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Letter to My DH....LONG....Sorry

NewBeginning's picture

Dear DH,

Things with your daughter are slowly escalating. It's not something that has happened overnight - it's taken a while to reach this point. There are many things you need to know and it may not be what you want to hear but it's what you NEED to hear.

Your incessant need to keep your daughter preserved as a child is wearing thin. As much as we would all like to keep our children young and innocent, it's not at all possible. You're trying to do the impossible and it's gonna slowly eat a hole right through our marriage.

What I need from you is the ability to change your way of thinking. I'm not asking you to disown your child. I'm not asking you to forget she exists. I can tell you think I feel these things. What I am asking from you is to realize what she has become and is still becoming. I know you love your daughter and you should. She's your child and I expect nothing else.

You and your ex wife were so entranced by your failing marriage that this child completely went off on her own. She found out that if she made up drama and manipulated people she got attention. She found that if she did all this, it brought the attention she failed she wasn't getting full tilt. She realized that no matter how hard she tried she couldn't keep Mommy and Daddy together because Mommy was having sex with several men. She also realized that Mommy was a thief and a master manipulator/liar. And that if Mommy said it - then it MUST be true because Mommy never lies. She saw her father then begin to date a concession of women that were never good enough for him because he always found something wrong with them..and that was because he had dealt with so much shit from his ex wife, he just was truly not ready to date. He only felt he had to in order to move on. It felt good to have attention again and your daughter watched as you made your way in the world while thinking she was no the center of the universe.

Your daughter watched you and your ex battle it out continually. She watched your crumbling marriage fall apart all around her and the only thing she knew to do was create all sorts of drama to keep that family feeling alive. You were too busy trying not to be alone to deal with your daughter's dramas..you put them off to your ex wife having issues and was becoming a psycho.

You felt that if you acknowledged them then you were allowing yourself to see you had a HUGE part in her behavior. She began having sex at 15..you blamed your ex when you fail to remember she lived with you and you were the responsible parent at the time. She was having sex under your own roof and you chalked it up to your ex and her cheating ways. You put your daughter on birth control pills and thought the problem was solved. You put a bandaid over the growing problem that was brewing.

All that to only have your daughter demand she move in with her mother because her mother was playing on her mind. Was conniving behind your back. You watched as your child moved in with Mommy and never even gave you the address at which she lived. THAT is fucked up. She and her mother never even allowed you to know where she was living. And she was only 16 years old. You gave her authority that she had NO right having. And you did it because you wanted her to feel you loved her.

That was not love..that was fear. You feared if you chased after your daughter then you'd lose her. So you allowed her to move in with her worthless mother, quit school, and become the spitting image of her waste of life mother.

I come along in your life. I come from an 18 year marriage to a man that cheated on me. I have a very different outlook on life and there is not a lot that I will take from a person. I work hard for my paycheck, do not believe in adultery, and am a very good person. You began to put me on a pedestal to your family and they all grew to know me and love me. When I first met your daughter, I could tell she was not 100 percent with me. I was an instant threat..I was nothing like her mother. NOTHING. We are like night and day and the fact that I am like this makes her mother's faults stand out more than they ever have. I didn't bring drama to the table and I'm genuine..what you see is what you get. I made her look full force at her mother and exactly why your marriage broke up. Her dad was now happy when he should have been happy before, but couldn't because her mother was constantly cheating..never worked..and lied through her teeth. Family members began to talk about how much you've changed and how it was due to me. You were ecstatic for the first time in many years and because of that it brought out to her VERY forcefully that it meant another person was the reason behind his happiness.

I'm sad to say this but I would have to be blind to not feel your daughter has a mental illness of some sort. Whether it's from the shock of the divorce or truly a mental imbalance - she clearly needs help. She's acting like a small child when they want to be heard. Instead of speaking and talking things out, she makes up lies. She manipulates people. She has never learned how to fully say how she feels as an adult. She resorts to childish behavior to be heard because that's all she knows. That's always been responded to by others when she did it and she's used to getting a response.

Your job is to STOP responding to it...or just simply respond differently. You need to get back the set of testicles she took from you a LONG time ago. They have been hung on her rear view mirror for years...time to dust them off and use them. Step up the plate and be a man to your grown adult daughter.

And - quit expecting me to follow in your design..and that is to return down memory lane as to how your daughter was young, innocent, and blameless. Look at her today..NOW. See her for what she has become.

As of last night, she has now stolen money from me. She has started rumors in your family about me that could have caused major discord and hatred from your family members. The only reason the rumors did not get believed? Because your family has dealt with your daughter's bullshit for years..she is LEGION for lies with them. Thank GOD they knew to ask me first on these rumors, for they were so viscous that I could have lost everything with your family.

Her mother is a thief as well. She robbed a gas station while with you..or did you forget? We just found out the hard way last night that your daughter has EVERY last trait of her mother. Every behavior and seems to be proud of it. She is now a thief in my eyes as well as a liar.

Her lies are endless..she's had people convinced she's in college while she's never gotten a high school diploma. She's said she was dying of a brain tumor..cervical cancer..has been in Hollywood movies...has partied it up in California with famous actors yet there's no proof or pics, which we all KNOW we'd be showcasing. She has sat and lied to your face right in front of me and other family members.

Do you not see it or are you CHOOSING to not see it? Either way..it's scary.

You are allowing your grown, married with child, ADULT daughter act in the way she does with no repercussions whatsoever, allowing her to feel it's okay to still be this way. And to her..that makes life worth living. You are a good man..a very good father. And you would do anything for your kids. And that's honorable but it's also your downfall. She plays you like a huge fiddle due to your good heart. I could do a 2step to how well she plays that fiddle. And your willingness to overlook YOUR part in her behavior is rather sickening.

You are DADDY to her..the man that has always been there for her - no matter what. And that's what a good father does. But what else he does is let his children know when they are doing wrong..it's called tough love. Instead of making excuses for her behavior...ACCEPT it. Accept what she's become. She is the product of you and your ex wife. She is the by product of 2 parents that fell apart and instantly flew into 'who is the better parent' trap.

I AM YOUR WIFE. You may have had to live with her actions and behavior for quite some time, but now I'M living with it as well. I don't have that bond with her that you do..I can't sit around and imagine her running in a field of wildflowers and singing 'The Hills Are Alive with the Sound of Music' as a child as she gets into my purse and steals money from me. I do NOT have that ability. And I never will. Do NOT ask me to not hold something against her that she has done to darken my name either.

To me...your daughter is an adult. She is in my life because I fell in love with you and married you. I didn't chose to put her there. If not for you, she is not someone I would have in my life. And that's because of her actions. Not because I don't like her..not at all. Because I chose to surround myself with people that enrich my life...and she would not if she were not your daughter. So because she IS your daughter, I have tried to be the adult about it as her sickness grew. I have overlooked so much when it comes to her and I am not willing to keep overlooking like I have in the past so no waves are made.

I watch as your family comes together at things such as her wedding and her child being born, but then know that they would all rather be someplace else. They hide very well how they feel..and that's all for your sake. Your family loves you but is scared to let you know how they really feel towards your daughter. They have been lied to repeatedly and played like a cello on Broadway too - just like you have. If you would sincerely sit down and talk to them...and LISTEN to them..you'd see they love you AND your daughter. You would see how hard it is to have love for someone and yet not be able to fully trust or believe his child..how scary it is for them. They would tell you how worried they are for your own sanity as well as your daughter's. And now for the new baby that she brought in this world. Your family loves you dearly.

Your daughter is just like her mother..and you need to remember you divorced her mother. You got to a point where you couldn't live with her actions. Now your daughter is doing all that your ex used to do. Only you can't divorce her..but you do NOT have to take her lies and constant need to manipulate. Loving someone doesn't mean you take whatever they dish out. You need to tell yourself it's time to move on and quit looking back. Time to look at what she's become and set boundaries where you never have before. I watch you look like you just lost your mind when you find out she's mad at you for something..so what if she's mad? She'll get over it. When she finally sees she can't get you to bow down to her then - and only then will she see she has no ground to stand on.

Will you ever do this? I'm not sure but if I had my guess, you 2 will still do the sick dance you do. Drama gets created...you 2 fight..BM gets blamed for it all..then you both are lovey-duvey a day later. And all the while you ride high on guilt..EXACTLY where your daughter wants you. And exactly where YOU allow her to put you.

So keep in mind that while your daughter is YOUR daughter..she's also an adult. An adult that is lying and now stealing from our home. THAT is NOT acceptable or thought of to be okay due to the fact she's family. In fact, it makes it 10 times worse because she IS family. How do you steal from family?

Don't expect me to speak of your daughter much in the upcoming days until I come to grips with this either. She stole from me..THAT is serious. She took her sense of entitlement, got into my purse, and stole money from me we needed for bills. THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

'Family' should be the very reason she didn't steal...so you better wise up quick. I love you but am not willing to keep excusing her behavior. Not in the slightest. Your inability to ignore her actions is making me lose respect fast for you. It eats a piece of me away every time I see you excuse her. Life is too short to live with such dramas...so stand your ground quick while you still have even a half inch. And I'm not for sure you even have that tiny mark. You've allowed her to chip away at you for so long you pretty much are floating on air.

I love you but this bullshit has to stop. Face what you've created and quit hiding. Truth hurts but we all need to hear it every once in a while. Quit worrying about hurting your daughter's feelings..she sure doesn't worry as she's lying about someone and stealing from people's purses. Why give her what she doesn't give anyone else?

Your daughter stole money from my purse last night...I know it and you know it. The money doesn't matter - what matters is the idea she thought it was okay.

She took it upon herself to steal what was mine with no fear of repercussions because she never has them. She bats her eyelashes and calls you Daddy and you float back in time to her childhood and how innocent she was.

An innocent person doesn't act this way...time to fix what ya broke.

sixteensmom's picture

Will you print this and give it to him? Will he read it? If your mil is like my mil, and it sounds like she is, one hint that this happened will have mil in dh face about it Smile and as much guilt as dh has over his relationship w sd it'll be dwarfed by his relationship w his mother.

NewBeginning's picture

I'm sure he'd read it, but not sure he'd actually READ it..if you know what I mean...lol!!

I love his MIL..she'd be furious to know my SD stole from our home. And you're right - one word from my MIL to my DH and he'd see real quick. This is why his mother has things hid from her from him..he KNOWS. He simply knows she'll jump right on his daughter. His way of life is to protect his daughter..that's how he deals with her. Sad.

NewBeginning's picture

Then let me point out a few things.....

There's nothing to talk me out of for I don't know anywhere in my post where I stated I was giving this to him - do NOT put me in a position as being cold and callous. It's my own personal vent..that's why I posted it. This board is for us to state what we feel we can't in person. Just as you say - until I figure out a way to bring this forward in the correct manner..this is my way to get it out. If not, I'd hate to be the one bearing this inside myself and not talking about it.

By the term LEGION...I mean MANY. I'm not referring to her lies as legendary, which I'm sure they are. Legion means a vast multitude..hence my comment of her lies. Look the term up.

I've never spoken to him about anything his family has told me about her..nothing. And I've kept their confidences and plan on keeping them. In fact, it's the only way I feel I keep my sanity because I know I can talk to them about my SD and have an understanding from them. Where you're feeling I've drug them into this mess is beyond me. I've heard many things from them, but have never repeated their words to DH...I am very lucky to have his family be upfront with me and I appreciate that way too much to hurt anyone with my own problems with this brat. I will not resort down to SD's level for so many reasons..this being one of them. It's the sort of thing she would do..repeat words to start trouble. Do NOT put me in the same category as her. That's an insult at it's finest.

I'm fighting my own personal battle with this human being and I intend on keeping my husband's family out of it..and I also intend on keeping my marriage. So if I come on here with a huge rant like the one I posted last night, you need to stop and think it just may be because of these very reasons.

This board is for our venting, confusion, complaints, hurts...and God knows what else. I'm sure I'll have more in the future to rant about but as of last night, these were weighing on my mind heavily. The ENTIRE situation. And to type it out made me feel so much better. I'm sure many of us wouldn't have marriages if our partners saw some of the venom we spew on here. If you don't like what I have to say..simply don't read it. As for myself...it was my only outlet last night. Don't take what I write here as something I 'intend' on leashing on my husband. I love him dearly and he's actually the best thing to have happened to me in quite some time. Some things are better stated on here and that's what I've done.

When the poster asked me to print it out and give it to him and I made the comment he 'may' read it..that was in NO way meaning my intent was to do that. She asked a question out of her own wonderment and I'm sure her own personal situation...I answered it but did NOT state he was going to receive a copy in reality.

There is no way in hell I would print this out for him. Nor would I say all this stuff to him.

It's called VENTING...my one and only intent.

TheOtherMom's picture

I don't think you should print this and give it to him because you are an adult and adults have conversations. You have some very valid concerns. I DO think you should try to approach this with him and if he doesn't listen, perhaps you have a friend or family therapist who can help you two and mediate?
I don't know if you go to church but perhaps your local church has marriage counselors who can help negotiate.
I feel sorry for your husband but I also feel YOUR pain.
I wish you the best!

NewBeginning's picture

LOL..oh my!

Listen - I responded the way I did due to your assumption that I was going to drag his family members down.

You said "This is just wrong to drag them into whatever is going on between you, your husband, and his daughter."

Again - I DID not intend on giving him this letter. And hell no I never had the intent on giving it to him then decided not to because of someone's direct question on here. My words are very hurtful because I feel hurt..I would NOT put how I feel on my husband in such a way. I would never hurt him in that sense. I am smart in the sense that I know to never put my feelings on someone else to fix. Which is exactly what he'd try to do, but would only hurt him in the process for he'd feel he was being made to take sides.

And StepAside's comments were not assuming and were said in a way that is allowing a discussion if needed. I'll hear all valid points but what I will NOT hear are statements made that puts me in a light as low as the very thing I'm detesting from my SD. Which is that of a troublemaker.

Why would I do that to myself? Seriously.

TheOtherMom's picture

I completely disagree with you here Sueu2. Her husband is most likely motivated to action by his family so she is using that to get through to him. I assume you have never done that before?
And if it is really an issue, the family will speak up.
She is venting here.
STOP ATTACKING AND JUDGING HER YOU PURITANICAL, HYPOCRITICAL FOOL. Until you have spent a day in this person's shoes, you can't judge.

stronggirl's picture

Yea TheOtherMom!!!!....for a minute it seemed like people were trying to make her feel bad when this site is for venting and at a boys....and if you dont want to do that then dont respond to her posts....

NewBeginning's picture

Hey StepAside! Thanks for your input. I agree with you 100 percent that my message contains attacking words. And I also agree that most men do not like that..especially my husband..lol. So I find myself usually trying to weigh my options..pick my battles, so to speak. And sometimes I find I can easily speak to him about his daughter's issues, then other times I say nothing. I think we all get to know our partner well enough we know what battles are worth discussing.

You want to know the sad part of all this? And please...please..tell me if I'm making total sense because sometimes - like with my original post - I go on and on.

The sad part here is regardless of all the crap from his daughter..I UNDERSTAND why he loves her. She's his child..just like my daughter is my child. Now, my daughter is not a saint trust me. She's done things that has almost made me bald. And I've gotten so angry at her I thought I would literally lose my mind. So I know to an extent of how a parent can feel hopeless with their child. Only difference is - my daughter has never acted like my husband's daughter..no way close. So he has an entirely different set of behaviors/actions to try to get through from her. I never had to deal with lies, hurtful deceptions..and such viciousness that I see his daughter dish out. My daughter had the usual smart mouth and teenage angst that a teen usually goes through, but it was a rough time and it was hard raising a teenager on my own. My ex left when she was 14 and it was so hard. So I do know about how a child can test you.

He is such a good person..has the biggest heart I've ever seen in my life. I'm almost envious he can be so full of love towards people. He looks for the good in everyone and you can see it the very first time you meet him. His children are his life..to him, he created these human beings and he's such a big man on family values. I'm sure that his daughter has become such a huge embarrassment to him and deep down, he just doesn't know how to fully admit out loud how it hurts. She took all traditional values and kind of shoved them out the window.

When I found out my money had been stolen yesterday, the look on his face almost made me cry. To have the man I love dearly stand before me and say he knew it had to have been his daughter hurt me deeply. But not nearly as much as I could tell it hurt him. He comes to these points where he knows..he just KNOWS..he's got such a problem with her and just is at a loss as to what to do. So what does he do? He falls back to the loving father role and tells himself that no matter what his children do, he loves them regardless. He's so stuck in the life he wanted with his daughter that he can't function. Each time he tells me he feels she's changing..and trust me, she will go weeks and not do anything and she's a pleasure to be around..she will then do something so horrendous that they get into such a horrible argument that he states he never wants to see her again.

His mother has tried to talk to him about her. His mother is like me - very blunt. She has basically told him he cannot save his daughter and it's too late to try. My SD has stolen money from her, lied horribly to her, and just was not a nice person. And my MIL is the bomb..just a great lady. I'm sure to my husband it's hard to hear his mother tell him his daughter needs help. That would be very hard for me. Imagine your mother telling you there is no saving your own daughter? Mentally or emotionally?? Ouch!!

And then there's me - who is not afraid to speak her mind. He knows I know. I know how much he hurts over her actions and when I've gotten angry over her behaviors, it really brings to light that her behavior is not acceptable. Not anymore. It may have been if she was a mentally challenged 6 year old but she's a grown woman now. I like peace and discord. She brings the opposite to a person's life. And huge problems to families because she's so attention-driven that she will do anything to get the focus on her, meaning she would hurt someone in her family to get noticed.

I guess I mean I understand he wants to see the good in her. And that's because if he fully sees the bad he'll have to admit his part in it all.

You said -

"I think you stand to benefit if your DH could understand the crux of your message, his part in it and how he's not doing anyone any favors by continuing to respond to her as he does. His actions send the opposite message to his daughter. By having no expectations from her, he's telling her that he doesn't find her capable of being much more than a loser. It only fosters her sense of failure as an adult. He's putting his marriage at stake to continue doing what feels right to him, but is wrong to everyone else."

THIS IS SPOT ON!! You have no idea how great it feels to have that statement all in one place..you are so right! Gives me goosebumps. He would benefit so much from my words...IF he understood them. And knew my intent was to say I loved him but his actions were not acceptable to others due to him wanting to ignore the situation. By never expecting much from his daughter, he's allowed her to walk all over him and just keep doing it. His biggest fear is that his daughter will no longer love him one day BECAUSE he finally does speak out to her. So then her biggest fear?? - it would surely mean that HE didn't love HER anymore because he's always condoned her behavior. To suddenly change - like he has to an extent since he's been with me - would mean what she did was no longer a normal way of life.

And we all wonder why our SKs have a dislike to us? LOL!! We are the people that point out to our partners how blind they are. We point out that they need to react different because we get tired of seeing them walked on. We are the huge ass elephant in the living room in the situation suddenly..Daddy didn't change until he met his new partner. She has CLEARLY turned Daddy against me because I can no longer act in the way I choose.

They don't see their fathers as changing due to THEIR own behavior because they are too busy seeing him changing because of OURS. We are disrupting their way of acting that's always been accepted and condoned.

Know what my husband sees? His daughter might come in our home and say the sky is blue..he nods and says 'ok'. What do I do? I run outside and look. And I do it because of her past behavior. I have nothing to fall back on such as a bond or fond memories. I see her for what she is NOW. Which truly is a hot mess. I am only human and I agree with once bitten, twice shy. It's human nature to protect yourself from hurt and lies..it's inevitable. If it's happened enough, you begin to see this is the type of behavior you can expect from this person so your distrust sets in. Loving a person..mainly a child...you have a bond. A parent's love is unconditional. A stepparent has to learn to love that child and is not as willing to be accepting.

Somehow WE are expected to follow the lead of the biological parent and be accepting on all levels no matter what. And if we don't follow, then WE are the ones with the problem.

But yet - the stepchild is not expected to follow the lead of their parent and love us, respect us, sacrifice, compromise, accept us, or even care.

Why is that?

Something to think about...thanks StepAside for the book nod. I will have to check this one out. Wink

Breaking Poing's picture

I can only imagine the relief when you clicked on save after typing this. I just had a swell visit from SD25 this afternoon. She brings her dog over to hang out with my dog, we chat about pop culture, etc. It makes DH happy while I want to stick a taser in her underemployed lazy butt the entire time. Please - tell me about the steak dinner you have to buy because you lost a bet. What? That's the newest bar to go to? I really should go with you sometime ... Thanks. How about you should get a higher than minimum wage job, start paying your rent, car payment, car insurance, health insurance, phone bill, vet bills and all of the other things that you seem to forget are really part of being INDEPENDENT! It's like DH has a mistress except it is "The Princess." As which one of us has bought $100 shoes in the last year, hell the last three years. Ask who has forged business checks for personal use - I'll give you a clue, it's not one of the two owners and one of the two owners was the one who was chastised for bringing up the issue. SS28 isn't much better either. He works for a landscaping business in the Midwest so when the temperatures drop the greedy little paws will be out for his share of the dwindling pie. DH thinks he has done them so many favors in life handing them everything. HA! We have two more entitlement idiots floating around albeit not sucking taxpayer dollars - yet.