You are here

Ideas on how to handle the SS situation.

Unhappy's picture

So after posting earlier today I was able to calm down a little bit and think about everything a little more clearly. I called DH to discuss some of the ideas that I had in regards to SS's behavior.

1.) This behavior typically only happens when it's BM week or when BM is dropping SS off at the beginning of DH's week at school.

2.) Even though it's important to SS to go to school it's not fair to SS or DH by us punishing SS on our time for the stuff he's doing on BM's week especially if she is causing it by not listening to anybody and dropping SS off when she knows that he will probably freak out. DH has already asked her to stop taking SS to school until she gets things firgured out on her end and to have someone else take him to daycare and then have daycare drop him off. (Which is free BTW.) BM is refusing to do it because she doesn't want to have to depend on anybody else. That's great but it's not about BM it's about SS going to school which is more important then BM's wants and this is by no means a permanent fix.

3.) DH needs to let her know that if SS gets kicked out of kindergarten and she can't make him go to daycare either, how is she going to work?

4.) DH needs to let her know that they will be following the CO and do the exchanges at 6 pm on Sunday night instead of BM taking him to school on the folllowing day in order to prevent SS from freaking out on DH's week. If he has a temper tantrum at the time of the exchange at least it will be on Sunday night and not at school.

5.) DH needs to email SS's teacher to let her know everything that he is doing to prevent another outburst at school, that he has told BM repeatedly not to drop him off until she figures out how to get control of the situation and that she is refusing to do so, and that he can only parent on his time and has no authority to parent on BM's time.

6.) DH needs to tell BM that he has no porblem helping her with this but if she continues to set SS up for failure that he will not offer his assistance. He will no longer be rushing to the school when it's her time and she decided to drop SS off at school and freaks out. That it's her time and she needs to figure it out. DH can't continue to take time off of work in order to try and parent SS for BM.

7.)We need to work on more positive reinforcement with SS when he is with us in regards to his tantrums. Maybe do a sticker chart and everytime he has a good day he puts a sticker on it. When it gets to the end of the week without any temper tantrums I will take him out on a date. Some place like Chuckie Cheeses or to play laser tag. I've already talked to SS about it and he seemed really excited.

We typically don't deal with this type of behavior from him. Yes he does have temper tantrums with us but not to this extreme. We shouldn't have to punish SS because BM has no clue what she is doing. If anything she is building a case against herself for trying to get full custody. If she chooses to keep doing what she's doing she's on her own with it. DH and I will not help her parent her kids on her time.

SS really is a sweet kid when he's not having a huge fit. He's very lovey and fun to be around for the most part. I was really angry with him yesteday for almost causing a car accident while I was driving and everything else that happened, but he's not a bad kid. He just needs set boundaries consistency from DH. I've gotten to the point with DH where I don't even mention punishment. I refer to it as parenting because that's what it is.

Comments

Unhappy's picture

Lol. Now that's funny. He's actually a sweet child for the most part. He was so made at me yesterday when I drove him home that he wanted to call me a b!tich. He knew that he would have to hold vinegar in his mouth for a couple of seconds for doing so he just yelled, "I really want to call you the b word right now." That was a boundary that he knew better then to cross.

SS is actually a very shy kid. His teacher is completely shocked that he acts this way. Apparently he's one of her favorite students.

Unhappy's picture

The things that set SS off when he has a temper tantrums when he's with us are usually him not getting his way or being punished. They aren't frequent like everyday but they are extreme enough to where he's violently attacking something or destroying something.

The only time we have had problems on our week with SS going to school is on Mondays when BM drops him off. Other then that there are no problems. She on the other hand is starting to have multiple outbursts a week. I think this is do to him being able to get away with the behavior. She has created a monster with her parenting and there's nothing that DH can do about it if she won't listen. Even his teacher thought that the trade off on Sunday nights would be a good thing to try and she also thought that having daycare drop SS off instead of her was a good idea too. BM is the only one in the picture that seems to think that it's a good idea for her to still keep dropping SS off at school when there's a really high chance at this point that he won't go and will freak out.

All we can do it try with SS. We don't deal with this behavior unless BM is somehow involved. The only saving grace in this whole thing is that she doesn't have a choice in regards to the Sunday night swap. If she refuses then DH will have grounds for contempt.

Unhappy's picture

And I agree with you Ripley. You know my story from day one so you know how nuts BM is. I'm just used to a completely different type of parenting. I started young with my BD. She's allowed to have as much freedom as she wants as long as she follows the rules and stays inside of the boundaries that I have put in place. She knows this and that's why I hardly ever have any problems with her. Yes she has her occassional melt downs, doesn't like to share, and whines but she's a good kid because I put the time and effort into it. I don't make excuses for her. I know that her father abandoned her for a life of partying but I will not allow her to use that as a crutch.

Yes the punishment yesterday was extreme for SS. But his violent outburst could have killed us and is not acceptable. He needs to be tought the right tools on how to act and react when he is angry.

oneoffour's picture

If all you are saying is true (and I have no reason to imagine otherwise) WTH is going on at BMs place that this behaviour happens? If the school have seen his absolute meltdowns then surely they are mandated to address his extreme behavioural issues. If this boy can calmly toddle off to school with a little whining and crabbing and posturing that he doesn't want to go when he is with you then what is causing him to absolutely behave in this manner?

It just seems very odd and I wonder what is going on at his mother's place?

I would certainly get him into counselling at least to jump start his behaviour modification. He can be given all the free rein in the world but if he is so happy in class why would he not want to go? I could understand it if he hated school but if his teacher says he is happy there why doesn't he go? See to me that is the misfitting piece in the puzzle.

Something else is going on. Either BM is feeding him some horror story or he is watching something inappropriate or ... I don't know.

I agree with sticking to the CO and SS comes to Dads on Sundays. This give him 12 hrs to adjust. I would certainly get him to a counsellor though. It may not be all adult status. He just may be being molested.

Unhappy's picture

I don't think that he's being molested. I've wondered recently if BM has been pulling her PAS crap that she pulled with SD when she was 5. I can see this making SS freak out. You know the, "now it's daddy's turn to have you for the week and you know mommy will be really sad and it makes mommy cry and I miss you so much." This type of BS can cause negative stuff on her week if she even drops SS off at school not just on our Monday because SS doesn't want mommy to be sad and cry if he isn't there. This to me makes since and I wouldn't put it past her.

SS had a freak out, I want to say about four to six weeks ago, where he was screaming for his mother and screaming at DH telling him that he doesn't love him anymore, he doesn't want to live with him anymore, and that he wants to live with BM. These things that he was screaming was so out of character for SS. He loves DH. DH has always been his favorite so to see SS treat him this way all of a sudden got me thinking that maybe BM is pulling her sh!t with SS. He was to little to care when she did it with SD, I don't doubt she tried though. Now he can start to grasp the magnitude of the BS that BM is spoon feeding him and believe it.

The things she used to say to SD were:

Mommy and daddy are going to get married again.
Mommy's really sad that mommy and daddy aren't married anymore.
If Unhappy and daddy aren't getting along mommy and daddy are going to get married again.
Daddy wanted the divorce. (which BTW is BS.)
Daddy is the person who destroyed your family. (BS again.)
And the most recent: Mommy said that I have to bring my phone with me (we've told BM we don't want it at the house because everytime SD talks to her she ends up bawling and it takes us forever to get her calmed down which takes away from DH's parenting time with her) because she wants to call me all of the time and she said that if she tries to call daddy's phone to talk to me daddy won't answer. (Now this is true to a certain extent. DH won't answer her call but he has told BM that all she has to do it text him and he will have the kids call her.)

This caused so much tension between DH and SD because SD blammed him for everything. Now it seems like SS is starting to pull the same crap. I've told DH what I think and that he maybe needs to ask SD if anything is being said to SS (in a very innocent way so as not to put SD in the middle) but he hasn't yet.