Extra Curricular Activities - need some advice
Ok everyone..I need some input.....
BM wants DH to pay for all sorts of activities that she puts SD in..like Girl Guides, Theater, Dance, Guitar, Swimming, ect..ect...ect... well this is the issue...BM does not ever speak with DH about putting her in a course, she does not get his input, half the time we dont know that SD is enrolled in anything until BM hands over a piece of paper with a dollar amount and says to DH "You owe me this amount of money for this course" Oh and by the way SD never finished one course that she has been enrolled in...
So that said...my question is how in he world does DH have to pay for all sorts of activities that:
a) he has no input in or doesnt even know that his daughter is enrolled in these courses
b) SD does not finish any course
SO, if BM goes to see her lawyer will my DH have to pay for something he is not even aware of.....
Any input would be great....many thanks... Z
Does the divorce ageement say
Does the divorce ageement say he has to pay for half of activities? My DH's agreement doesn't mention it so if she put SS in something we wouldn't pay we would expect her to out of the child support. Now if we put him in something we would pay and not ask her for half. If it doesn't say it in the agreement I wouldn't pay for it. Now if you and your DH want to put her in something then ya you should pay but if she is making these choices then she can pay. Don't give her any money but what you have to according to the divorce decree or custody arrangement.
Our co never specified. My
Our co never specified. My dh has had custody in the past and bm has it now. Neither has ever asked the other for money for extracurriculars-we put ss in quite a few during the years he lived here and all we ever asked was that he be allowed to attend most of them. She puts him in baseball every year and band. I dont even know what her costs are for these but she pays for them herself (of course she receives cs).
I dont think any one parent should make unilateral decisions about extracurriculars. I would indeed check your court order-if it does not specify. I would tell her no next time she asks unless it is something you really think she should do
The CO states they are to
The CO states they are to split any extra curricular activities (50-50) and my DH has no problem paying for his share. The problem is BM puts SD into all sorts of activities without consulting DH and then just hands him a piece of paper telling him he owes xxxx amount. And as I stated not only does BM not ask or speak with DH about any activity but then SD doesnt finish any activity.
Well except for Guitar..SD wanted guitar lessons so BM put her in guitar of course without any discussion with DH.....3 weeks into her guitar lessons, BM hands DH a bill telling him he owes xxx amount..DH tells BM that he will pay for the next session (which is for 6 weeks)but in the future he wants to be involved from the onset. So DH pays for the next 6 weeks and SD is doing vey well..so now it's BM's turn to pay for the next 6 weeks and she said No I'm not putting you back in..no reason just NO..but now SD is in cheerleading and that will cost $600.00 and of course DH was not consulted at all...BM just handed him a bill and told him he owes her $300.00 and the funny thing is she hasnt' even paid them yet.. arggggggh...
I just dont think it's fair that BM can put her into any activity with no intentions of ever discussing this with DH. I dont understand how he has to pay for half these activities when he's not including in any discussion and basically has no say in anything....
I'm so frustrated...I could scream..
Just say no....dear god. You
Just say no....dear god. You are giving her all the power here. If he says no, what is she going to do take it back to court for a few hundred bucks. I don't think so. The lawyers cost more than that....Tell him to grow a pair and tell the woman no.
He did say no and so now we
He did say no and so now we are expecting a letter from her lawyer..So the question is does he have to pay??? I mean really without every consulting him on anything will a judge make him pay???
No judge will tell him to
No judge will tell him to keep paying for a kid's activities when he has no say in what they are doing. You need to start documenting everything. Keep emails of everything. That has saved us with the lawyers. The horrible thing is you will spend more on the lawyers than what the activities would cost.
When the letter from the lawyer comes send it to yours and let the lawyers duke it out...That is what we do.
Just stop all communicating with her outside of email. You need it for the documentation. He needs to spell out the reasons why he won't pay in the email. Do not be accusatory just factual. That really works...
Thanks Jsmom I really
Thanks Jsmom I really appreciate your advice and will do what you recommended.
Again much appreciated...have a great day.... Z![Smile](https://prod-cdn-1.ststatic.com/sites/all/modules/contrib/smiley/packs/kolobok/smile.gif)
I don't know what state
I don't know what state you're in, but in most states you can call the Bar Association and get either a free consultation or a nominal fee for a consult. Since it is in your CO, you really need to consult a lawyer on whether or not you need to pay. The problem is that if she files a contempt charge on your husband for not paying his share, she could ask for attorney's fees. So, not only will he have to pay the cost of the activities, he will wind up with his and her lawyer bills.
It just isn't worth it. Check with an attorney in your area to protect yourself. Most on this site are not attorneys and are giving an opinion, not sound legal advice. Be very careful.
Thanks...totalybogus..we live
Thanks...totalybogus..we live in Ontario Canada..so yes I will contact my lawyer and see what he says..
Cheers... Z![Smile](https://prod-cdn-1.ststatic.com/sites/all/modules/contrib/smiley/packs/kolobok/smile.gif)
I agree with jsmom here stop
I agree with jsmom here stop talking to her about this. Also does the Co say that they both have to agree about these activities? If it does then she HAS to call and they both have to agree it is ok to put her in that activity BEFORE she is signed up. I would also get that changed to where he only has to pay under certain conditions such as if the child has certain grades and only so many a year. If it only reads that they split all activities that is CRAZY! You HAVE to limit it or the kid will go crazy b/c wants more money. I bet she is signing her up for them and getting the money from your dh and then tells sd that she can quit to keep the money why else would she not finish all the ones she is in??? It just sounds like a lot for a child to handle and school.
Hi purpledaisies...no the CO
Hi purpledaisies...no the CO only stipulates that the parties shall share 50/50 basis, the special expenses of the child as defined by Section 7 of the Child Support Guidelines. So I checked Section 7 and it's a little confusing. But from what I did read it seems that both parents have dicussions and decide accordingly.
SD is now enrolled only in Cheerleading and Girl Guides and Cheeleading hasn't even started..well that's what SD told us. As for other activities like drama/theater we did not pay a cent for that..I mean come on BM didnt pay and wanted DH's share..he just laughed at her and walked away..he didnt say a word to her, he simply walked away...OMG I was killing myself......
DH does not talk to her at all, last time she called he told her email me and hung up...done...
thanks for your input I really appreciate it... Cheers..Z![Smile](https://prod-cdn-1.ststatic.com/sites/all/modules/contrib/smiley/packs/kolobok/smile.gif)
My dd was in cheer for many
My dd was in cheer for many years and *I* paid for it all myself. It is very expensive however she was only allowed to be in 1 activity and she choose cheer! That is the difference that sd has no limits and she doesn't think about which one she REALLY wants to be in. Plus it sounds like she is in too many things to really be a kid and she is spread way to thin which is why she doesn't finish any of them.
Actually I would love for her
Actually I would love for her to be in Cheer...but I do believe the problem is that she is so bored at her BM's house that she wants to be involved in anything and everything....they do nothing and when I say nothing I mean nothing. When SD is at our house she is busy, we do so much as we are very active people so she loves that.. from biking, to hiking, swimming, camping, traveling, we cook together, do gardening..ect....
We see SD EOW....but this is what her schedule was like...
- Guitar lessons for 12 weeks (one lesson for 40 minutes per week) and now no more lessons because her BM said no...DH paid for a 6 week session.
- She started Girl Guides 2 months ago and that's once a week for one hour and we did not know about this (BM told SD that this is free..I know it's not because I was in Girl Guides when I was young).
- Swimming - was a 6 week course that she took level one and level 2..we did pay for this
- Cooking class - this was for 3 weeks and she did it twice (she did this last year)we did not know about this
- Beading Class - she went 2 last year never finished the course
- Hip Hop Class - she went 2 last year and decided not to go back.. BM asked DH to pay half and he said no she quit and I had no idea she was enrolled.
- Theater/Drama (I'm not sure the name of this class) she started at the end of September (we found out in October maybe November) and this was once per week for 1 hour - she quit this as well but BM wanted DH to pay half...oh and BM has not paid for this course at all yet..
So you may have a point..she is enrolling her and wanting DH to pay his share for all these activities..
BM must hate me because I told her we will pay the School, Teacher directly once we call to make sure she is enrolled and attending. But we will never give her a check ever again...and if DH is not involved in making any decisions as to what activities his daughter is in then he will not pay anything at all.
Sorry didnt mean to make this so long... Z