'I can't see what your problem is'
Hey everyone, first time posting and I'm afraid I've come to vent!!
Bit of background, I've been with my husband 6 1/2 years and between us we have 4 young adults
Both of us split with our exes years ago when the kids were much younger
My kids both live away from home, they work hard and have a good social life, including coming to see us and they both get on well with their stepdad. My stepkids are the opposite, the 22 year old has never done a days work and his 20 year old will randomly stop acknowleging my existance for a month or two at a time. It's a power play, if my husband says anything they will just stop all contact. They live about a mile away with their mum and we have always tried to be welcoming of them to our home (a thankless task as they are sullen and rude and do not engage in conversation at all)
So the latest thing was that his daughter was using our kitchen to bake while we were both out at work. I wasn't particularly keen on this but it was put on me in a 'you'd be fine if it was your kids' kind of way. When I got home the front door was wide open, no one around. As I walked to my house his ex-wife came out, went back in and then scurried past me saying hello and sorry! Now this is a woman who has barely spoken 10 words to me in the whole time I have been in her kids lives, taken them on holiday, dropped them home etc.
His daughter then comes out and says hello, thank you and gets in her mum's car and they go
She then sends me a text saying sorry if it was awkward and she sends her dad a text saying they had just left and that I had seen her mum helping her carry from 'the front door to the car' - she actually took the time to type out a lie, both about her mum being in my house and the fact they were both empty handed and not loading the car at all!
My husband thinks I am overreacting and will not see that anyone but me is in the wrong here - he even said, what if she was just using the loo? Go home and use your own lady! She has never so much as acknowledged we're married but now she can come into my house when I'm not there and have a look around?!!
I'm fuming but I know, as we all do, that it will get me nowhere. So thank you for hearing me...I'm sure someone out there will know how I feel x
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Ex wife in your home.. uh..
Ex wife in your home.. uh.. NO..
I would not back down on that one. I would clearly tell your husband that while you don't necessarily have a huge issue with his adult daughter visiting your home, you DO have a problem with her being their alone and bringing her mother with her.
If mom was around, why not use HER kitchen in the home not far away?
I would also tell him that his daughter's story is not entirely truthful because you literally saw his EX in the home and she and the daughter were emptyhanded coming out. So, the story that he was told was a lie. If it really was a case of "gee.. mom had to use the bathroom badly dad.. I know you probably wouldn't have liked that she came in... but it was an emergency".. why not say THAT vs coming up with "stories" about some other way they want it to be spun when you saw them with your own eyes.
They live about a mile away
That's the problem
They think y'all are like neighbors so why not come in and borrow some brown sugar
I always informed the Disneyland dad I dealt with that his kids be lying .... and he knew his kids lied
Those kids weren't about to lie on me and create serious false allegations that affect my livelihood
Call out every single one of their lies with irrefutable evidence .... nip it in the bud or they will keep lying even stoop low to lie on you!
Mature response = "Look here Betty and Betty Jr when I said y'all were welcome in our home that was referring to invitation only - Bob and I do not allow people over when we're not home. Please respect that or law enforcement will be called and we will press charges for trespassing"
Petty response = Set up some motion activated gun shot audio or rabid dog audio near the entryways. Leave some d!Ldos, whips n chains, nud3 blow up dolls, and seggs swings out in the open. Bet they won't dare have the audacity to traipse into your home uninvited again
*change the locks and/demand adult skids return the house key since they show they cannot be trusted with said house key
I recommend the escalating misery model. Much like you outlined.
I got the largest dog I could find
BM hates dogs. I love them.
It would be a hill to died on
Change the locks SD. has no access to your home. Letting BM into your home is a big NO. No is a sentence. DH Not understanding this is a major problem for you. Time to make DH do re decorating now. He has to paint the inside of the house and buy new furniture.
If the step kids are 20 and
If the step kids are 20 and 22 then I definitely agree to rekey the locks. At this age they visit more like an adult guest. If they're coming to visit and see you they can call in advance and arrange visits. You can make it known to them that their mom isn't allowed in your house whatsoever. My ex would never dream of stepping foot into my house and vice versa. It should be like a strangers house to them.
I feel heard, thank you
Thank you all, it's so good to be heard and understood!
I just can't get over how easily the narrative is changed to make it my problem and no one elses
I know that he knows they're lies, he just doesn't want the ensuing sh*tshow, but sometimes I think that storm just has to break..
Keys have been returned and I'm never having a repeat!
Good for you! Welcome to this
Good for you! Welcome to this site this is a very safe place to vent as weve all had some very challenging times with our step kids and we get it.
The narrative only changes if
The narrative only changes if you force it. He needs to learn that the shit storm you bring down on him will be far more painful that the the light stinky breeze that his failed family baggage wafts through your lives.
Escalation and delivery of abject misery drives behavioral change. It works with toxic Skids, toxic Xs, and sadly when necessary it works with a dim life partner.
his 20 year old will randomly
They will just stop contact..exactly who said this? Her or your husband? If it's your husband I would give him a firm reminder that if his child refuses to come by because she won't be respectful to you then that is the problem of the CHILD and not your problem or issue. That you deserve respect in your home first and foremost. If his kids don't visit due to that then of well he can see them outside of the house. He can't make his kids rudeness into a problem that affects you. He should demand respect and kindness toward you if he needs to. Doesn't he want his kids to treat you nicely?
And if daddy does not have
And if daddy does not have the balls to demand his kids behave respectfully, then the SM has to have the testicular fortitude to do it and scrub both daddy's and his nasty spawn's noses in that stench.
How naive can a guy be? She
How naive can a guy be? She was there to snoop and that's why both of them were so flustered when they saw you.
Just wanted to add when he
Just wanted to add when he says "I don't see what your problem is".. This is a cop out response. He's trying to make issues your problem. The problem is not you. He's phrasing it that way to make you stop talking about it or doubt yourself
The best thing to do is focus on stating the FACTS. Phrase it is the behavior that is NOT OK.
The problem is that the kids mom is NEVER allowed in our house due to privacy reasons. We need to address this together.
The problem is the kids are being rude to me in my household. This is not ok. We need to discuss how this is a major problem.
Not to mention, gaslighting.
Absolutely beat the snot out of him with the facts. Lather....rinse..... repeat.
Yes
... and OP, also let him know that one day next week, your ex husband or boyfriend is gonna come by and do some laundry while both of you are at work. No big deal, right?
Exactly. Mirror his behavior
Exactly. Mirror his behavior and see how he likes it.
Thank you!
Thank you!
None of the kids have got keys - we moved here last year and decided not to go down that road so it is across the board on that
My husband dropped the key to her the day before for this favour
Going forward I have explained that my feelings need to come first in my house
I think he was quite surprised by my reaction as I am always trying to make sure ours is a welcoming home for his kids to visit but I won't be made to feel like an intruder in my own home again!
I would be telling him.
I would be telling him.
"of course your kids are welcome in our home.. just as my kids are but at this point, I think it's best if visits happen when we are home. If we need to make exceptions to that, we can discuss individual circumstances.. but having your exwife in my home was not what I wanted to come home to and your daughter should have used better judgement"
Re-key the locks. NOW!
He violated the decision that the kids would not have keys. He gave her his. Do not risk that she copied it.
Re-establish the sanctity of your home.
DH is not the sharpest tool in the shed is he?
Spyware, Poison and Ass-beatings
You wrote: My husband thinks I am overreacting and will not see that anyone but me is in the wrong here - he even said, what if she was just using the loo? Go home and use your own lady! She has never so much as acknowledged we're married but now she can come into my house when I'm not there and have a look around?!!
Men like this? They don’t see a ‘problem’ until it smacks them square in the face—that’s the level of narcissism we’re dealing with. How do I know? If you’ve read any of my blogs, you’d already know the results of my DH keeping his head shoved up his own ass or the skids’ for years. Spoiler alert: it’s not good!
Based on your BM’s actions, she is definitely NOT your friend! There’s an unspoken, universal law in StepHell: behind every rude, dysfunctional, and mean-spirited skid that hates their stepmothers, there’s a manipulative mastermind pulling the strings—a cult leader, if you will—the BM, lurking in the background, working her magic. You think the skid's behavior is random? Think again. It's all covertly orchestrated or promoted by the BM as the puppet master.
BM’s and Skids’ Spyware
I would suggest you check your place for any planted listening devices or hidden cameras. YSD, Crazy’s little spy, had a nasty habit of recording us, and of course, DH, with his head so far up YSD’s behind, would defend her with the usual nonsense: “She’s harmless,” or “She’s so innocent” (gag!), or the worst, “She doesn’t know what she’s doing” (barf, again!). That is until she caught DH (Daddy-cakes) lecturing her on tape and YSD ran straight to her cult leader, Crazy, who called CPS on him. And that’s when DH, who’d been screwing around for way too long, finally found out just how bad it could get.
Poisons
Another thing to check? Your food or anything you consume. If BM knows your allergies or health issues (via the Skids, or your dimwitted DH telling the skids all your business), don’t be surprised if something suspicious shows up in your meals or your medicine cabinet or condiments or pet food. You end up in the hospital or worse, and suddenly, she’s collecting a big inheritance through the skids. Sounds far-fetched? Trust me, with people like this, you can never be too careful. When DH's oldest feral was just 14, she was already trying to get the ‘creature’ she was ‘dating’ to beat DH up. It's unbelievable, but that's what we were dealing with when we had that level of dysfunction at play—scheming skids raised by manipulative BMs, willing to assault their own father. Keep your guard up, because there’s no telling how far they’ll go. Can you truthfully say that you would put your life in your skids’ hands?
Enjoy Your DH’s Ass-beatings when they happen
My DH never changed a thing, no matter how bad it got. In his world, I was always the problem. Why? Because he was too terrified of BM and the skids, and the constant threat of their manipulative blackmail. The usual line was something like, “Daddy-cakes, if you don’t let us torture Toaster, you’ll never see us again, and you’ll end up paying more child support—oops, I mean ex-wife support.” He lived in fear of upsetting their delicate little world, so he clung to the strategy of “see no evil, hear no evil,” and that meant he definitely wouldn’t ‘speak no evil’ to his precious crotch droppings.
He was so wrapped up in avoiding their wrath that he refused to stand up for me—or himself. It was like living with someone who thought if they buried their head in the sand long enough, everything would magically fix itself. But that’s not how life works, and I was left dealing with the fallout.
So, I decided to disengage, citing "health issues" as my reason, while in reality, I was stepping back to preserve my sanity. DH ended up bearing the brunt of their manipulations—an abuse he brought upon himself because he refused to confront it head-on.
A prime example? BM and OSD invited DH to attend OSD's homecoming, claiming she had been elected homecoming queen. This, after two years of estrangement and bitter court battles where DH got his ass handed to him. I could see through the manipulation, but DH, ever desperate for approval, couldn’t resist the bait.
I told him straight up, "I’m not going to ‘worship’ at OSD’s shrine. You can go alone if you want, but I wouldn't if I were you." It was so typical of BM and OSD to dangle a bone in front of him just to keep him on their leash. But by then, I had learned to say no to the toxic drama.
He didn’t go in the end, but, of course, he couldn’t resist watching the whole thing unfold online. And it became painfully clear—he was never meant to be anything more than a bystander. Had he shown up, they would’ve humiliated him by refusing to let him walk onto the field with BM to crown OSD. The kicker? They didn’t even bother to tell him he needed to dress in formal wear, probably just to make sure he’d wouldn’t want to walk out on that field with them.
They didn’t want him there as part of the celebration. They wanted him in the grandstand, sitting quietly in the background, looking on as an outsider—just another distant spectator in their pre-planned spectacle. His presence wasn’t about love or family; it was about control, about keeping him on the fringe, reminding him that he didn’t belong. And watching it all play out online, he finally saw it for what it was—a cruel game he was never meant to win.
The real kicker? OSD's acceptance speech at another event, probably a day later, which DH also watched online but didn’t attend in person. It was nothing more than a sickening display of ass-kissing towards the Golden Uterus, BM. OSD stood up there, claiming that BM was her "only parent" and the one who "raised" her and "stood by her side as her best friend." DH played the speech for me, and I couldn’t believe the level of groveling OSD was doing. It was like a cult worship service, with BM on the pedestal. It was a direct snub to DH.
I’m sure, if OSD ever dupes some poor fool into marrying her, DH will get an invite, not out of love, but so they can set him up for another public humiliation.
I’ve come to realize that the manipulative humiliation my DH endured was, in a twisted way, a blessing in disguise. It was the only thing that finally made him ‘see the light’ and start to change. For years, I would tell him exactly what was going to happen, predict every move BM and the skids would make, but did he listen? Of course not. He was too wrapped up in his guilt, fear, and obligation to face reality. Life had to be the one to knock him down, and honestly, it worked. I think he was too terrified to go to the Homecoming events alone, these men are such cowards.
Sometimes, you’ve got to step back and let the drama play out. Let BM and the skids serve up the consequences. It might feel cruel, but the truth is, it’s often the only way they’ll learn. You might even find some relief in knowing that those tough lessons—delivered by the very people they were trying to please—are exactly what it takes to open their eyes. You might just have to learn to sit back and let it happen, because in the end, it’s that ‘ass-beating’ that could be the catalyst for real change.
Guilt, fear and obligation
Sums it up in a nutshell!
I'm keeping my distance now, and have made it clear that my boundaries are set in stone.
Honestly, it's exhausting that it comes to this
What happened was a HUGE nope
What happened was a HUGE nope.
Oh Hell No. BM in your house
Oh Hell No. BM in your house is a hill to die on. It's bad enough these b!tches are always skulking in the background of our lives. They don't get to skulk around in our HOMES. If your DH won't back you up you may have to deal with SD and/or BM directly.
Oh hell no! Don't fume. Go full flame on his idiot ass.
Time to play the nuclear option. Re-key the locks and make sure that no one but you and DH have a key. Better yet, get a bio-lock that reads finger prints and only you can register users. And.... Web cams with a full security system that trackes any entry, exit, etc.... That way you do not have to have the idiot parent of toxic spawn fights with your DH over his failed family baggage. Web cams with a large storage drive and you can give daddy clarity that even his delusional pea sized brain can recognize.
When he plays the "you wouldn't care if it was your kids" bullshit you need to immediatley jerk an knot in his tail with "my kids would not welcome my X into the house".
As for his XW "using the loo", that is one of the ultimate violations of the sanctity of your home. Who wants his XW's stanky ass on their toilet and her washing her nasty flea picking monkey paws in your sink and drying them on your towels? Toss your toothbrush and get a new one. These types tend to do juvenile evil crap. Err on the side of caution for sure.
As for "just helping to carry out the baked goods"...my ass! XW/BM was casing your home and she and her rancid crotch product were up to no good. I have no doubt.
That your DH is without clarity or a single functioning brain cell on reality regarding his failed family baggage is beyond infuriating I am sure.
Take care of you.
Just my thoughts of course.
"Using the loo." I don't care
"Using the loo." I don't care if she has the most explosive diarrhea in the history of the runs, she needs to dump it somewhere else! Like that makes it ok?!
Exactly!
If she lives less than a mile away she can hold it...you know darn well she snooped and made copies of your keys. If your DH is anything like Chef, he will do the "BM wouldn't do thaaaaaat... you're just paranoid." Or worse yet: "You're just jealous!" Been there burned the T-shirt.
Got it in one..
It became about me overreacting, not him not reacting!
Most importantly..... Welcome!
I hope that you find this to be a good place to vent, contribute, and to pick up some useful advice and perspective from others who are living the dream of the blended family adventure.
Take care of you.
Your SD Disrespect you
By letting BM in your home. And lie to you and DH. ADD ring cambers on all doors. To see who is coming into your home . Don't let your SO bull $hit you about you are not normal to care about BM in your home. Again make sure to change that lock SD could of made a copy of the key .
'You have to make DH Understand how violated you are having BM in your home. I would be trowing a fit over this.
Glad you established and enforced boundaries
Welcome to steptalk.
Yes, thats a huge boundary violation. You dont invite strangers in (to you BM is a stranger) when you are a GUEST in someones home.
Yeah, gaslighting you with "its a YOU problem"...nope nope nope.
BM doesn't even ring the
BM doesn't even ring the doorbell when she picks up SD14. She waits in her car on the curb and texts that she is here. Like she should! No need for her to be on our property.
Oh but these guilty daddys
Want to ride the backs of two horses. They will please whoever is the bitchiest unfortunately. They subscribe to the "One big happy family" (TM) model. Peace and Tranquility for all except SM, who is expendable.
Yep, the squeeky wheel gets
Yep, the squeeky wheel gets the grease.
Unless it can be addressed before it squeeks. Fortunately there are best practices that when applied effectively can keep the wheels from squeeking at all. One is not tolerating bullshit that are not true squeeks. The attention seaking noise not only should be ignored, it should be met with instantly painful consequence bearing response.
The noise from the new mate should never happen if the partners are a team who prioritize each other and their marriage above all else, make the minor children in the mix the top responsibility, and keep absolute clarity that Xs who are shit do not matter, there is very little noise to address inside of that equity life partnership. The Xs can F-off, the kids only have one option, to get in line and comply with standards of behavior and standards of performance, and the partners can live their best lives together.
Setting and evolving the standards move the whole structure to predicting the bullshit and not letting it happen. This means constantly monitoring the X's behaviors, the kid's behaviors, and working the preventative resolutions when a squeek occurs.
With this model, the squeeks are killed before they start or at worst, instantly upon making themselves known.
Destroying the bullshit instantly prevents it from promulgating. Addressing the actual sqeeks instantly keeps the couple from wasting their bliss on distractions from living well together.
And this is a short discourse on reactive Vs preventative Vs predictive resolutions. Success is implementing and evolving all of them to maximize results. Continual performance optimization practices adapted to people performance work just as effectively as their equipment focused counterparts. Basically, what is measured and monitored continually, continually improves. It does reduce the human element and some of the humanity from the mix but the results for those of quality and for the kids are uncontestable. The biggest impact to the performance of any system is human behavior. Even in physical equipment systems. People are the variable. Equipment does what it is designed to do unless people fail to do what they need to do for the physical system to perform.
I know, very engineeric of me.
"They will please whoever is
"They will please whoever is the bitchiest unfortunately."
It sucks but it's true. The only way to deal with a guy who caters to his BM out of fear is to make him fear you more. And that's a stressful thing to have to keep up.
The fear is from the adult step kids
and sadly he sees the light more each time he sees them. They genuinely do not give a rats arse about him. All the effort comes from him. As realisation has dawned he has made decisions that put us as a couple first which is why this threw me so completely. I just couldn't understand how he couldn't see it from my point of view