Oh the never-end Cycles with DH's Eldest Daughter
Received a text message from DH's eldest daughter a couple weeks ago. That in itself was over the top surprising - many of you know the rocky, horrific way she has behaved towards me over the years. DH's eldest daughter does not text me ever, about anything. She has next to nothing to say to me all the time, so I was surprised
Even more so that she was letting me know the sex of the baby (she's due with their second child in a few months) I figured she had told DH this info and he suggested she let me know, which is exactly what happened but still, in the past if DH suggested she let me in on some news too she would tell him "okay" and then not do it. So the fact she did actually send it to me caught me off guard
Just after I answered with a congratulations etc... I received another message. An invite to her 31gifts party. And that I was welcome to bring my sisters. Again I was completely caught off guard. My immediate reaction was to say thank but busy (but I knew that would only give her and DH ammunition to point out that she is trying and I have the problem) My next thought was wow she must be desperate for numbers at her party and so now even the people she has treated like scum all these years - my family and I - are suddenly welcome.
I figured by the time she invited me DH already knew about it and sure enough she had told him first. I told him as politely as I could that I would give her the benefit of the doubt and assume she wasn't just using me and my family to go spend money at her party, and seriously after all the years of treating us like garbage that is exactly how it appeared.
DH insisted that no, if she disliked us all that much she would rather have no-one at her party than us.
Oh and just before the party I received another text message from DH's daughter saying "hey lady we will also have blah blah at the party"....I assumed she texted me in error meaning it for a friend instead as DH's daughter doesn't talk to me at all let alone call me 'lady'
But then a couple days ago I received yet another message from her. This one was a picture of SGS with a bunch of other kids in their Halloween costumes.
So, it would appear we are back to the "cycles" as I refer to it where DH's daughter is concerned.
She goes for a few years of hating the ground I walk on, to suddenly it's all okay now....and of course expecting me to jump on the bandwagon and carry on as if all the years of abuse from her never happened.
The first time she pulled this it devastated me. DH & I had been in our relationship for two or three years, his daughter already living with us full-time for two of them, and up until then everything had been great with her. I truly liked her. I sincerely wanted a good relationship with her and I put effort into nurturing that. And just when I reached that contented point of thinking I had just that with her - a fantastic relationship - wham! She made it abundantly clear she hated me, blamed me for all the wrong in her life, moved back in with BM, gave DH an ultimatum -either her or me - and practically ripped apart DH's entire family over it all. She worked very hard at destroying not only my marriage, but any relationship I had with anyone, most especially her blood.
This was devastating to me. DH & I were happy and inlove, wanting to marry, and one of the things DH was so proud of with me was that his children had taken to me so well. He bragged that I was such a great person even his eldest daughter, the same one who despised his former girlfriend, and who had nothing but hatred for BM's SO, actually seemed to like a step-parent for the first time ever.
When she rejected me the way she did I was at first shocked, confused, hurt, and extremely humiliated. She had after all dragged everyone into this mess, not just DH & I but his whole family including BM and her SO (who did not support her because they had already been through this with her - thus the reason she had been living with DH and I full time for over two years at that point)
Anyway, after all that hurt and confusion with her I felt angry. Very angry. I knew I had done nothing wrong - although when someone "hates" you that much you tend to think and rethink and question everything. But even then I knew my heart was good, I had always done nothing but try with her, and decided she was just plain evil as the only possible explanation to such horrific treatment
I finally disengaged, not because it was my choice...no, I stupidly kept trying with her; letters, cards, calls, invites to come and talk with her father and I about what the issue was. Nothing worked. Even when I finally took a firmer stand and told her I would not tolerate this treatment - well that escalated it even more
Only when it finally sunk it WHY she did what she did (extreme jealousy over DH's relationship with me, and the notion that we were somehow in competition with each other) did I realize that no, I was not the problem. I had been good to her, kind to her, made many sacrifices for her. I truly cared for her and stupidly had believed it was mutual. All along she was seething thinking I had stolen her father away and now he didn't love her anymore (her words)
That realization took away all my shock and hurt. It greatly helped me overcome the sense of humiliation and failure I had been feeling. The anger was harder to overcome but even that minimized greatly.
And of course, it was only then, when I no longer associated me with any of her issues that I could give her exactly what she "wanted" and walked away from any attempts to rebuild any sort of relationship
And I was so much happier. Felt so much less stress. I didn't take it personal any longer. I didn't react to her treatment of me. I was polite and decent to her regardless of what an animal she was to me, but I simply avoided her as much as possible.
And just when this became the norm for me and I had finally reached that contented level of acceptance that it was what it was, well, she started to change her behavior. Started to mention me by name in conversations to get my attention and draw me in, actually said hello once in a while, and eventually made it more and more clear she was all good now
And what did I do?
Forgave her instantly.
Brushed it off as just simple teenage step stress but she was all good now, saw I wasn't a bad person, maybe even liked me after all, and I welcomed her back into my heart with a vengeance. Right back to kissing her ass, falling over backwards for her, feeling so grateful all was good and my hopes of the future in steplife was revived.
And of course, just when I thought all was well (a few years later) then she pulled the same thing again. Again she decided she hated and despised me, again refused to see DH in our home, again went back to not speaking to me and treating me like garbage. Saying really nasty things about me and behaving in a mean and hurtful ways towards me
The second time I disengaged it was definitely my choice. And while I did it gracefully and over time, it was steady and she soon saw I wasn't falling over backwards this time round to find out what the issue was. In fact, I wasn't trying at all anymore.
And once again after a few years of this went on she starting behaving better again....but the difference is I had made a promise to myself I would never again allow her to do this to me. I was DONE. And I still am. Throughout all of this I have remained polite and respectful to her, always take the high road and have never been rude or infantile. I respond to any attempts she makes to speak with me, invite me to something, but I don't go any farther. I stay away.
Now she appears to really be cranking it up. I know she must have an agenda...YSD's visits home, upcoming wedding, everything being about YSD, etc... or something. I refuse to fall for her crap
But, my dilemma this time is she has never, ever, made this much of an an effort. This is over the top. This is different.
My head is telling me not to get sucked in. Be consistent with calmness and civility towards her, but do not let her think I have in any way 'befriended' her again.
It's going to be an interesting few months ahead!!
Threestrikes, did you ever
Threestrikes, did you ever find out why the love/hate your sister had for you? What were her issues?
yes skeeter your story always
yes skeeter your story always touches a cord with me, if I had to have dh's daughter living just around the corner and popping in all the time the way your SD and SGD does, I'd go nuts!
Gotcha StepAside. No not
Gotcha StepAside. No not tempted either. But surprised she would go so far this time to 'play nice'. She must really want something. And I'm sure she thinks it's a matter of time before I bend again. She has been trying off and on for a while now and not getting a bite. I expected it would turn real ugly again, or she would give up. Never thought for a second she would crank up the "niceness" instead
Let me tell you, since I got
Let me tell you, since I got married at 19 , I was the first one in my friends/family, seen a lot of showers, weddings births and whatnot. Usually when someone who I don't know that well/ haven't talked to in a while sends me an invite, it's because they have so few friends / family to come fill the seats at their event. Now, I know you have a "special" (cough cough) situation with SD, but I bet you anything that toxic waste of space can't get 10 friends/coworkers/ family members to come. Imagine the embarrassment (I'm not on facebook just giving you a hypothetical on how young people think)posting photos of your shower, with 5 people in attendance!
the rocky, horrific way she
the rocky, horrific way she has behaved towards me over the years.
This actually describes my DH's oldest daughter's behavior towards HIM. She has always treated him like he was just some guy instead of her father, to the point that she usually called him by his name, when she called him at all.
We had not heard from her for two years (which was not unusual) when she called to tell him that she had had a baby and was having a baby shower. Her cousin called about 3 times, leaving messages to call her so that she could tell us what to buy (her words). DH didn't call her back, nor did we go to the shower or buy a gift. It was so obvious why his daughter called in the first place.
We did try to be a part of the baby's life but that only lasted about a year and a half. All his daughter was interested in was using us as weekend babysitters and money.
That's pretty serious stuff
That's pretty serious stuff skeeter, wow, had not idea it was that bad for you. If I were you, I would feel the same
It didn't occur to me that my
It didn't occur to me that my SD 21 was manipulative and acting out of jealousy until way after the incident I refer to which was the defining moment I chose as my hill to die on... I look back to a variety of indicators and it all makes sense. Like when we got married the look on her face was sheer jealousy and she was NOT happy for her dad and I that we got married... She would complain that her father didn't help her out enough and expected her father to drop everything and spend days making her rented property out to be a Taj Mahal so she could have this top class equestrian property ( did i mention she is renting it?)... And she would complain when her father was renovating around my place for me and her father ( and his son16) to live in... She was used to her father putting her first and so when we got married it's funny how she seemed keen to help me sell my horse for me ( so she could make money on it which I didn't mind as I didn't have the time to... But had kept the money she owed me and ignored my text when I made a simple enquiry... But she implied to her sister and her father I was harassi g her!!!!! So to me it was all a set up from her end to put a wedge between me and DH as he instantly want into defend her all the while remaining innocent as evertyone in their family just says things like that's how she operates... She gets very sensitive and people have to pussy foot around her...
So meanwhile DH and I are separated after only 6 months of marriage... Even though he says he understands how badly he has treated me... I'm doubting it. Blood is thicker than water and I see her manipulative ways and I know DH will swoop into to defend his princess and I predict this happening again... So SD21 will pull out another stunt when she feels her dad is getting closer to me again.
If she has not done any inner
If she has not done any inner work to heal form the baggage she carries..then i would not go into that situation again...to protect yourself from the destructive patterns she has displayed over and over again...It is what she knows...it is what she has been marinated in...It is a life pattern..(that is why she keeps repeating it)...the only one who can put a stop to this destruction is you...Standing up for yourself...having enough self respect to say "no"...why do we keep returning to the very thing that is harming us?...When you can answer that question...then you will be able to work on the part of you that has grown co-dependent on a destructive relationship like this one...she has too much power over you...The only way she feels like she wins is if you lose...you are the only one who can take it back and realize,...she does not get to impose on you a "less than" attitude...she does not get to treat you with apathy...YOU Matter in this relationship...Why do we make it all about them?....you are way more than the stepmom role that you play...She is an adult now and needs to individualize and start working on her self.....you on the other hand should work on re-building the you these people have slowly tried to dis assemble...one hurt at a time..
The amount of grief we experience over the loss of a relationship is directly correlated to the personal investment of ourselves we made into that relationship...Sometimes we give to people who do nothing but hurt us in return and it takes a piece of us with them....Personally, i would cut the soul tie off from this relationship, and work on healing the damage she has left inside of you...It doesn't mean you do not love...it means you have become aware of how unhealthy this life pattern is for you personally, and you will no longer give her permission to re-define you as the "rug" to be walked on and used so poorly for her benefit...She is mentally and emotionally abusing you...and you are enabling it...
If you focus on yourself right now..you can probably admit to your dh that you are not"ready" to accept an invitation from her yet. Do not let him pressure you into it...He manipulated her to invite you...it didn't come from her heart or she would have done it sooner...The question is not did she invite you, but rather, WHY did she invite you?...If your dh does not understand you not being ready to embrace it...it is because he has tried to groom you into accepting "their way" as "normal"..it isn't..He is blind to it because he is still feeding into it himself (who do you think taught her?)...it is a result of their inability to resolve their issues...like most of us...we had to fight for our new culture in our now family...Remember...the past has NOTHING new to say...peace.
That's sad heriam, but less
That's sad heriam, but less stress for you!
That's awful stormyweather
That's awful stormyweather
That's funny, when DH & I were married, his eldest daughter (she was 26 at the time) suddenly had a break-down crying fit at the dinner. My best friend and matron of honour looked at me mouthing the words WTF?! and looking like she wanted to strangle my SD
And the entire dinner DH sat there talking about when SD was young this, and when younger SD was young that, and oh SD's what do you think of this, or SD's we're so proud of you both for that....
I seriously didn't notice either thing - the crying fit (until my best friend pointed it out) nor DH sitting there kissing his daughter's asses - rather than paying attention to his brand new bride - the first evening we were married. Funny how you become so used to stuff it ceases to amaze you any longer, and it's not until someone points it out that you realize how screwed up it truly is!
I hope your DH smartens up, if not, don't get back together with him. Hopefully he will see what a massive waste of time his daughter has caused him!
Wow peacemaker, what
Wow peacemaker, what excellent insights, and great advice! Yes so, so true. These toxic relationships do take a piece out of us, especially as you say the ones we give so much to and get nothing but abuse in return. Thanks, you have made me think about this....
I think you hit the nail on
I think you hit the nail on the head Sally. I once told my DH that never ever again would I allow his daughter to mistreat me. That she would literally have to make a very sincere, heartfelt apology and then follow it up by her actions for a very long time, before I would ever believe she truly was worth trusting again. And even then, it would not mean I would welcome her back into my heart or life, only that she had done the right thing finally
Disillusioned, my 33 year old
Disillusioned, my 33 year old stepdaughter was the only one of our combined 6 adult kids that was not happy when me and my husband got married nearly 2 years ago. She never once congratulated us, never once asked how wedding plans were going, and took her time sending the response card back. She even asked her father one day, "what time is "that" anyway"? She and her husband came to the wedding. She never said a word to me and they left early. She even whined to her brother that Dad didn't send her a Valentine's card two weeks before OUR wedding, even though she was acting like a spoiled brat about our upcoming wedding.
My grandmother died a couple of weeks ago and my husband let his kids know. They had met my grandmother on several occasions. I got a text from her...that's it, not even a card. I'm surprised I even got that. She has a 2 year old daughter and she's always sending her father pictures of her, but never to me. She likes to remind me that I'm an outsider, even though I'm the one who buys her daughter birthday and Christmas gifts. Last spring, I knitted a sweater for her daughter. It's probably still in the gift bag that we gave it to her in. My husband asked her a couple of times to take a picture of the baby in the sweater to send to us, but it never happened.
My kids are coming to our house this weekend to celebrate my birthday. My husband invited one of his sons to also come over. I didn't suggest that he invite her, even though I knew he talked to her yesterday. She makes me uncomfortable in my own home and I doubt she'd want to celebrate my birthday anyway.
Not only are our SD's the
Not only are our SD's the exact same age JLRB, but they behave the same!
Yes not only did my DH's daughter have a break-down on the day of our wedding, but she showed up late for the Reception, drank so much she puked her guts up in the bathroom (this was a high-end place and all of DH and my closest friends and family there - embarrassing!) and then she left early, after insulting two guests (dear old friends of my FIL)
She has SGS call our home phone (not DH's cell like usual) to sing happy birthday to him, make a big fuss and wish him happy birthday herself, but won't so much as acknowledge me on mine. Yes, exactly like your SD. Deliberately trying to stick it to me, make sure I know I am by no means family!
One year my DH got fed up about this and asked her why she didn't wish me happy birthday the same as him - especially as she makes a point of phoning the house to do it rather than his cell (so I for sure will know she did it) and she said she does wish me happy birthday when she sees me at the family gathering held for both our birthdays (which are days apart) so that year DH did the same, did not call her on her birthday but did wish her happy birthday a few days later when we were all at FIL's. Well she threw a fit. Told everyone how Dad did not even call her on her birthday yada yada. She failed to see his point I believe.
Your SD didn't get it either with the Vanentine's Day card. Does your DH seriously send his 33 year old daughter a Valentine's card? That might explain some of her jealously over you I think!!
At least she sent you a text when your Grandmother died. And sorry to hear about that! when my brother died - the same brother that always treated her like gold - she didn't so much as acknowledge it. Not a text, not a message of condolence, let alone attend the funeral. Disgusting behavior and infuriates me still
Celebrate your upcoming birthday without her. You will enjoy it more! Mine is coming up this month too, so Happy Birthday to both of us LOL
Happy Birthday to you too,
Happy Birthday to you too, Disillusioned! Yes, my husband continued to send her Valentine's cards each year, along with cards to his 2 grandchildren (one is hers). I find it ridiculous to be honest. My husband and his ex-wife had a long-term horrible marriage where they didn't speak for years. I think his daughter liked being the only female in his life and she doesn't like it that I'm around, and that he's happy.
I think that may be exactly
I think that may be exactly the issue JLRB, at least you're on to her!