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Do you believe that Dylan Farrow is a victim of PAS and Mia Farrow is the alienating BM?

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Submitted by Pilgrim Soul on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 12:32pm

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I think i do. I read this piece by Woody Allen in NY Times today, and it all makes sense to me.
I always found it difficult to take that he married Soon-Yi but his account of his break up with Farrow makes more sense than Mia Farrow's own ranting ( i read her book). Farrow reminds me of my skids' BM: the woman who wants to be seen as Mother Earth, who is all about the children.
Not so fast...

Here is Woody Allen speaking out:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/opinion/sunday/woody-allen-speaks-out....

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Submitted by ctnmom on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 1:07pm

Interesting. Bottom line is though, he slept with/took dirty pictures of his 19 year old step daughter. This Dylan molestation stuff, whether real or fabricated, stemmed and took root from his unforgivable actions. Quite a mess.

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Submitted by jumanji on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 1:24pm

Soon Yi was never his step- OR adopted daughter. He and Mia were never married, and Soon Yi was adopted by Mia Farrow & Andre Previn.

But I have always found Allen uber creepy.

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Submitted by Pilgrim Soul on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 3:38pm

Some GF! Pillar of morality? She comes to the relationship with unclean hands - what standing does she have to discuss moral transgressions? Here is a quote from the Daily Beast piece by R. Weide:

While we’re on the subject, a word about this Sinatra business: To even say that Ronan is “possibly” Sinatra’s son implies that Mia was fooling around with her ex-husband decades after their divorce. Backdating from Ronan’s birthdate, it means that Farrow and Sinatra “hooked up” in March of 1987 when Mia was 42 and Old Blue Eyes was 71. This sort of dispels the myth that Woody and Mia had this idyllic, loving, monogamous relationship until Woody threw it all away in 1992, since Mia was apparently diddling her ex, five years earlier. If Mia was “just kidding” about the Sinatra scenario, it was an awfully insensitive thing to say, considering the fact that Sinatra’s wife, Barbara, is still very much alive. Did Mia stop to think how her coy tease might be perceived by the widow Sinatra? One can only wonder if this also fits Ronan’s definition of a “moral transgression.” (One may also wonder whether Woody is owed a fortune in reimbursement for child support.)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegat...

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Submitted by MarselleB on Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:31am

I agree, and some of these comments are darn right scary. He was screwing her daughter while being in a relationship with her, not only that she doesn't know how long he was doing that. Could have been when she was a minor. They sure aren't going to say, she was a kid off the streets of Korea, and by reports has a 2 digit I.Q. Typical of predators, they prey on children or the weak. Either way he was her father figure, because he was with that family for years, and Mia.

There is no doubt, he is a immoral perv. People he married his kids sister, what else is there to discuss. And of course she would ask the other kids if he molested them, first thing I would do after finding naked pics of my daughter in this creeps apt. You bet after that I would spend what I had to, to keep this person away from my children. His daughter is grown, and has her own mind and is basically sticking by her statement from the 90's.

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Submitted by ctnmom on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 1:33pm

Just some food for thought I think we all have our opinions that aren't likely to change. }:) 2 things: Mia gets along great with her ex husband, they are the best of friends. And obviously she got on great with Frank too. The odd one out is Woody. Second point: when Woody was accused, he vehemently denied he could've ever, physically, go into the attic because of his claustrophobia. During the criminal investigation, his hairs were found in the attic. Now he says he "popped his head in".

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Submitted by not2sureimsanea... on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 1:34pm

I can't say for certain but I don't personally think so. Mia Farrow's history isn't so squeaky clean either--being the other woman who got pregnant by someone else's husband... and her son with Allen might not even be his. Mia doesn't seem to be a particularly balanced individual.

I just think the timing is kind of strange of when the allegations came out, you know? I think she just got really hurt and I feel bad for Dylan because her letter is very sincere.

There's been so many instances of people having "memories" that weren't real from being coached. These memories can become very real to them, as real as if they happened.

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Submitted by MarselleB on Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:36am

He took her daughter away, alienated her from the family, molested her, took naked pics of her.

Are you serious?? He's lucky because if someone did that to my daughter and family, and I knew they molested the other one too, he'd be lucky to be walking around.

And she has the problem? I don't care if she is the biggest B, what have you...his behavior is well documented, and the creep wouldn't stop seeing her. Adding insult to injury to Mia, he married her and fathered more children. So he married his kids sister, and that make his children what to them, omg....

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Submitted by Pilgrim Soul on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 1:52pm

I get the same vibe, FCT: that Mia is one of those BMs. BTW, I have just found out that Ronan is Satchel - i remember reading about him when he was a baby, years ago. What does Mia Farrow want airing her belated thoughts re his paternity? Does she want to make it easier for Ronan - no genetic bond, no problem? Or is she out to castrate Allen by denying him the ultimate prize and setting him up to look stupid? I am leaning to the latter. She does look crazy.

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Submitted by JustAgirl42 on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 2:02pm

Obviously I have no idea whether or not he did it, but I would be PASing the crap out of my ex if he did!

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Submitted by Pilgrim Soul on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 3:43pm

Which daughter is that?

And while we are on the subject - nothing justifies PAS. NOTHING. I am saying it as someone who experienced it first hand as a child. For an adult to take the child's love for the other parent away for their own selfish reasons is inexcusable. Is a sin. Is a crime. PAS is child abuse. Can you think of a situation in which child abuse is justified? If you can, you need to seriously recosider your values.

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Submitted by Pilgrim Soul on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 4:00pm

From the same link above, Daily Beast:

#7: Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.

#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)

#9: Soon-Yi was borderline retarded. Ha! She’s smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.

#10: Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride. Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia’s own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody “had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi” so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly “had his eye on her” from the time she was a child.

Let me add this: If anyone is creeped out by the notion of a 55-year old man becoming involved with his girlfriend’s 19-year old adopted daughter, I understand. That makes perfect sense. But why not get the facts straight?

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Submitted by Pilgrim Soul on Sat, 02/08/2014 - 4:56pm

#8 is false because you lived in NYC in 1993? So did i, and it means nothing.

The guy writing on Daily Beast made a documentary about Allen for the PBS series American Masters, not for Lifetime Television for Women. I find his account convincing, and the words of Moses, which he quotes, even more so.

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Submitted by MarselleB on Tue, 02/11/2014 - 11:45am

She found nude pics of her daughter in his apt. knowing he was having sex with her. She didn't know for how long, obviously they weren't going to say. Could have been for years. This was while he was seeing Mia. Yes he was a father figure based on the fact Woody was seeing Mia and around the children.

At the time, a kid off the Korean streets, she was young and very naive. Easy prey for a predator like Woody.
He married his kids sister, and had children...

PAS fyi isn't even a legal term. No one can stop a parent, step parent, grand parents, friends from talking about their exes. You will never control this, and has been going on probably since marriage and divorce came about. It's really not something the courts can control. You would hope people would be mindful of the children but doesn't always happen.

In this case, I would use all the money I had to keep my kids away from Woody, especially when the young one said he did molest her. That would be nothing to do with PAS anyways. That would be keeping your children safe. He lost any rights imo.

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Submitted by Rags on Sun, 02/09/2014 - 12:14pm

For God sake, he married his adopted daughter. He needs to be in prison picking up soap in the shower for bubba the lifer.

Yes, I think he did it. I also think Mia Farrow is a fruit loop whack job Hollywood libtard who has a really bad case of scorned woman driven PASing psychosis.

All of their children, hers, his, theirs, are screwed. They are not just dealing with one end of their gene pools that is shallow and polluted. Their entire gene pools appear to be shallow and polluted.

In my laymans opinion of course.

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Submitted by jumanji on Mon, 02/10/2014 - 12:55pm

Soon Yi was NOT his adopted daughter. She was his g/f's adopted daughter. Still creepy, but...

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Submitted by stepnicole2010 on Mon, 02/10/2014 - 11:07am

Robert Weide's article in the Daily Beast is a disgrace IMO. He is a Woody Allen apologist, and interestingly, Woody's NYT letter sounds very very similar in tone and storyline.

Weide knows that he’s engaging in victim-blaming—but he’s doing it anyway. He writes: “I know I’m treading a delicate path here, and opening myself up to accusations of ‘blaming the victim.’ However, I’m merely floating scenarios to consider, and you can think what you will.”

You don't "float scenarios" about sexual assault victims! The balls behind this statement is insane. Floating alternative scenarios to contradict the testimony of a survivor of sexual abuse is not something one “merely” does. It’s actually a big deal—and a dangerously irresponsible thing to do.

Woody Allen married his daughter. Please don't start the "technically she wasn't his daughter" line. She was the underage daughter of his partner and the sister to his own children. He was a father figure in that house. All IMHO.

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Submitted by talia11 on Wed, 02/12/2014 - 12:28am

This might make you think differently.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/02/woody-allen-sex-abuse-10-...

Don't forget it is his job to write - he can spin at tale at the drop of the hat, and as this article shows above, there were many things wrong in his statement. There are also transcripts online of the original enquiry and it is vastly different to what he claims.

And it wasn't Mia that brought it up again, it was Dylan who did so because he was being honoured at the Golden Globes.