever done to her, even before we were born.
My mother told us about how many times my dad had cheated on her, and insisted he was STILL cheating on her.
My mother told us my dad had diseases (not true) from sleeping around with random women and that we shouldn't drink from his cup or eat off his plate because we might catch HIV.
My mother told us that our father would not care if we all died in a car accident.
My mother told us she was afraid our father might kill her.
My mother told us she couldn't do anything about the horrendous abuse she suffered at my father's hands because he would take us away. Or because he would remarry to some woman who would be mean to us. Or because she wouldn't be there to protect us from him during "visitation" after the divorce.
My mother told us he loved the people at his workplace more than he loved us.
My mother told us that our father would never be a real father and that she thought (and secretly hoped) that her fertility doctor had used his own sperm to impregnate her instead of our father's sperm.
My mother told us that our father was no better than a dog, and wanted to have sex with anything that moved--including other men--and that he was having an affair with my piano instructor (a married man with five kids).
The list continues. I guess the point is that I am just now realizing how bad this PAS thing can really be, and the extent of the horrible things that a mother can claim. My mother's nonsense really affected my relationship with my dad. He had his own real problems as a parent at the time, but I now understand how much my mother was contributing to the situation.
Anyone else had experiences with this?
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I am sort of coming to terms
I am sort of coming to terms with how crazy we must have been.
The problem is that I believed everything my mother told me. Completely. There was never so much as a single doubt about her motives or her stories because she had already spent her entire life framing herself as "the good guy."
Good GOD! Who does that...??
Good GOD! Who does that...?? That's sooooo awful!!! Sorry you all went through this...
I can't say I've been through this...I actually experienced the opposite...My dad DID do the stuff your mom said your dad did...He beat her...cheated on her...brought home STDs...The whole nine yards, and she never PAS'd him...They were only married for 7 years...I didn't learn about all the stuff he did to my mom (other than the beating...he didn't have a problem doing that in front of us), until I was a lot older from other people...(even after their divorce he'd torment my mom...)
My mom said it wouldn't have done us any good to know all of that stuff...She was confident that we'd develop our own view of him based on his actions (which we did)...Even through all she endured, she made us respect him as our father...(something we did until we were adults and could tell him to go pound sand)...
I confronted her about this a
I confronted her about this a few weeks ago, and she came up with a bunch of nonsense excuses for it. She has actually gotten worse over the years, and just last month tried to convince DH and I that my father had "ditched her" at the hardware store to have sex with some random guy in the men's bathroom.
I have no idea why she says these things, and I can't even begin to imagine why she thought it was appropriate to tell young children these sorts of things.
She also made a habit of telling us that my father used her for sex and that he was "bad in the sack" and that they had to use lubricants because he wouldn't take the time to get her in the mood.
My brother was like 8 years old when she told us that. Poor guy. I literally have no idea why she would say that stuff.
Why is your father still with
Why is your father still with her if she says these things? Just wondering mainly.
Sorry you had to go through that and still are, maybe your mom is bi polar or something.
I'm not sure he knows. But
I'm not sure he knows.
But even if he did, he would not want a divorce because she will get 50% of everything. He's obsessed with money, so that's unacceptable.
Additionally, I think he wants someone to take care of him. Even while she says all this stuff, when it's just the two of them she becomes extremely maternal toward him and assumes a parent type role with him as the child that can't take care of itself.
They have an extremely bizarre relationship. And I think my mom does probably have some sort of mental disorder. It's so important to for her believe that he might be doing something horrible and bad. I don't think she even believes he is doing it, but he COULD do it, and therefore she ought to be upset and mad and scandalized over it.
I am still stunned that I had
I am still stunned that I had absolutely no doubts about any of the things she said. It was like the word of God. I was always blown away by the things she told us, but I believed her completely.
I am just now realizing the extent of the PAS and how serious it was. As I got older, I started to understand that she was full of it, but I never recognized why she was doing it until now.
And it just makes BM and her PAS in progress that much more frightening. I understand exactly what's going on and why the kids seem so confused and it's terrifying to know that they probably believe everything their mother is telling them.
I'm wondering if your parents
I'm wondering if your parents have some form of a folie a duex where the disorders from one parents affect the other parent but that second parent would be totally fine if not for buying in to the first parent's disorders. Just a thought. But I'm glad you can see things for yourself now.