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Last-Wife's picture

PITA 16 refuses to talk to or visit his mother. They have had an on again/ off again relationship for the last 3 years. They are in an off phase now. I'm not really sure what happened over the summer when he did spend a bit of time there, but he came back, saying he wanted nothing to do with her, ever again.

She pretty much nailed her own coffin when she went and bought herself the car she had promised to buy for him...

But I still think, "that's his mom." I know she's crazy and has big problems in her life. I encourage him to call her at least once a week, even though I know he doesn't.

He was supposed to go to her house Thursday for Thanksgiving. According to the amended custody agreement changes set in 2002, it was her year to have the kids. He refused to go, and due to his basketball practice schedule, he was able to get out of going.

I told Loghead I thought it was important for him to at least CALL her. And Loghead said he'd talk to him about it...

So I found out tonight that Loghead didn't even bring up the subject with him, and was even mad to find out the other skids had tricked PITA into signing a birthday card for her...

I asked Loghead to talk to me about it, and at least tell me why he didn't have him call on her holiday, and he did the typical man thing he does and shut down. "I'm not talking about it," and marched off to the workshop.

Now, here;s my thinking... We have never said anything bad about her to the skids or infront of the skids. I have always worked hard to have a decent relationship with her. I've always felt it was important for the skids to know her and accept her for her inabilities; so one day they would see and make their own decisions about her. To still be able to have some sort of relationship with her, in spite of who she really is.

I don't think it's too much to ask for him to call and "play nice" for a few minutes or send a text- it isn't necessarily about him, but about her and how she feels. That's part of the adult world- you do what's right, even when it sucks. And I know it sucks. I know he is hurt by her, but as a young man, I still think there should be some respect there for her, as a human being, if not as a parent.

And I think Loghead needs to encourage that- to at least treat her with human decency; you don't have to love her, but you have to be nice.

Cause I think about how it would be if the shoe was on the other foot... What if PITA lived with her, and we expected to see him twice a month, and he never came, and she never made him call? How would Loghead feel about that? I've told Loghead that, and he says this is different, but he won't really talk about it. PITA won't talk to me about it...

And then I get irritated and think, well, what if it was Gibby? What if we were divorced, would he have Gibby call me? I would hope like hell Gibby would WANT to call me, but if he didn't, I would hope Loghead would still have enough respect for me as a human to have him at least call the 2 big holidays, Mother's Day and my birthday...

She's never done anything to physically harm the skids. She was undiagnosed bi-polar for so long and I do think in many ways that did hurt the kids emotionally, but she's had help for the last 10 years. She's balanced; she just has the same emotional range as a 13 year old girl. She truly doesn't see how her actions affect others, and if she thinks you have done something wrong to her, she will try to seek revenge. If I thought in any way she was harmful, I never would have continued to encourage communication and visitation for all those years.

I just think at 16, PITA is fed up with her games and lies. He doesn't want anyone in his life. The only people he seems to tolerate are his best friend and Grandpa... And I know the friend lives here on the weekends, and he has a sucky home life, so I even think part of it is that PITA doesn't go see her so his friend has a safe place to be...

Am I wrong to request that he contact her for her birthday next week? And it's her Christmas Day? He says he's not going... Is it wrong to request that he call?

Is it wrong to think that Loghead should put his foot down and enforce this? We pay the phone bill...

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Last-Wife's picture

And that's a concern of mine too... are we PASing him by not making him go see her? His decision not to go has nothing to do with us, or anything we have done...

TheWickedStepmom's picture

I don't think it's too much to request ss to call his mother and I do think it's pretty crappy that dh didn't even mention it when you asked him to. But on the same hand I must admit that I don't push my kids to call their ncp's either. I will ASK the kids if they did call or text on special holidays, but I don't push the issue. DS17 and his bd have a strained relationship at best. I ask him on father's day if he called or txt his dad and if he did great and if not, I drop it because of the situation between ds and bd. BD doesn't try to contact ds either and so ds is of the mind now that if bd doesn't care why should he? I have tried to talk to him and tell him he should talk to his dad about what he's feeling, but he feels like it's pointless and I really can blame him because his bd HAS been so uninvolved for such a long time. I don't think that there should be a punishment for a 16 yr old that doesn't want to talk to his ncp because the relationship is strained. Usually if the relationship is strained, there is a reason. If the kid is just being an ass then maybe I'd talk to them about that, but I think it really depends on the circumstances surrounding the situation.

caregiver1127's picture

Last-wife - you can't make a 16 year old call his mother - if he does not want to call her that is his deal - you are not PASing him - you are not talking bad about BM you in fact are encouraging a relationship with her - if he does not want one then don't push it - something must of happened and now they must deal with it - he is 16 after all. Don't have DH go and talk to him and don't push DH - you are creating problems for yourself - when SS lived with us BM would purposely call when he was at school or when he was asleep so she did not have to talk with him - SS knew what was happening and in the beginning he would try to call her but after a while he gave up - I would say in the beginning did you call you mom and then after a while DH finally pulled me aside and said listen - he is 12 if he wants to talk to her he will - we have provided a phone and he can call her any time - she is not going out of her way to talk to him and he is responding to her treatment of him - let it go - it is between them they are mother and son - it is time to butt out. And do you know what I did - I listened to my DH and I did back off.

This is between mother and son - not mother, son, father and SM - you are being really nice to want him to have a relationship with her but you don't know the whole story and quite frankly most teenagers don't even want to talk to their parents - so don't get DH riled and don't get yourself all riled up - LET IT GO - I promise it will work itself out and if you stay out of it then you will be less stressed - it is hard to do because you want them to get along and have a relationship but maybe right now they can't and that is okay they will be able to again.

If anything I would be screaming at DH about those pigs - lol