Help for my friend Ruth
Hello everyone - I have my dear friend Ruthie staying with me at the moment. She is having problems and I said I would ask my step friends and see what they think as I don't know what to advise her as her situation is similar to mine but fast forward about 5 years! So...Ruthie and her DH are both in their 50's. Ruthie has two adult BIO's of her own. DH has a SD aged 30 who has one daughter. SD has never wanted Ruthie around so the relationship between DH and SD has mainly been exclusive, with DH making a huge effort to spend time with SD. Ruthie has rarely been present (see why that is familiar to me!).
Anyway Ruthie stuck it out thinking that things would improve when SD had family of her own. Step GK is now at age where she is playing weekly soccer and SD wants DH to go to every game. DH goes along and loves this interaction with his daughter and grandchild. But SD has said she just wants her dad there! These soccer games often turn into lunch out somewhere so basically every Saturday now Ruthie is being excluded from all of this. Ruthie has accepted she won't have a relationship with SD but she thought there was some hope when grandkids came along as they would be innocent children who wouldn't be involved in the situation.
Ruthie has spoken to DH and he said he has spoken to SD to try and change her mind but SD insists "I just want my daddy". Ruthie won't go along if she isn't welcome and doesn't want DH to miss out on time with his daughter and grandchild yet she feels very excluded and hurt about it. Ruthie is a soft hearted, non confrontational person. She said her DH has really tried to include her but SD insists "No, daddy only!". BM goes along to some of these games too but DH doesn't have lunch with them when she is there.
Can anyone help here? I honestly don't know what to tell her because I really see this being my situation one day and I am struggling as it is!! Your advice on me disengaging has really helped, and I told Ruthie this, but she said she doesn't want to give up, she just wants a chance to be a part of the step GK's life.
Thank you guys. Ruthie said when she gets home she will open her own account! lol
Its really rude of the SD to
Its really rude of the SD to try to manipulate dad's life. Dad is married and that should be his priority. Until she makes it clear to him whatever her point is...it won't get better.
SD is being selfish and it destroys instead of builds.
Why isn't this child's father
Why isn't this child's father at the games? Was grandpa ever that interested in attending events when his daughter was young or is this some new version of the guilt game by the daughter? How far away do they live? If it is some distance I would think it a bit much for every weekend. If it was close by then Iwould just be glad I did not have to go myself.[I hate sports}
I agree with Carson D.
I agree with Carson D. Husband needs to put his foot down and stop being a wuss. If the daughter is such a bitch that she would exclude SM even after her dad tells her (which he needs to do) that he would prefer not to go somewhere where his WIFE isn't welcome - then she needs to grow up. She's being a manipulative little twit and it will only get worse if he doesn't confront her now. Is his wife going to sit at home while they have Thanksgiving and Christmas together next year? I mean, really???
I think that Ruthie's DH
I think that Ruthie's DH really needs to set his priorities! How often does this occur? It's beyond time for the SD to stop being an entitled brat, DH really needs to bring her up to speed on a few things. He's married now, this is Ruthie's grand child by marraige now too. Of course, if this has been going on for years, and no one put a stop to it then only the one aggrieved is going to even think it's wrong!! I can understand why a person might not want another person in their lives, including their childrens' lives. I would not want to rain on the parade of joy for DH and new grand baby iether.
I found that I had to set my own boundaries with BM and SKids here, there's something that makes men spineless with kids and an ex, Guilt maybe? I am a big girl and I can stand up for myself! Maybe Ruthie could create her own bond with SD? Ruthie should explain how she feels to DH though, maybe it could ostensibly be that DH needs Ruthie to drive him there and she can stay and be polite...increasingly longer each time. It took years for the pattern to evolve and it may take some time for it to get to a point where everyone is getting along.
I have a long line of steps
I have a long line of steps in my family. My gma was a second wife- and a step mother to relatively young stepkids (5 and 7)- his wife died. It is funny that she wanted us to find spouse's that didn't have extra baggage. She had issues with her skids right up until they died.
My grandfather on my mom's side remarried when I was 5 (my gma died when I was 4). All his children were adults, hers were teen to late teens. THey had two families. His and Hers. Hers had their own holiday parties that we didn't go to, and his had their that they didn't come to. He was always at hers.....she was rarely at ours but always invited. It was after my grandpa died that we realized that that shouldn't be. Now all family invites go from us to them.
My stepdad came into my life when I was pretty young 9ish. I didn't know his extended family until I was an adult (they lived in another state and weren't close). He was never at any function we had- basketball, football, whatever! I don't think he attended for his kids either- he was a workaholic. Fast forward to my daughter. He came to watch soccer, horse shows, he attended parent nights (guess where I was- work!). He saw this as his second chance of doing it right.
IF she loves her DH, I would chose to stay with my DH. During those times that he is with his daughter I would make my hair appointments, get my nails done, etc. I would ask how they are, and put up the pics of his grandkids. I would do this because I love my DH. I would not let SD have the control over my emotions to hurt me. Accept it and go on with her life. The only people that will be hurt by SD's actions will be her and her kids. Because when other grandkids come in to be- step or not, SD will then see what her kids have missed out on.
I wish your friend good luck. Stepparenting is something that is extremely hard to be successful at. I have not been but I watch my mom with her skids.....and her "step" grandkids....and wish that one day I will have that relationship. My family has learned to love beyond the boundaries- my parents showed me that for that I am grateful.
I have a long line of steps
The only people that will be hurt by SD's actions will be her and her kids.
This is so correct but unfortunatly these SD dont think like this because they are so selfish and its alway only about them and the power they think they have over their dads ,they use them manuplaite them and turn things around making the dad feely guilty.
DH has really tried to
DH has really tried to include her but SD insists "No, daddy only!". BM goes along to some of these games too but DH doesn't have lunch with them when she is there.
Candylou - your friends DH has not really tried to include her - when SD say No Daddy only what is she 3 - tell ruthie that she tells her DH either we go together or you go once a month only - why should this bitch of a SD get all of Ruthie's weekends with her husband - if DH can't do this for his wife then it is his fault - if I had a SD like that I swear I would scream - I don't even know how you all who have SD's do it - they are horrible. But this SD needs to grow the hell up and let daddy love who he wants!!! SHe is a bitch and "daddy" is letting her be one to his wife. She cannot stop Ruthie from going and if I was Ruthie I would go and if SD makes a scene I would walk up to her and tell her if she ever wants her father to see another game she better behave herself - and then I would do everything in my power using whatever means to make sure that DH would not attend another game if she continued to make a scene even so far as threatening divorce - I know that seems extreme but this is an extreme situation that has been out of control for years and will take extreme measures to make it right again!!
DH has really tried to
Hi caregiver1127 ive been there done that SD 31 and 28 now and i was never made welcome by them never at anything when they were kids and than when they had their own kids theres 5 Gks now ages from 9 to 1 i thought things would change but no if anything it was worse because they used it against my DH that he didnt care about his GKS .
I just did my own thing with our own son when my DH went to see them maybe once a month he would have to go to one house 1st to see YSD than depending on the mood of the OSD she might go up to YSD house to meet her dad or he would have to get on a bus to go to her home to see her and GKS.
This worked for us until covid hit and he couldnt go see them as hes high risk but unfortunatly he had a death in the family back last summer and his cousin came and took him to see the deceased family SDS found out he was up in the deceased home (they had already been ) they love all that drama go to everyones funerals and wakes .ESD called fatheres day DH thought it was to wish his a nice day but know screaming down the phone abuse him saying you can go see deceased family but you cant come to see us ,YSD didnt call at all she didnt need to they both concoct their stories together .2 days later the funeral is on we only went to the cemetary they went to church and cemetary came into the cemetary all dressed in black crying their eyes out .
Dad ignored them because of the call he had 2 days previous they tell everyone (well anyone that still speaks to them ) that they were so upset their dad ignored them at the funeral and that i was sniggering at them i wasent even near them ,few weeks later thy take to social media and call me an insecure pig who is jealous of his daughters and grandkids and their dad needs to grow a backbone and stand up to me ..Previous to this thses abusive messages were coming to my phone so they were all blocked then they used their boyfriends phone so they were blocked to and all social media sites .
My DH hasent spoken to them since and says he doesent want to now after that ,i guess what im saying is most DH pretend these things are not happening with their adult children and its only when they attacked him to he has cut the tie .
That makes me want to vomit.
That makes me want to vomit. It really does-we see this sort of behavior out of the children that we deal with and it is inappropriate at that age, but at least one understands it is a developmental stage in which kids priorities are only themselves. But at 30? She needs to stop thinking ONLY of herself and think of her child, her father, her stepmom.
Her dh needs to get his rear out of his behind and just bring his wife along or not go. Tell daughter, I am spending time with my wife that day-we can stop in and watch if you like? He needs to consistently tell her this each time she asks him to come. She will eventually understand that they are a package deal-if she wants a relationship with her dad and wants dad involed with grandkids then she needs to accept the stepmom.
This is on the DH. He has
This is on the DH. He has tolerated the behavior. He needs to put his foot down on this. She doesn't have to go every time, but she should certainly feel welcome enough to go. This is just a soccer game. I would mad as hell if every Saturday, my DH would leave me. No way. She needs to get a back bone and tell her DH to stop indulging his spoiled daughter.
I agree. Why has DH given SD
I agree. Why has DH given SD so much power in his relationship? The problem here is not SD . .it's DH. SD has made it a mission to be rude to Ruthie by not including her and DH is going along with it. He needs to put his foot down and tell SD that Ruthie has been hurt by this exclusion and that while she may not attend every function, she should at least be invited to some of them.
Jelly back DH's who won't stand up to BDs (mine included) are pathetic and ridiculous. Ruthie's DH needs to tell SD that if she's not invited to any functions, he'll have to stop attending them as well. His allegiance should be to Ruthie . . not SD. People treat you the way you allow them to treat you. It's time for Ruthie to put her foot down and demand the respect she deserves as his wife.
What would happen if the shoe
What would happen if the shoe was on the other foot? Say Ruthie goes out and spends every Wednesday - all day - with her relatives or friends and leaves HD home. She can make sure he knows relatives or friends do not want him to take part, etc., even though their spouses are invited. Just wonder how THAT would fly!
Frankly, if SD didn't want me around I'd be jumping for joy but if this is a weekly occurrence it is too much. I agree with Caregiver. Once a month is plenty. Ruthie will have to insist HD spend more weekends with her. Hopefully HD will have enough respect for his wife enough to do so.
Hi everyone - Ruthie read all
Hi everyone - Ruthie read all your comments and I saw her shift right in front of me!! She is going to make some serious changes! She couldnt' believe there was somewhere for her to talk about things like this. We laughed at some comments lol but truly they were so helpful, so thank you everyone!
Ruthie agrees, she needs to be the priority, she said she probably won't go along if not wanted, but she will make sure the visits are cut down (currently it is seriously every Saturday!). It's sad though because Ruthie is such a lovely lady and I think the step GK is really missing out. But I told Ruthie to wait until she has grandkids of her own, she will love them ten times more!
Hey, I saw an interesting post this week, about not loving your stepkids, which I and Ruthie totally related to. But what about step GK's? Does anyone love them?
Thanks again everyone!!!
The sgrandkids cause the most
The sgrandkids cause the most heartache for me. I love them very much, but know that if something happened to my DH I would never get to see them again. And it also gives my SD32 another, more painful, club to hold over my head.
Hi stepgin - just a question,
Hi stepgin - just a question, you mentioned your sgk's cause the most heartache. Is it the kids themselves or your skids that cause the pain? I just find this whole situation very sad. We didn't ask for this.
Oh sure, but you better tread
Oh sure, but you better tread lightly on that one - iow, don't get too attached to them because there are too many ways they could suddenly be out of your life forever.
He needs to put a stop to it
He needs to put a stop to it and not let his grown daughter push him around.
That is just insane, that he lets her be first. When you are married, your spouse is too come first. Not sure what happened to that with step families. You are to leave your mom and dad and cleve to spouse. What is the difference, if you are divorced or married someone who is and or has kids. The Sd needs to grow up as well.
Do they even think about the hurt that they are causing others?
My opinion is that if we were
My opinion is that if we were retired and he spent one day a week with his daughter and grandkids (hypothetical because his live in another state) then I wouldn't mind. I could sleep in, get coffee and read a book.
But my husband is mostly retired, still picks up some side jobs but I work 50 hours a week. That together time is precious and I wouldn't stand for SD hogging it all.
Oh man. This is from a decade
Oh man. This is from a decade ago. I hate it when I forget to check before I comment.
Oh man. This is from a decade
KC me to *lol*