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jennaspace's picture

My MIL looks like she might be dying. Unlike many of you my MIL has been the equivalent of the BM. Without her and SDIL, I may have been able to be successful in relating to skids. I feel like she took this away. It's really hard not to resent her. It was just so pointless. I tried so hard to fit in. The more I tried, the more I was disrespected and treated with hostility and false accusations. It felt like every good thing I tried to do was portrayed into an action with an evil motive.

I am just about to move out of state which is one of the many reasons I was so threatening in the first place. DH is only son and she wanted him to stay. Since I married my DH (I moved here to from another state) MIL has positioned herself to be ahead of me in his family. I was willing to be second place, she wanted more than that. She wanted to dominate me to the nth degree, using the step relations to do it (particularly SD and SDIL). Nothing I could do was right. The nicer I was, the ruder she was. She's one of those people that looks down on people who are nice to her. And, she attributed every knee jerk reaction that my presence aroused in her to a character flaw on my part.

Now she may be dying. Honestly my heart feels very hardened. I am a Christian, she said she was too. I've been praying for her the last couple of days, I didn't even know she was in the hospital (my DH didn't tell me).

She has told everyone how terrible we are by not visiting her enough. She never told people how badly she treated me. Just how unbelievable it was that we didn't come around more. I can't tell you how much effort I made and how many times I got slammed down. It was very much like a skid issue, it didn't matter what I did, I took DH's attention from her and thus I was culpable of a great deal of malice in her mind. She ruined my reputation (I suspect strongly) with many people by her accusations.

She talked of how awful it was we didn't visit enough in our presence to strangers we just met. I have no doubt it was a frequent topic of conversation otherwise.

The thing is, my heart feels so hardened. I am so weary of woman like MIL who have wreaked havoc on my life because they are immature and small. I'm getting old enough that I'm not mourning people's death in my life unless we had a good relationship. I actually grieve what could have been and how she lived her life much more so than her death.

I know that the whole family will likely blame me if she dies. I recently disengaged and this has been devastating for her. Her control lay in allies.. esp SDIL and previously SD. By disengaging, I removed myself from the control she exerted by her triangulation.

I was so happy I was about to leave in 6 wks or so (we had invited her to live with us). Now she may die before that. Everyone will blame me I'm sure. They have blamed me for so much since I married DH and now she is dying right when I am taking her son (in her eyes) away from her. My DH lost his job, but I'm doubt people will see it that way since he could have tried to stay in this state. I just wanted to go by my family.

My question is, should I even attend the funeral if she dies? To not do so would be very disrespectful. I've been disengaged for a year and I think they think I am horrible as I did not go to SD's baby shower, or grand skids b-days. I never got to spend time with step grands at any function anyway and for almost the whole time I've known them MIL and SDIL said over and over that I was not grandma (only MIL WAS gma).
SS did call me gma, that's what started it all.

Anyway, I'm tired and after being on the receiving end of tons of blame for the past few years, I don't want to go to a funeral with a bunch of people who blame me for her death. Heart failure due to her only son moving away in her old age right before he was to leave.

I'm just so tired and I just want to be left alone. It's scary that I feel so little for her. I just feel tired and without emotion.

I'm going to pray. I never imagined when I was young I could be this callous about death. I feel she will go to heaven because of God's mercy though I witnessed little fruit in her life. I feel she will be in a better place.

jennaspace's picture

Since I don't feel I will mourn her death as she has been such a destructive force in my sfamily, I feel I probably shouldn't go just to prove something. I think people will be very angry when they see me, not the focus I want. My DH will not be with me at all because he physically has to attend to other things.

My DH actually probably want me to stay home as it will shift the focus off her due to my angst at having to face everyone who will probably blame me for her death. I will just try to support him.

Krispey Kreme's picture

My MIL is a bitter, toxic person too. Nice to your face, yet full of jealous venom behind your back (and self-pity). I'll be glad to see her tucked away in the ground one of these days. My DH and I joke that she'll probably outlive both of us. If I outlive my DH, and MIL is still living, she won't be MIL to me anymore-she'll be someone I won't ever talk to again. Or help in any way. And I'll make sure my bios are kept out of her reach too.

I would go. To show support for your DH. MIL died because she was old and in poor health. Period. Once she's gone, it won't be about her anymore, ever. You should drop her name from your vocabulary. It will be about supporting DH. It sounds like MIL spent her last years being as toxic as she could be. Too bad people have to act that way. Maybe she'll find peace in the next world that she refused to find here. Then again, maybe someone should pack some sunscreen in her coffin, she might need it where she could end up. }:)

If there's one thing that I loathe, it's people who act like they are super-Christians, then behave like the worst sinners behind the back. If anyone gives you the stink eye, stare back calmly at them. Refuse to participate in any drama. Remember the deodorant ad on TV? "Never Let Them See You Sweat". If someone has the nerve to say something to you, calmly inform them that poor MIL had been unhealthy and not herself for quite a few years and that there are always two sides to every story. And that since they've never heard your side, they shouldn't judge. If they persist or if they try to blame you, tell them you are sorry they feel that way and remind them that they are wrong, it's not the time/place to discuss this and they are being disrespectful. They are at a funeral and need to behave themselves-or leave. Ask them to pray about it Smile Then walk away from them. With your head held high. Excuse yourself in a reasonable amout of time and leave (unless DH needs you to stay).

Your job is simply to be the best wife to your husband and best Mom to your own bio children (if you have bios). Period. If DH's family wants to continue the tradition of the nastiness and poison spewing they learned from MIL, keep yourself detached. Don't waste your breathe trying to tell anyone your side of the story-it is old news now, she's gone, they may be invested in keeping the old drama going. Refuse to be sucked in. Your DH and you know what went on, don't let yourself care about any of the other people who want to fight.

Go, sit up straight, be classy, don't let them get to you. Just look at them and be grateful that you aren't like them.

GoodbyeNormaJean's picture

Why do we attend funerals? Several reasons. To show respect, to be a supportive shoulder for a family member who is grieving, to get closure, to grieve...if you aren't going for any of those reasons, don't go. Don't worry about what people think. The ones that matter know the truth. The ones that don't know the truth don't matter.

My mom died in March. I had been estranged from her for years because she was an abusive addict and an alcoholic. I had not seen her for a decade, and had only heard from her when she wanted something. Summer of 2011 she was diagnosed with an aggressive and terminal form of cancer. I was demonized by my aunt and grandmother (my mom's mother and sister) for not going to see my mother when she was hospitalized, dying. The thing was, I had been disengaged from her for a decade, and had mourned her the loss of her some 15 years ago when she dumped me off like an unwanted mangy alley cat.

The sun still rises and sets over my house every day. My coffee still tastes just as delicious. I enjoy holidays now more than ever, and there is no lack of love in my life. My aunt and grandmother are free to go fuck themselves. I have since disengaged from them, so I wouldn't know (or care) either way.

jennaspace's picture

I'm sorry your mom was so awful. I understand. When my dad died I wrote in my journal "I mourn not that you died, I mourn that I mourn not".

I'm glad you've found your peace despite such a mother.

simifan's picture

Go to visit or to the funeral with your husband, for his sake. He will need your support. Don't worry about anyone else.

emotionaly beat up's picture

Depends very much on how your husband feels. If he is devastated by the death of his mother and he needs you there to support him. If you feel you can deal with it go.

However if this is one if those deaths that people have almost a sense of relief about (and there are many) don't go.

My FIL did something a year ago that was do hurtful I have had nothing to do with him since. I will not attend his funeral I will not step foot in the town he lives in. I know that at the big Italian funeral people will be weeping and wailing and trying to throw themselves into the grave with him. I also know that despite their best attempts no one will actually do it, they always make sure someone is blocking their attempt. And besides that they need to hang around to get their share of the spoils

My husband will not be heartbroken when his father dies. If course he will feel sad at the passing of his father, but he will not be devastated. I suspect his biggest emotion will be relief. Under those circumstances there is no need for me to be there.

You have no respect for this woman she had none for you. There is nothing for you to mourn and I imagine part of you will feel relief just as I and my DH would in regards to his father

The decision is yours to make and there is nothing wrong with you for feeling the way you do. Under the circumstance you could hardly be expected to feel anything but a sense of relief.

Rags's picture

Not sure how an evil manupulating hag goes to heaven but if that makes you feel better so be it. Yes you should go. Funerals are not for the dead, they are for the living. You need to be there for your DH. However, do not tolerate one microgram of crap from anyone. If they get nasty, go factual on their toxic asses. If SDIL says one word about you contributing to MILs death you should very directly point out that negative toxic people do not need others to motivate their demise, they cause their own misery. Etc, etc, etc..... If anyone goes there just give them a hug and say "I understand that you are hurting because your mother/sister/aunt/etc has passed, however if you insist on blaming others for her and your state of toxic anger you will die angry and alienated from many of the people that love you just like she did."

Again, be supportive of your DH but do not be anyone's door mat. Facts are not good or bad, they are just facts and if you have to recount the facts of your MILs toxic life to get her toxic minions to STFU so be it. Just because you are a Christian, as am I, no one said you had to tolerate crap from people in your life. You can stand up for yourself and be both assertive and forgiving.

I am sorry for your loss.

LRP75's picture

Your MIL sounds like my mother: a classic NPD.

My mom pulls the same crap: playing the victim and making up lies to blame and deflect her behavior onto everyone else. Especially me. It's the exact reason why I haven't spoken to her in 9 years. Why bother when she is just going to treat me like crap; disrespect my boundaries; make up bullshit lies to tell everyone about me (to make them hate me and like her); and sabotage everything positive I've ever had in my life.

You're better off with her hating you, because frankly, the alternative is that she likes you. And if she likes you, what would that say about YOU? You know?

Sorry things are hard for you though. I totally get it. The games NPD's play are ridiculous.

In regards to attending her funeral: What does your husband want? We don't go to funerals to honor the dead (at least I don't), but to honor those who mourn their passing. I would say that if your husband wants you by his side to support him during his time of loss, then you should. However, if HE doesn't care, then there is no reason for you to attend. Who cares what other people think. Your choices are between you and God, no one else need to understand. Especially not people who, no matter what you do, simply want to believe the worst in you because of what someone else told them about you. Those people are the ones who will have something to answer for at the end of their lives, not you.

Consider Proverbs 16:2 (NIV): All a person’s ways seem pure to them, but motives are weighed by the Lord.

Honor your husband, pray for her soul and for comfort for those who mourn, and you will have done right by our Lord.

20YearsAsAStep-Mom's picture

You don't need to go unless DH needs you. You say you are moving away, so whatever happens after the funeral you won't be around to be witness to it.

These toxic people will never realize they are the makers of the own misery. They like to blame others and will not change. Protect yourself and your DH - live your life and let it go.

forgotten wife's picture

i don't think i would go. i would be so uncomfortable waiting for the inevitable snipe, and you know it's going to come based on past experience.

what's the result of you not going? they hate you more?

if i were you, i would speak to my DH and tell him what you fear will happen. i would also tell him that you WANT to be there for HIM and to support HIM, but should some of his relatives be nasty to you, you will expect HIM to support YOU and put them in their place.

the key ingredient here has to be YOUR interpretation of what they're doing, not his. he can't be allowed to say it's all in your mind or they didn't mean what you think they mean. if it's going to be that way, then i definitely would NOT go.

he may elect to skip the drama and just let you stay home.

jennaspace's picture

Stepaside, I had thought about writing you before because it sounded like you had a situation similar to mine and you have sage words. It seems to be unusual that a MIL takes the place of BM, or at least I don't see much written about it here.

"She was ready for me when I first got married. She made sure to let me know that she was in charge of my DH's situation with his children and his ex. She made the comment that blood is thicker than water. She poisoned everyone against me and the effects are permanent. "

That was my MIL. From the time I came into the family she made it clear that she was the head of the family and skids and that she that I was an outsider. She held relationships with SD and SDIL (who is very divisive) tightly and used them against me. If I invited one person to a dinner or coffee they would angrily bring another and then treat me rudely in my own house, even going so far as attempting to walk out without telling me when I asked my DH to get salad dressing for a dinner (I was taking him away from them).

All dinners (father's day, my DH's birthday, Easter) were at here house where she could recreate a family setting for DH and kids via 6 hour long dinners she attempted to hold biweekly when we had less than 2 days off a wk.

There was so, so much more that she did. I have vowed not to let DHs family toxin take over any more days with my own family. Today is a day off so I won't go into the "best of" stories that I'm probably just repeating. To summarize she was simply used mean, small & very thinly veiled passive aggression tactics that were difficult to call her on (due to the PA). e.g. lot's of gossip but I wasn't invited to the conversation.

I'm convinced that the only difference between people who act like the stereotypical Jerry Spring guest and people like my MIL is finesse. Some simply have the ability to dissimulate their feelings better than others. I wish she would have tried to duke it out Jerry Springer style. Then I could have walked away and everyone would have known why. Instead she acts nice to me on the surface but was overtly passive aggressive when no one was looking. The one time she did this in front of her family, even they were mad at her because it was so rude.

"She was the team leader for my SD's. She capitalized on their fears that their father had moved on, and used them to neutralize me as a threat and make them 100% loyal to her. And they are to this day.

She IS the matriarch in my DH's family. She knows everything. She does not listen. She does not know how to co-exist. If she can not dominate a person, she will pit them as her enemy. That has been true in almost every relationship she has had with members of her own family. She is very much like her mother was.

I also disengaged. I am no match for the army she created."

Also my MIL to a to a T. Just trade SD for SD and SDIL. I just don't get what the benefit is. My guess is they didn't know that by kicking me, they were kicking DH and son. Sooner or later (much later than any one of them would have put up with) I was going to protect myself and back away. DH lost respect for all of them, esp SDIL and MIL (the most aggressive) and the less I go, the less they all go. Not because I insist DH not go (I encourage him), simply because he's not relational and he makes almost zero effort.

I have not completely disengaged with MIL. I still take her out with DH in a neutral setting. Because of the verse "Honor you mother and your father" as well as the verse about widows 1 Timothy 5:16 ESV "If any believing woman has relatives who are widows, let her care for them. Let the church not be burdened, so that it may care for those who are truly widows." I took this to mean I should not cut her off, I simply stop attending full family functions at her home due to the rudeness.

My MIL is different in that she in religious in word only. She attended church for years but doesn't seem to take religion to heart.

She has said to my DH "I just wish jennaspace would forgive me!!". This after I confronted her (finally after 6 yrs because she said something overtly) and she said everything I said was a mistake. All that she did was out of love or concern. I honestly had given her more credit up until that point.

Next time I saw her, I told her I was trying to forgive her but I simply wasn't going to all the functions. I can't remember if I said this or not, but it's because I am not reconciled to them.

I may go to the funeral but honestly I know my DH would prefer me not there. He will be conducting the service so we will not be together most of the time. He is not the type that feels supported by another person being there. It's strange. When he's been in really difficult situations (people on boards attacking him) I say "I'll come" and he's indicated that would be fine but wouldn't help him. He's kind of a soft version of John Wayne, he really gets his strength from within (His God mostly and then his temperment).

I better run, I do want to visit her. She may go in for a pacemaker but she may very well not make it as she is elderly. Thanks for all your support!

sandye21's picture

What would the purpose of you going? You wouldn't be going to honor your MIL. You say DH will not be able to sit with you so you will not be there for him. Is there anyone besides DH that you would want to comfort? Ask DH if he wants you to be there. If he says, "No", don't go. If he says, "Yes", stay in the back, low profile. I've been in your situation and beleive me - it's tough. Have to say though that I attended a funeral of a family member who was so nasty that when he died I felt the sense of relief you were talking about. I did not gloat but I could not fully disguise my feelings even though I really tried hard. I was put down for not showing a sense of loss - which was the truth. But since the truth was revealed about this person, no one has mentioned it. If you are not needed at the funeral, don't go.

NancyL's picture

This does not make any sense. First of all, you say that you hate your MIL, but then you invite her to live with you. You blamed everything on your MIL and gave your DH a pass. I'm sure your DH will expect you to go to the funeral of his mother, that is if you intend to stay in this family.

forgotten wife's picture

all i can say is never, never, never let anyone from your H's family live with you. it will destroy your marriage.

i truly believe that's where the warning, "no good deed goes unpunished" came from. :sick:

Krispey Kreme's picture

Agressive, narcissistic people who don't respect boundaries love to find "people-pleasers". They will do as much damage as they are allowed. Normal, loving people are at a loss around these kind of people, we don't know how to defend ourselves. And it is so very hard to defend yourself from PAS and RA people. Expecially when a group of like-minded people gang up on you.

I learned how the hard way. A few years ago, my MIL, SD41 and a girl who was set to be my future DIL (a good school friend of my DD-or so we thought) ganged up and tried to single DD and me out to RA/PAS us both. I would describe them all as agressive, domineering, jealous and narcissistic.

MIL and SD41 were immediately attracted to future DIL, it was eerie-like they recognized their own types in each other-all three hateful, dysfunctional peas in a pod. They started a campaign of dirty tricks against DD/myself and tried to divide the whole family. They thought they were so smart. And I didn't see it coming. It was pretty awful and it didn't work. My bios and I are tight. And we don't play that game. My son broke up with this girl because of her crazy behavior (thank God!), my DD doesn't speak to this "false-friend" anymore and my DD avoids SD41 (her half-sister). I detached from SD41 and MIL to the point where I see them maybe a few times a year. I barely acknowledge MIL or SD41. They can both go pound sand. I know what they tried to do. They know I know. I let DH deal with them now. SD41 learned of my detachment last year at Christmas because I didn't buy her anything, I let DH handle it (and he handled it badly). Same for MIL. It will be that way from now on. When people try to attack you and hurt you, the only thing you can do is detach. Moving away sounds like a good plan also. Distance and boundaries....

Jenna, I'm glad MIL didn't move in on you. It would have been too ugly to think about. And the damage she caused would have lasted a lifetime.

hereiam's picture

My DH will not be with me at all because he physically has to attend to other things.

My DH actually probably want me to stay home

If your DH is not going and does not want you to go, don't go and do not feel bad about it. You did not respect her and the rest of the family doesn't seem to want or need your support so there really is no reason for you to attend.

jennaspace's picture

Thank you all for your replies. I am going to visit her now, her heart rate is in the 40's and cardiologist does not plan on putting her in a pacemaker.

I did invite her to live with us because I believe I have a responsibility to her as my DH is her only child. A granddaughter has offered to so that will probably happen instead.

My husband will conduct the service. He really will be busy and up front the whole funeral. I generally don't bring up that my husband is a pastor because that always seems to conjure up all sorts of things good and bad in people's mind. I actually used to feel distant from someone as soon as they mentioned they were a pastor's wife. I am a Christian but I am just a regular person who became a Christian later in life after a very non Christian upbringing. I am usually very much on my own at all weddings and funerals because my husband is running them.

I have to run, I will visit her. I never stopped visiting her completely (just less) because I thought that was wrong as a Christian (she is a widow). I just stopped going to the events at her home where I was given a lot of grief.

Natalia Ely's picture

My biological mother in law died before I met my husband (she was only 50, breast cancer -- he was about 20). His father's third wife is an artist -- at life and at painting, blah, blah, blah. She and the father were narcissists with a hippie slant and we were like atheists at a Bible Convention but with the gloss that we didn't drink or worse yet indulge in marijuana and psychdelic drugs. Nor did we adore the Greatful Dead. When we arrived at family gatherings (my own disfunctional familly members lived in separate countries). Like many adult children of alcoholics plus, my husband was an adultified child who wanted to take care of everyone. He wanted our kids to have a normal life and big mistake, I played along. My kids evaluated their paternal grandfather and his wife at their own estimate and adored them even though it was pretty clear to me these folks didn't love anyone but themselves and wanted fans not family. That they knew people who knew members of the Grateful Dead was a big support to their monstrous self-esteem. I mean, I liked the music but don't attend subscribe to that religioun. When it comes to idolizing, I've always had an attitude problem. Except for my lack of feeling, I did everything that could have been expected of a daughter-in-law like a good little hypocrite in order to avoid upsetting my husband. I even kind of spotted the time FIL went into final decline and coereced BIL and husband to take turns spending the night at the family "home."

I belabor all this as an entry into immortal words of advice given casually in an Agatha Christie murder mystery. DON'T BOTHER TO BE NOBLE,DEAR. NO ONE EXPECTS IT OR WILL NOTICE IF YOU DO. There is no heaven for unfavored daughters in law. You walk onto a fixed stage. I'll never forget the mother of a boyfriend who commented to me "You'll do very well with [my middle son]. You both think you're better than other people." She'd known me for one weekend in which I had been as plesant as I could be in the hope of being shown some clippings from her exciting professional life. And this is what she said to me! If I had married her son, thirty years later, she would have hated me even if I were a sort of married Mother Theresa. I can't say I made got a better set of in-laws in the end.

emotionaly beat up's picture

Daughter in laws are not blood. When push comes to shove, your out, they're in. Bad blood is better in the family than good in-laws to some people.

My FIL had a good relationship, well very good actually, so I thought.

When I had issues with his grandaughter, who by the way had barely spoken to him in the last 10 years that I know of, couldn't even be bothered telling him she was pregnant, only told him when the baby was 2 weeks old. However, because of years and years of her abuse, which she took to greater heights when baby was born, I banned her from my home. She suddenly felt the need to be close to her Nono, went straight to his house and told him her sob storry. Obviously didn't tell him what she had been up to, only that I had banned her from my home.

FIL promptly took her side, he never question me, he may have questioned my husband, but he would have acted dumb so his father would have blamed me anyway, because this daughter walks on water. So, FIL stops talking to me, FIL tells SD and he boyfriend whom he had met 3 times (but boyfriend is Italian, I'm not), that they can both come to my house anytime they want and ignore me. Boyfriend made it a point to bail me up at the local shops to tell me this. Now, I hadn't spoken to boyfriend or Sd for a year, yet he couldn't wait to fill me in on this.

SD did nothing for her grandfather ever. I did every single thing that man asked of me. SD apparently has gone up to stay a couple of times and according to SIL FIL cracks it big time, he is almost 89 yet SD sits on her bum while he cooks for her and her family, and when she leaves she doesn't so much as strip the bed. Yet she is blood. So even though I cooked, cleaned, washed and ironed for him for years and did a lot of things for him, I was out and she was in.

I am gutted by this, but FIL has shown me loud and clear. I am not family. I owe FIL nothing, he in fact owes me a huge apology, but it will never come. Would I go to FIL's funeral, NO. He has in fact thrown me out of his family, just as I threw his grandaughter out of mine. Difference is of course, I did not cause FIL one ounce of grief or trouble in all the years I knew him. SD wants her father, this man's son dead, she wants me dead, always has and made no bones about letting us know. SDs boyfriend told DH if he wanted to see the baby then he had to leave me.
Not expecting they told FIL this, and my husband would never tell his father how bad his daughter has been. Not to protect his daughter of course, but to protect himself. A bad daughter he sees as a reflection of himself. Still, he is right there. He has been an awful parent to his children.

jennaspace's picture

I just got home, it doesn't look nearly as bad as I had heard. Her heart rate is low due to a med, not sudden slow heart rate (30-40 beats per minute) due to heart disease. Big difference. I talked to her Dr. and he actually is willing to put in a pace maker but probably won't need to.

I was running off to the hospital when I first posted and did not clarify properly.

I misspoke when I said I offered for MIL to live with us. I meant living with us in the same city. We are moving across the country and whoever ends up with MIL will end up being a care giver of sorts(even if she is in senior living) just due to her age and needs (visits, medical advocate etc...). I doubt she'll live more than 2 years. She's over 80, overweight and sedentary. What we offered was that we would be willing to have her move with us when we moved (same city, not same house). We would be her only family in that state so that would be a lot of responsibility. I wanted to make sure she felt her only child was willing to live by her before she dies. No one means more to her than my DH. I knew she probably wouldn't take us up on it after my yr of disengagement. I was right.

I was really proud of the fact that when I entered the hospital I was at peace and did not feel that old pit in my stomach. I was barely stressed about running into anyone of the family members I haven't seen in a year since I disengaged.

I've really changed since this whole step business. I don't care what others think about me like I used to. I'm not trying to impress or convince anyone of my good intentions any more. It's a nice place to be though I had to go through war to get here.

Krispey Kreme's picture

Seeing my MIL, BM and SD41 in action over the years has made me want to be different. Knowing the pain and trouble they caused made me want to behave better than that. I've made a concerted effort to be a good MIL to my bioDD's husband. I let my SIL know how much I appreciate the loving, respectful way he treats my DD and how hard he works. I brag him up all the time, just like my bios. And I stay out of their personal business. When my son marries, I will be the same way to his wife. I pray that he finds a worthy girl to marry. I tell him no crazies, addicts, users, losers, alkys or stalkers. And I warn him about the perils of skids (he's seen this up close and he avoids single mothers). We dodged a bullet with his last fiancee, she was just another nasty little viper and tried to join up with SD41 and MIL to stir trouble. I'm so glad he broke it off with her.

jennaspace's picture

SA I feel the same. I also feel for you because for me it's been less than a decade. You could write a new best seller "Four angry women" (instead of men). Poor joke but it helps to have to have sense of humor in this craziness (I hope, sorry if not).

I'm actually afraid of what I might say if someone makes one comment in that direction when she does die, which will likely be soon. I grew up in a home where the f*** you's flowed freely. It comes pretty naturally to me, but I don't desire it. I really don't want to react that way when the hissing starts. That's another good reason not to go. I don't want anyone to have that kind of power over me (to get me mad). As you say, he who angers me, conquers me. If I don't go, I won't have to worry about my reaction.

At least I felt calm yesterday and was prepared to run into someone. I felt I could have held my head high through the whole thing and that's all I want. If I can provide some measure of comfort to him and yes even to her, then I'll have honored God which is the only one I care to impress at this point. I'll let God be my judge and hopefully stop reacting when they pull out their capes and gavels. Why should I care? I believe we'll all stand before God alone and my hope is to honor Him while I live and not waste years having others actions determine mine.

jennaspace's picture

I'm sorry we've all had to deal with people like this in our lives. I hope we can rise above it and not let bitterness eat away at us. It's so hard not to be bitter when the primary equation is your giving=a kick in the teeth over and over. Then we are yoked to these enemies by our husband's love for them for our lifetime. I'm willing to wipe the dust off my feet and walk away. I hope all of us have that opportunity.

emotionaly beat up's picture

Walking away and having nothing to do with people who choose to abuse you does not have to leave you bitter. I have been terribly hurt by my husband and his family. I'm now done with the family. I'm happy with that decision. I am relieved by that decision. I am not in the least bit bitter. In fact I am completely content and at peace now. Something I haven't experienced in years.

I am sorry for my husband and his family. They are a very negative bitter never happy group of glass half empty people. Nothing ever seems to please then. They can never enjoy life. Someone or something is always doing then wrong.

The weight people like that put on themselves and others drags you down and keeps you down. Life is brighter knowing its over. I do not have to deal with them anymore.

I have come to the realization my husband cannot deal with his issues let alone the issues of his family. Ultimately his family will destroy him but I will not allow DH or his family to abuse me ever again.

I an grateful in many ways for the experience. Sure I didn't like how they made me feel but they did because if their treatment of me, make me a stronger wiser person. Sd in particular caused me to say enough is enough. Because of her I fought hard within myself to regain some self esteem. If only she knew instead of breaking me she made me stronger. I haven't got time to be bitter. I'm flat out laughing at how much confidence self respect and pride in myself DHs family gave me in their efforts to destroy me because I married their father.

sandye21's picture

It does seem as time goes by after you have made the decision to disengage the better you feel about it, doesn't it? And also as time goes by the more determined I am never to go back.

jennaspace's picture

Disengaging is what has really decreased the bitter feelings also. It's been a year now and I can't believe how free I feel. It's primarily when something like this comes up (possible funeral.. gathering, blame), that the rat in a trap feeling reemerges. My anxiety is decreasing as each month passes since disengaging.

This whole thing has made me a stronger person too. It's also made me more jaded sadly. In retrospect, I can't believe I let my MIL & some of DH's fam have the influence they did. Their actions were such a waste as I would have loved to have had a good relationship with them.

By trying to crowd me out, they lost more than they bargained for... the loss of respect from DH as well as time spent with him and my child.

Krispey Kreme's picture

Disengaging and having a safe outlet to express all my pent up bewilderment, anger and hurt. It feels so good to let it out and be heard. And by doing so, it is helping me to let it go.

It's like having a terrible stomachache for 33 years and finally having it fade away. So sad it had to come to this.

emotionaly beat up's picture

Sandye you are absolutely right. And every day they are not in your life is a blessing. It only took me a few weeks to get over the last unexpected attack. Now that's down from a few years to wake up to myself then a few months to get over all the crap that came up after I sent Sd packing.

Best of all. The last incident with SD's boyfriend was a blessing in disguise. That cut all ties between myself and DH's family. You once said I would look back on this and laugh one day. I knew you were right. I just didn't think it would be this soon. Christmas is almost here and I don't have the slightest feeling of anxiety over it. For years Christmas has been made miserable by DH and his family This Christmas I will spend with my kids and grand kids and there will be no 4 hour drives for me to see FIL who would greet us with a long face complain we didn't arrive early enough immediately ask when we would be leaving then complain wr weren't staying long enough

They are a very unhappy family nothing ever pleases them and they let you know it.

Roll on Christmas 2012 I am going to love you.

Natalia Ely's picture

Jennaspace you are rising to the occasion and behaving with grace. I doubt you will regret it and even though I said earlier that no one expects/notices you to be noble, I think a lot of people have noticed you behaved with grace, including me.

I'm still anti-nobility -- that just makes you feel like a chump. But grace -- that's when you lean without falling over.